They certainly are. Therefore?
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Atheists: Does Evolution Disprove the Existence of God?
- Thread starter Kilgore Trout
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Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Therefore the post that asserted they're not is mistaken, and any conclusions to be drawn from that assertion--whatever that post might be driving at re: God--are equally erroneous.
MSizer
MSizer
Therefore it's my opinion that A_E should have a second look at why he thinks they're not, as it's my opinion he's incorrect on that point. That's about all. Enough granularity?
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Then perhaps the answer to the question posed in the OP is:
Given the evolutionary history of life on earth, you either end up with an incompetent, bumbling, uncaring, cruel, and horribly wasteful god....or no god at all.
"It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure." -- Albert Einstein
There is a myth that to measure something is to understand it. I can use neuroscience to quantify various responses to Bach, but that does not explain art appreciation.
There is a myth that to measure something is to understand it. I can use neuroscience to quantify various responses to Bach, but that does not explain art appreciation.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Or a magnificent but unknowable Deist God. This God, while completely speculative and not accessible to us, would be a bajillion times cooler, more powerful and complete than the tinkering magician of YEC.
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Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
That's right. You can study it scientifically, but that's not the same as being moved by it.
... or grateful for the capacity to be moved by it.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
I suppose, but in my mind "unknowable" is functionally the same as "nonexistent".
MSizer
MSizer
Uh oh, you've just shouted "open season on me" to debaters who like to use word games. enjoy 8^)
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Me too. That's why I'm a strong atheist.
Alceste
Vagabond
Well hallelujah - I agree with Jay on something. I've just been reading about the history of anthropology and some of the ridiculous notions scientists had about phrenology - that by measuring the dimensions of a skull, and describing indigenous penises and breasts in excruciating detail they could learn about a people's proper place in the evolutionary continuum (the pinnacle of which was - surprise! - the upper class Victorian gentleman scientist). IMO, measuring stuff is only as meritous as the aims of the relevant field of study.
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tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
gnostic
The Lost One
I'd have to say "no".
Darwin's Evolution make no claim that God exist or not.
What the evidences support with regards to evolution are that humans have existed far longer than the Genesis of around 6000 years.
But then again, Darwin never claimed to be atheist. He was like his friend, Huxley, an agnostic.
Darwin's Evolution make no claim that God exist or not.
What the evidences support with regards to evolution are that humans have existed far longer than the Genesis of around 6000 years.
alceste said:
But then again, Darwin never claimed to be atheist. He was like his friend, Huxley, an agnostic.
logician
Well-Known Member
Disproving certain well-defined god concepts can be done, however.
linwood
Well-Known Member
Exactly what I was thinking.
Hitchey
Member
Personally I have never argued that evolution disproves God, infact I have frequently argued with Creationists that one can accept evolution and believe in God.