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I think that means that if one has a belief that's unfalsifiable that one has no means of determining whether one is
It means that if you accept unfalsifiable beliefs that there is no way for you to distinguish which you are doing good or perpetuating dastardly deeds. Everyone thinks they are the good guy. Even the Manson family killers.
But why do Christians and Muslims reject Baha'u'llah? For Baha'is, he completes the jigsaw. The Baha'is say they have proof/evidence. Have you looked at it? If so, why don't you believe it? And if you do, and I think you've already said that you reject it, it is probably because of very similar reasons that Atheists reject the Baha'i Faith. They just carry that same reasoning and apply it to Islam, Christianity and other religions that claim God to be real.I was a child. I didn't even know what "cognitive and behavioral sciences" were.
Initially, I didn't know anything else.
Then, as I say, I was well educated in the Bible at school.
That was followed by a careless teenage period where I didn't stop believing in G-d, but had no particular creed.
In my early twenties, I discovered the Qur'an.
I've never looked back. It all fits neatly together and completes the theological jigsaw puzzle.
Really? So children should be allowed to vote and adults banned. Children should decide civil rights and the law, yes? Of course, they'd have little time between playground and school, so...
Why is this even relevant? You thought this up?
A religious school will likely have heavy ideological indoctrination. Is that moral to do to children? Before they have the skill to reason?
Yeah, you do. No person can make a rational judgment without evidence, and facts are the best evidence. If you decide there is some magical cause for existence only because you heard it through gossip, then you aren't rational.
What facts support any religious creed? Name it, and list the facts.
That's one way to never be sure you made a previous mistake.
The verge of hysteria.I admitted no such thing. I make errors as we all do but they are not the errors you think they are.
Why would you be glad if I admitted to making errors? What is it to you?.
You must really like the Hidden Words of Baha'u'llah.
O SON OF MAN! Breathe not the sins of others so long as thou art thyself a sinner. Shouldst thou transgress this command, accursed wouldst thou be, and to this I bear witness.
The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh
Why would it matter what other people think?
No, just something that you do not want to hear, so you call it hysteria.
Try me. Make a case with information suggesting God doesn't exist. I will look at information that questions the existence of God and see if it makes sense to me. I cannot know if it makes sense until I look at it.
I was not a fervent or committed believer back when I hated God, I was a moderate believer. Later, the more fervent and committed I became the less my beliefs have changed.
I did explain why God cannot be encapsulated by human logic.
What reason do you have to think that God is incapable of having any desires? What about my definition of God is internally contradictory?
Of course if I really wanted to believe in God I would not want to find something out that would refute my belief, just as if you did not want to believe in God you would not want to find something out that would refute your disbelief.
Okay. Can you give me an example of a hypothesis that could test for a specifically defined God?
So you think that plenty of people recognize that their beliefs are irrational because they cannot be demonstrated yet they still hold beliefs that they think are irrational?
Perhaps I should have simply said that it makes sense to me. Nothing is logical just because it makes sense to me, but that would apply to anyone. I have heard plenty of atheists saying what I am saying is illogical and they have no basis for saying that. If they caught me committing a logical fallacy I would admit to that but such is not the case.
The human mind (which I believe is associated with the soul) is within the scope of science but the mind is much more than the product of brain activity. Thus far science has not uncovered very little about the workings of the human mind and much work is yet to be done on this front.
If something cannot be observed or studied by scientists, how could it be within the scope of science? Sure, after people die and go to heaven it will be clearly observable by those people.
It is a belief, not an assertion, because I do not assert what I cannot prove. I do not believe that logic can be applied to the Essence of God since it is unknowable. In short, I can offer no explanation of that which is a complete mystery of God. On the other hand, God’s attributes (qualities) can be discussed because they can be known.
Sorry, I would have tried to explain why I cannot explain the Essence of God but it was very late and it was all I could do to finish the post, so I guardedly threw that passage in at the last minute because I was in a rush and it said exactly what I was trying to explain. In short, throughout all of human history not one of the Holy men, Messengers or Prophets has ever grasped the Essence of God despite all their efforts, because it is a complete mystery. Only God knows His Essence.
That's not true.
Our opinions seem to matter a lot to you.
I am not at all sure that most Baha'is would approve of the way you share your opinions.
No one is ‘going after you as a person’, Tb. You are a poster on a discussion forum, as is each person here. You are not your opinions; you are not your beliefs. No one is out to get you.
They / we do point out your errors. Constantly
We are pointing out your faults in the logical reasoning process.
I think many of us DO care about your feelings, Tb. In a sense, we care enough to show you that many of your ‘arguments from logic’ are actually illogical. You continually correct us when we seem to you to be committing a logical fallacy. Is it a one-way thing? If you think it is, why do you think so?
Straw man.
Priceless
All that has been answered. Which means that either you are unable to see the point or avoiding the point.
How does that work?
What have they got to do with the existence of the supernatural?
Indeed. And that is one of the problems with belief.
Mere confirmation bias.
If what you say is true, then it is interesting that those who spend their lives researching and studying the actual mechanisms of how the world and the universe works usually reject that "principle".
Did that happen?Such as?
Do you think that if I asked G-d for £1000 and told nobody else, and I found £1000 under my pillow in the morning, I would have good reason to believe?
Why do apologists imagine that if you reject the objectionable elements of moral codes of the ancient Middle East, you therefore have no moral code at all and consider any and all behaviour acceptable? This is such obvious nonsense that it makes one wonder why people ever mention it. It would suggest a complete inability to construct rational arguments.
Judgment of deeds and belief are two different things. Judgment of deeds depends on the rules of a particular society. Beliefs should be judged on evidence. The evidence that you have provided in these four years is what Bahaollah himself wrote. There is nothing to confirm it with, except his saying that he had a vision of a 'heavenly maiden'.
What about the people that Allah deliberately misguides? The ones whose hearts he seals so they cannot believe, even if they are warned? What about the many people Allah creates for hell?
And interestingly, generally only those who have been brought up to believe that it is true, believe that it is true.
Wait. So you are saying that you were fortunate that god arranged it to have someone well versed in religious beliefs to instruct you in religious belief, otherwise you may not have developed your religious belief?
No, I don't.