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Atheists: If God existed would God……

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
You love to reply with questions, a suspicious person would suspect misdirection.
I ask questions when I don't know what you are talking about.

e.g.,
John 53 said: Free will is the greatest religious get out of jail free card ever. It excuses everything that can't be explained.

Trailblazer said: Who needs to get out of jail? Who needs an excuse? What do they need an excuse for and why?

John53 said: You just used it in what I replied to.

That was a non-answer. Why couldn't you simply give me an answer to my questions?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Now this is a mystery. May be we should call Hercule Poirot or Sherlock Holmes. Bond also will be able to get at the root of this with his rough and tumble tactics.
God does not create it. Humans do not cause it because of their free will. Then who creates it? Satan. But Bahais do not believe in existence of Satan.
Trailblazer, can you kindly unroll the mystery?
Nobody creates cancer. Cancer has many causes. Cancer develops for many different reasons. Sometimes human free will choices are a factor in why it develops. e.g., lung cancer can be traced back to smoking since smoking has been linked to lung cancer. However, people who smoked all their lives might never get lung cancer while another person who never smoked got cancer.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I ask questions when I don't know what you are talking about.

e.g.,
John 53 said: Free will is the greatest religious get out of jail free card ever. It excuses everything that can't be explained.

Trailblazer said: Who needs to get out of jail? Who needs an excuse? What do they need an excuse for and why?

John53 said: You just used it in what I replied to.

That was a non-answer. Why couldn't you simply give me an answer to my questions?

Umm I did, The lack of a question mark at the end of the sentence. You asked "who", I said "you did".
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Umm I did, The lack of a question mark at the end of the sentence. You asked "who", I said "you did".
That is not what you said.
You said: You just used it in what I replied to.

Used what? Who needs to get out of jail?
Is it me who needs to get out of jail? Yes or no.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
That is not what you said.
You said: You just used it in what I replied to.

Used what? Who needs to get out of jail?
Is it me who needs to get out of jail? Yes or no.

The question you asked! You asked "who". I answered "you".

Is "get out of jail free card" not a common saying over there? My American wife uses it so I assume it would be.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
This is a known fact?
It is not a known fact that God even exists, let alone that cancer is a creation of God.

If you want to know what causes cancer ask a scientist who researches cancer and its causes.
Sometimes the causes are genetic and sometimes they are linked to human lifestyles but often the causes are unknown.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
It is not a known fact that God even exists, let alone that cancer is a creation of God.

If you want to know what causes cancer ask a scientist who researches cancer and its causes.
Sometimes the causes are genetic and sometimes they are linked to human lifestyles but often the causes are unknown.

Why can't we ask the person who is claiming their God didn't? Finding a cancer researcher at 5.30am on a Sunday might prove a little difficult for me but the person making the claim is right here.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
The question you asked! You asked "who". I answered "you".

Is "get out of jail free card" not a common saying over there? My American wife uses it so I assume it would be.
Yes, I know what it means.

A get out of jail free card is a metaphorical way to refer to anything that will get someone out of an undesirable situation or allow them to avoid punishment.

Get Out Of Jail Free Card Meaning & Origin - Dictionary.com

Why do I need to get out of jail? What undesirable situation or punishment am I trying to avoid?
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
John53 said: Free will is the greatest religious get out of jail free card ever. It excuses everything that can't be explained.

Trailblazer said: Who needs to get out of jail? Who needs an excuse? What do they need an excuse for and why?
#2758 Trailblazer, Yesterday at 11:03 PM

I thought it was self explanatory. Religions need a "get out of jail free card" for questions that are too difficult. The people making excuses for their God often use "free will" as the "get out of jail free card". In this particular conversation "you" were using it.
 
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