I hope you're not trying to suggest that his esophogeal cancer was a result of "hate".
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Atheism
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monta
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Wilfully embracing the illogical aspects of the human condition is not something I would be proud of. Biases maybe inevitable but acting on a conscious bias is a choice. Can you explain how your position is different to me saying that I hate you because I have homophobia?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
The human condition is not logical to begin with, because human beings are not logical.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Strength in the face of superstition and the lingering on tradition instead of going forward.
Diederick
Active Member
And how would you explain that position? Human beings are perfectly logical, all they are and do is the result of a logical cause. Little mystery in that.
And for the actual thread: Atheism brings a rational and scientific approach to the problems of the world, posing a real solution.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Is this sarcasm? I can't tell.
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Heh... In my experience people don't want a life of complete freedom.
Oh, they want to influence their lives somewhat, and they will -tell- you that they want freedom, but when it comes down to it, most people like some confinement, and they like for someone else to take charge and lead.
For some people freedom is a terrifying concept because if things go wrong they'll have no-one else to blame but themselves...
Sorry.
ButTheCatCameBack
Active Member
By this conception of angry, EVERYONE is angry. People have a right to be civic individuals and help do things like vote in people who mirror their values and vote for policies they like and against those they don't like. Angry does not equal bad. Anecdotal most of the atheists I know are the, I don't talk about it much, I just don't believe in any Gods and go about my life types.
ButTheCatCameBack
Active Member
Obviously indulgences are all an application of hate. /sarcasm.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Why would such an intelligent man destroy his health like that? Knowingly and willingly? And then call it "living life on one's own terms." My guess is he is on the final descent of a kamikaze mission. The kids who idolize him these days have some who makes smoking and drinking look cool.
monta
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I don't believe so, because we must be logical in order to have a perception of logic. Both the concepts of the existence of a god and the non existence of a god are born from logic.
ButTheCatCameBack
Active Member
Why would such an intelligent man destroy his health like that? Knowingly and willingly? And then call it "living life on one's own terms." My guess is he is on the final descent of a kamikaze mission. The kids who idolize him these days have some who makes smoking and drinking look cool.
Right because indulging in vices draws a direct line to one having a constant emotional state of unmitigated hate and anger. To quote South Park Johnny Cochran. "That does not...make....sense!" And frankly people can idolize people for all sorts of silly reasons. This does not characterize all admiration for an individual as based in their personal choices to indulge in smoking, excessive drinking or any other activity. It's even MORE dumb to think that the health issues that have resulted from it are a result of an emotional state or the like instead of what ACTUALLY CAUSED THE HEALTH ISSUE.
/facepalm infreakindeed.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Can you re-word those two sentences? This is very awkward.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Johnny Cochran? Johnny Cochran helped a murderer go free.
monta
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I don't understand what you mean by '' This is very awkward'' can you expand?
Diederick
Active Member
Not sarcasm. Fields of science studying the human being like neurology, agogy and psychology are explicitly concerned with the logical functions of human beings. There's nothing mysterious about mankind anymore.Is this sarcasm? I can't tell.
He knows smoking and consuming alcohol is bad and never promoted them as being 'cool'. Besides, what does this have to do with his atheism? Or anti-theism as he'd rather call his position.Why would such an intelligent man destroy his health like that? Knowingly and willingly? And then call it "living life on one's own terms." My guess is he is on the final descent of a kamikaze mission. The kids who idolize him these days have some who makes smoking and drinking look cool.
And that is a valid counter-argument because...
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Yes, but not the Southpark caricature of him, which was what he quoted. How is it relevant anyway?
linwood
Well-Known Member
Autodidact
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Why would such an intelligent man destroy his health like that? Knowingly and willingly? And then call it "living life on one's own terms." My guess is he is on the final descent of a kamikaze mission. The kids who idolize him these days have some who makes smoking and drinking look cool.
Are you implying there is some connection between being an atheist and smoking?!?
monta
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Tobacco lobbiests, is there not limit to their devotion to finding the ''real'' cause for so called ''smoker related cancers''