Atheists believe in miracles more than believers

[John53]

I'm not sure myself and sort of curious where this is going.

How was the taco soup?

It was good

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It was good

You can grow chili peppers in Australia, but commercial production is pretty slim at about 2,000 tons. I'm sort of interested to know if there is a market for Mexican food in Australia.

 

[John53]

That sounds like an opportunity and the basis for a burgeoning business. You could be the Australian king of Mexican food.

Most Australians are happy with the Old El Paso range in the supermarket I think. Not sure there would be much demand and it sounds like a lot of effort.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It was good

It looked really good.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Most Australians are happy with the Old El Paso range in the supermarket I think. Not sure there would be much demand and it sounds like a lot of effort.

It's a thought. Need some place to bury my many millions of...wishful dreams.

 

[Pogo]

Because that is not what I am asking. I'm asking what you think about the first cell, living that is. It certainly can be-seems to be-connected with abiogenesis, but I'm not asking about abiogenesis.

Well then you need more definition, cell generally refers to the lipid layer on the outside that contains something, these are naturally occurring similar to oil droplets in water. They might contain replicating structures which might or might not be considered alive. Ultimately the question is too general for an answer other than it is part of the progression of early life on earth.
Here we have even less than the fossils you find so inadequate so there really isn't even a point in discussing the topic as you will never be satisfied.

 

[John53]

It looked really good.

The only problem is I discovered the masa harina I used has a best before date of August 2021. Been almost 24 hours since we ate it and we haven't died so hopefully that's a good thing. I've fired off a scathing email to the supplier I got it from.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I'd suggest this thread;

Ancient Reality

A response to this statement in another thread wouldn't be appropriate there. Proof isn’t evidence. You keep getting hung up in semantics. Semantics is one of the chief ways we use to create our circular arguments and some use it to demolish other arguments. But semantics isn't real, it's...

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There is no writing recorded from the age in which the great pyramids were built. The little does exist is highly fragmentary and Sumerian. But right after this era there exists very ancient Egyptian writing from the great pyramid building age and even older.

The Pyramid Texts: The Pyramid Texts: 30. Resurrection, Meal, and Ascension of the Deceased King, Utterance 553

The Pyramid Texts, Samuel A.B. Mercer tr., at sacred-texts.com

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This is far and away the oldest corpus of writing in existence. That the "Egyptians" built the pyramids is a virtual certainty but if I'm right they weren't even the same species. They were wise and we are omniscient.

I find this last line interesting. What would make you think that humans of the ancient Egyptian variety were a different species. In a related questions, if you don't believe in species, why would you bother to claim that ancient Egyptians were a different species. That doesn't make any sense and contradicts the claim of disbelief in species.

I encourage you to read some general texts in biology and learn the facts about the things you believe. If you went into the reading with an open mind, I am certain you will be surprised what you find. And it would help you understand these debates and discussions.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The only problem is I discovered the masa harina I used has a best before date of August 2021. Been almost 24 hours since we ate it and we haven't died so hopefully that's a good thing. I've fired off a scathing email to the supplier I got it from.

It's a dry ingredient isn't it? Cornmeal I thought.

 

[John53]

It's a dry ingredient isn't it?

Corn meal I think or corn flour

 

[YoursTrue]

Well then you need more definition, cell generally refers to the lipid layer on the outside that contains something, these are naturally occurring similar to oil droplets in water. They might contain replicating structures which might or might not be considered alive. Ultimately the question is too general for an answer other than it is part of the progression of early life on earth.
Here we have even less than the fossils you find so inadequate so there really isn't even a point in discussing the topic as you will never be satisfied.

So, in essence, would you agree then that no human really knows in physical terms how it (cell, cells, and life within those first cells). came about, theoretically allowing the process of evolution to make its way to life's present forms. Or previous forms.

 

[Pogo]

Reviewing your post, John53, I often wonder how people think Moses knew that life began on this earth. For instance -- discerning life around us before there were instruments capable of detecting age in fossils and other elements, we see earth, soil, rocks, animals, vegetables, stars, etc, many might wonder how did it all get here? They might also think maybe green grass, etc., animals, were always here.

You might think that but it is ultimately a guess without any reason behind it.
You would also need to demonstrate that Moses existed and or knew anything.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Corn meal I think or corn flour

I'd fire off an email too. You should get a refund. Expired flour might impact the taste, but isn't likely to cause harm.

 

[YoursTrue]

You might think that but it is ultimately a guess without any reason behind it.
You would also need to demonstrate that Moses existed and or knew anything.

No, I don't need to demonstrate that Moses existed because I am \saying that many years ago a person named Moses wrote that first there was water on the earth, then plants, and then animals.

 

[Pogo]

Corn meal I think or corn flour

Ground dried corn cooked in lime water and then dried again, many grades. May have a government or advertising expiration date, but if no bugs in it then it is fine.
If the bugs get it, the protein value goes up, but the usability goes down.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Corn meal I think or corn flour

Yes. You are correct. A corn flour.

 

[John53]

No, I don't need to demonstrate that Moses existed because I am \saying that many years ago a person named Moses wrote that first there was water on the earth, then plants, and then animals.

Are you going to answer my question? What is a first cell?

 

[Pogo]

So, in essence, would you agree then that no human really knows in physical terms how it (cell, cells, and life within those first cells). came about, theoretically allowing the process of evolution to make its way to life's present forms. Or previous forms.

As you and @leroy have been told innumerable times, no we don't have the video but we know start and endpoints and in this case with some more study we can assemble a pyramid. Your complaint that we don't have the video has to be contrasted with your explanation of Poof the Magic dragon dunnit. We know far more than you do if going by mechanistical information. Motes and Beams?

 

[Pogo]

I'd fire off an email too. You should get a refund. Expired flour might impact the taste, but isn't likely to cause harm.

If your town is small enough that it has passed its sell by date, you should be glad they have it at all.
Need a cornbred and chitlins hoedown.

 

[Pogo]

No, I don't need to demonstrate that Moses existed because I am \saying that many years ago a person named Moses wrote that first there was water on the earth, then plants, and then animals.

Yup you are saying, but so what. I can say I went to the moon last week.