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Atheistic Religions

Orias

Left Hand Path
No, I am thinking of atheism, since all of these descriptions ultimately encompass "atheism", for a lack of a better term.

Non-theism is not a denomination of atheism, it is a separate category, and can be just as broad and is less likely to be understood by the general population.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
No, I am thinking of atheism, since all of these descriptions ultimately encompass "atheism", for a lack of a better term.

Non-theism is not a denomination of atheism, it is a separate category, and can be just as broad and is less likely to be understood by the general population.

What about the wikipedia articles I've shown you?
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
What about the wikipedia articles I've shown you?


They are One's I have gone over numerous times.

Lets not forget, wikipedia can be changed by anyone at any moment.

I don't know if you've gone over the threads I created and participated in covering these topics, but the two are very easily confused and can be misidentified as being the "same", but they are not.
 

Tathagata

Freethinker
The last time I reviewed the word 'religion'....
it more than implied ...a belief in a supreme being.

Religion is what you do about your belief in a supreme being....your practice.

'Atheistic religion' is therefore a contradiction in terms.

Anyone care to draw some lines here?

Religion does NOT require belief in a Supreme Being or God. Just go to Dictionary.com or Wiki to see for yourself.


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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
What are some other atheistic religions like Confucianism, Taoism, Stoicism, Buddhism, etc.

I like those religions, right now I'm seeking for something kind of metaphysical and philosophical, but atheistic or pantheistic.
Some forms of Christianity.

For instance: Nontheist Friends: Quaker atheists, agnostics, humanists, and others who practice Quakerism without supernatural beliefs

The last time I reviewed the word 'religion'....
it more than implied ...a belief in a supreme being.

Religion is what you do about your belief in a supreme being....your practice.

'Atheistic religion' is therefore a contradiction in terms.

Anyone care to draw some lines here?
No - a religion is a community of shared belief, usually centred on the supernatural, and usually involving ritual of some form. That doesn't necessarily have to include belief in a supreme being.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Some forms of Christianity.

For instance: Nontheist Friends: Quaker atheists, agnostics, humanists, and others who practice Quakerism without supernatural beliefs


No - a religion is a community of shared belief, usually centred on the supernatural, and usually involving ritual of some form. That doesn't necessarily have to include belief in a supreme being.

Have Webster's...have definition....

My copy states.....
1) the personal commitment to and serving God or a god with worshipful devotion, conduct in accord with divine commands esp. as found in accepted sacred writings or declared by authoritative teachers, a way of life as incumbent on true believers, and typically the relating of oneself to an organized body of believers.

The rest of the definitions are similar....of course.

So you can be religious without a God?...or god?

Supreme being would be 'Something' greater than yourself?

I see a difference between social or mutual respect....as compared to believing and worshiping a greater 'Self'.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Have Webster's...have definition....

My copy states.....
1) the personal commitment to and serving God or a god with worshipful devotion, conduct in accord with divine commands esp. as found in accepted sacred writings or declared by authoritative teachers, a way of life as incumbent on true believers, and typically the relating of oneself to an organized body of believers.

The rest of the definitions are similar....of course.

So you can be religious without a God?...or god?

Supreme being would be 'Something' greater than yourself?

I see a difference between social or mutual respect....as compared to believing and worshiping a greater 'Self'.

Strange that your copy of Webster's dictionary would be so different from the online one:

1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
Merriam-Webster Search for iPhone

Note where it says "God or the supernatural".
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Strange that your copy of Webster's dictionary would be so different from the online one:


Merriam-Webster Search for iPhone

Note where it says "God or the supernatural".

Supernatural....as in greater than you?
Supernatural...is in spiritual?

Religion is what you do....about what you believe.

If you believe in something greater than yourself.....
that belief system will include some hierarchy....and an Almighty....
a supreme being.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
Supernatural....as in greater than you?
Supernatural...is in spiritual?

Religion is what you do....about what you believe.

If you believe in something greater than yourself.....
that belief system will include some hierarchy....and an Almighty....
a supreme being.

You're saying atheists don't believe in the Sun for it is greater than ourselves?

You're saying atheists don't believe in rulers?
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
If you believe in something greater than yourself.....
that belief system will include some hierarchy....and an Almighty....
a supreme being.

Why does it require an almighty or a supreme being?
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
There is always one up.....until you reach the top.

If you belief in spiritual life at all.....
One up...then again....then again.....

Then the Almighty.

The almighty doesn't have to be a god...

Obviously, there are things higher than us, such as the Sun, so are you saying there has to be a God now?
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
The almighty doesn't have to be a god...

Obviously, there are things higher than us, such as the Sun, so are you saying there has to be a God now?


I think you may be misunderstanding a little bit...

First of all, the Sun only looks higher than us, but it is mathematically incorrect to say it is, because the Universe is essentially a 3d projection of a 2d image.

By saying that One is or believes in spiritual essence, that One is essentially part of the "One up" or the "Almighty".

This is not to say that there is, or has to be a "God", just that with spirituality and even non-spirituality there is a certain invocation that allows us to perceive and comprehend something beyond us.

Since that is what "God" literally means, to invoke.


 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Supernatural....as in greater than you?
Supernatural...is in spiritual?
You're playing a game. I'm sure you know perfectly well what the word "supernatural" means.

Religion is what you do....about what you believe.

If you believe in something greater than yourself.....
that belief system will include some hierarchy....and an Almighty....
a supreme being.
Again, you're playing a game. I'm sure you know perfectly well that a hierarchy doesn't necessarily imply a god at the top of it.
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
Again, you're playing a game. I'm sure you know perfectly well that a hierarchy doesn't necessarily imply a god at the top of it.

Nor does Almighty or supreme being imply that he saying a "God" is on top of it, just that a hierarchy involves something greater than a subsequent order.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
You're playing a game. I'm sure you know perfectly well what the word "supernatural" means.


Again, you're playing a game. I'm sure you know perfectly well that a hierarchy doesn't necessarily imply a god at the top of it.

'super'latives confuse you?

I'm not joking.
If you believe in spiritual life.....Someone is at the top.
 
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