Atheists are in fact Creationists

[Valjean]

Assuming you are referring to so-called macro-evolution, no, it is not.

Oh geez, here we go again.
How does accumulated micro-evolution not become macro? How does micro evolution know when to stop, so as to avoid becoming macro evolution?

 

[rusra02]

It only holds "untrue" to those who deliberately refuse to examine evidence and apply logic. Why so adamant about blindly adhering to a literal interpretation of the ancient mythology of dead goat herders? God isn't bound, restricted, or reduced by the superstition and ignorance of primitive savages. He is well above and beyond your book.

Obviously, I do not share your view of the Bible. Nor do millions of others who have found the answers to questions the ToE has not been able to answer. Where did life on earth originate and what is life's purpose, among others. What you sneer at is a book compiled over some 1,500 years by some 40 different writers and completed 2,000 ago. Yet the Bible is the world's all time best seller, and is available in more languages than any other publication. I believe it reliably reports historical events and accurately foretells future events. the Bible reveals the mind of Jehovah, the only true God, who is the Bible's true Author, not ancient goat herders. (2 Timothy 3:16,17)
As for the ToE, Each person is free to peer past the propaganda and bluster of evolutionists and examine the evidence for themselves. Many who have done this have found the ToE falls flat.

 

[LuisDantas]

That many people are in denial about the reality of biologica evolution does not make it any less true.

 

[Poeticus]

That many people are in denial about the reality of biologica evolution does not make it any less true.

Namaste,

I thought evolution was fact; that it was provable and that it has been proved...right?

M.V.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

Assuming you are referring to so-called macro-evolution, no, it is not.

Considering that "macro-evolution" is the culmination of years of micro-evolution...sure. How would you explain why humans have a tail bone? Or why whale fins have bones? Or why bats do not have the same type of wings as birds? Or that pythons have limb like structures in their bodies?

I do hope when you're sick you refuse all modern medicinal treatment.

 

[LuisDantas]

Namaste,

I thought evolution was fact; that it was provable and that it has been proved...right?

M.V.

In science there is no proof as such. But evolution is indeed as close to proven as it can be.

It is a shame that so many people are so insecure of their faiths that they spend lots of energy attempting to prove the water dry.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

Obviously, I do not share your view of the Bible. Nor do millions of others who have found the answers to questions the ToE has not been able to answer. Where did life on earth originate and what is life's purpose, among others. What you sneer at is a book compiled over some 1,500 years by some 40 different writers and completed 2,000 ago. Yet the Bible is the world's all time best seller, and is available in more languages than any other publication. I believe it reliably reports historical events and accurately foretells future events. the Bible reveals the mind of Jehovah, the only true God, who is the Bible's true Author, not ancient goat herders. (2 Timothy 3:16,17)
As for the ToE, Each person is free to peer past the propaganda and bluster of evolutionists and examine the evidence for themselves. Many who have done this have found the ToE falls flat.

That's abiogenesis you just described not evolution. Mind you they have been able to recreate the conditions of primordial earth in the lab and have formed amino acids in that process.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

:thud: How can he be an atheist!
All atheist are amoral drunkards who do drugs and believe in evolution.

I plead the Fifth... :run:

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

That's abiogenesis you just described not evolution. Mind you they have been able to recreate the conditions of primordial earth in the lab and have formed amino acids in that process.

Dr. Fox! I learned about that in the 6th grade lol

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

Obviously, I do not share your view of the Bible. Nor do millions of others who have found the answers to questions the ToE has not been able to answer. Where did life on earth originate and what is life's purpose, among others. What you sneer at is a book compiled over some 1,500 years by some 40 different writers and completed 2,000 ago. Yet the Bible is the world's all time best seller, and is available in more languages than any other publication. I believe it reliably reports historical events and accurately foretells future events. the Bible reveals the mind of Jehovah, the only true God, who is the Bible's true Author, not ancient goat herders. (2 Timothy 3:16,17)
As for the ToE, Each person is free to peer past the propaganda and bluster of evolutionists and examine the evidence for themselves. Many who have done this have found the ToE falls flat.

How do you know it accurately foretells future events if future events haven't happened yet?

Also, predicting the future isn't that hard; watch me:
There will be a war.
People will die.
A new city will be built.
There will be new governments and rulers.
People will doubt things they've been told.
Children will be born.

Am I a prophet now?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

How do you know it accurately foretells future events if future events haven't happened yet?

Also, predicting the future isn't that hard; watch me:
There will be a war.
People will die.
A new city will be built.
There will be new governments and rulers.
People will doubt things they've been told.
Children will be born.

Am I a prophet now?

*nails I.S.L.A.M617 to a cross*

Ya kinda asked for that...

 

[rusra02]

*nails I.S.L.A.M617 to a cross*

Ya kinda asked for that...

How do you know it accurately foretells future events if future events haven't happened yet?

Also, predicting the future isn't that hard; watch me:
There will be a war.
People will die.
A new city will be built.
There will be new governments and rulers.
People will doubt things they've been told.
Children will be born.

Am I a prophet now?

The Bible accurately foretold events that have already occurred and are part of history. One example is the fall of Babylon, when it would occur, and the name of the man who would conquer the city. Did I mention this prophecy was recorded almost 200 years before the events predicted occurred, and long before the conqueror of Babylon was born? Many similar prophecies are in the Bible. Only almighty God can accurately foretell the future in this way, IMO. (Isaiah 46:8-10)

 

[rusra02]

That's abiogenesis you just described not evolution. Mind you they have been able to recreate the conditions of primordial earth in the lab and have formed amino acids in that process.

The ToE cannot answer the fundamental question of how life "evolved" from lifeless matter, so they choose to ignore the question.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

The ToE cannot answer the fundamental question of how life "evolved" from lifeless matter, so they choose to ignore the question.

Still Abiogensis...still not evolution.

[From Wikipedia]Evolution is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins[/From Wikipedia]

 

[Ouroboros]

We don't have to explain how "lifeless" matter comes into being "alive" since that is happening on a continuous basis in our daily life. We consist of "dead" matter. The DNA is expressed in atoms. The cells consist of atoms. All that we see consist of energy, atoms, space, light, time, this, the nature, the things we have and see here right now, the "dead" world is alive and becomes alive constantly. There's no "dead" coming "alive". It's all alive to different degrees.

 

[Enai de a lukal]

The ToE cannot answer the fundamental question of how life "evolved" from lifeless matter, so they choose to ignore the question.

No, that particular question falls outside of the scope of the theory. The theory of gravity doesn't tell us how molecules exchange atoms, and evolution- a theory explaining the diversity of organic life, not its origin- doesn't tell us how life originated, because these topics simply are not what the theories were created to explain.

Thus, this common canard is irrelevant. Evolution doesn't explain the origin of life because it isn't supposed to.

 

[rusra02]

We don't have to explain how "lifeless" matter comes into being "alive" since that is happening on a continuous basis in our daily life. We consist of "dead" matter. The DNA is expressed in atoms. The cells consist of atoms. All that we see consist of energy, atoms, space, light, time, this, the nature, the things we have and see here right now, the "dead" world is alive and becomes alive constantly. There's no "dead" coming "alive". It's all alive to different degrees.

Really? Then it should be easy to stir up a little life from almost-alive matter. The fact is, this cannot be done by the most brilliant human minds. Only God's mind can do it.

 

[rusra02]

No, that particular question falls outside of the scope of the theory. The theory of gravity doesn't tell us how molecules exchange atoms, and evolution- a theory explaining the diversity of organic life, not its origin- doesn't tell us how life originated, because these topics simply are not what the theories were created to explain.

Thus, this common canard is irrelevant. Evolution doesn't explain the origin of life because it isn't supposed to.

Of course, a theory about the diversity of life is not concerned with how this diverse life originated. I personally don't buy that explanation. The Theory of Evolution is a building without a foundation.

 

[Falvlun]

Of course, a theory about the diversity of life is not concerned with how this diverse life originated. I personally don't buy that explanation. The Theory of Evolution is a building without a foundation.

I wonder if you hold the theory of gravitation in similar disdain. Seeing as it doesn't account for the origin of the universe and all.

 

[Enai de a lukal]

Of course, a theory about the diversity of life is not concerned with how this diverse life originated. I personally don't buy that explanation.

It doesn't matter if you "buy it" or not, that's simply a fact. Evolution is a theory concerning the origin of species (the title of Darwin's book); in other words, the origin of different forms of biological life.

Evolution answers the question of why there are different types of organisms. Demanding it ALSO explain the origin of all life, which it was never intended to do, is like demanding that the theory of gravity also explain the interaction of sub-atomic particles, or the movement of tectonic plates.

In other words, this is a ridiculous and irrelevant demand.

The Theory of Evolution is a building without a foundation.

LOL... riiiiiight.