Atheist trying to convert Theist!

[Gloone]

I have noticed lately that a lot of the atheist on this forum board try to convert theist over to atheism. Usually it is the other way around and atheist are accusing the theist of converting the atheist into believing something other than the typical nonsense that gets spewed across the forums.

- So my question to atheist is why do you insist on converting good religious people over with your demonic style tactics?

Edit: Never mind anything from this OP. I have learned through this thread that atheist can be free loving spirits despite the circumstances. They want what is best for all of us.

 

[Father Heathen]

Cite an example.

 

[Gloone]

Cite an example.

I don't site examples. I am not the kind of person that puts people in the spot light. You can either take my word for it or you can just forget this thread ever existed.

 

[outhouse]

I dont think there trying to convert you.

when one starts stateing beliefs or drawing lines in the sand its easy to refute it.

 

[Penumbra]

This is the religious debate section. So, not surprisingly, religion is debated.

I attempt to understand other worldviews and to shed light on things that I see as problems or holes in those worldviews. It's not so much an attempt to convert one to atheism as it is an attempt to challenge the correctness of what they present as truth. And of course it goes the other way around and then can attempt to refute what I have to say.

When it comes to people with fairly unattractive and unethical worldviews, yes, I would prefer it if those views weren't around anymore and people took up better ones. I find demonstrating the logical and moral shortcomings of such viewpoints to be important.

When it comes to people that have what appears to be a fairly ethical and thoughtful worldview, that as far as I can tell won't do society any harm, I don't particularly care one way or another that they hold it. But for the sake of intelligent discourse, I challenge it and I welcome them to challenge mine.

 

[ellenjanuary]

I'm too intelligent to become an atheist.

 

[Meow Mix]

I'm too intelligent to become an atheist.

:sarcastic

Mmhmm

 

[Dan4reason]

I have noticed lately that a lot of the atheist on this forum board try to convert theist over to atheism. Usually it is the other way around and atheist are accusing the theist of converting the atheist into believing something other than the typical nonsense that gets spewed across the forums.

- So my question to atheist is why do you insist on converting good religious people over with your demonic style tactics?

Isn't that the whole point with debates? To get the other person to think like you?

 

[Gloone]

Isn't that the whole point with debates? To get the other person to think like you?

No debate is not about converting people. It is about expressing a point of view.

 

[Twilight Hue]

There is absolutely no such thing as a conversion to Atheism.

Theism is disputed in light that extraordinary and at times ridiculous claims are consistently being presented by theists to where the burden of proof is thereby challenged.

Atheists are actually in what could arguably be called the default position. Realists. To put it bluntly, all humans are born atheist at the start.

Believe it or not.

 

[Dan4reason]

No debate is not about converting people. It is about expressing a point of view.

If debate is about expressing then it is a waste. Useful debate is not just arguements and rhetoric and actually convinces people.

 

[Gloone]

If debate is about expressing then it is a waste. Useful debate is not just arguements and rhetoric and actually convinces people.

If you don't express yourself then how are you making a logical argument?

 

[aindiachai]

- So my question to atheist is why do you insist on emancipating religious people with your reason, empiricism, and logical argument style tactics?

FTFY

I would say because religion is inherently dangerous.

 

[Dan4reason]

If you don't express yourself then how are you making a logical argument?

When you debate you do not express yourself, you express what you think to be true. Making debate simply expressing yourself attaches yourself too much to the topic you are debating.

 

[Gloone]

FTFY

I would say because religion is inherently dangerous.

According to whom?

 

[Gloone]

When you debate you do not express yourself, you express what you think to be true. Making debate simply expressing yourself attaches yourself too much to the topic you are debating.

Well if you are trying to get your point across how else are you suppose to do it, if you don't say what you feel to be correct?

 

[aindiachai]

According to whom?

To any unbiased student of history. Believing things for which there is no evidence, and in the case of the Abrahamic religions evidence against, is dangerous.

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't site examples. I am not the kind of person that puts people in the spot light. You can either take my word for it or you can just forget this thread ever existed.

Criticizing and scrutinizing irrational and unsubstantiated beliefs is in no way the same thing as proselytizing.
Also, ridiculing some of the ways people portray the idea of god and ridiculing some of things people attribute to the idea of god is not the same as ridiculing the idea of god itself.

 

[Gloone]

To any unbiased student of history. Believing things for which there is no evidence, and in the case of the Abrahamic religions evidence against, is dangerous.

Does that automatically qualify you as an atheist or do you feel you have to live up or meet that standard?

 

[Riverwolf]

I've not seen any real attempts to convert theists to atheism. I've seen plenty of ideas held by theists disputed and debated, sometimes rather harshly, but that's to be expected on a debate-based forum.

You present an argument, others present either opposing arguments or supporting ideas. That's the whole point of a debate. Sometimes the arguments presented by atheists here may end up changing a theist into an atheist, but that's not necessarily deliberate. In fact, such an attempt would be against the rules.