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Atheists: If God existed would God……

Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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Sheldon said:
Those are just subjective unevidenced assertions, you just asserted unequivocally that your deity is in no way demonstrable,
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Those were subjective evidenced beliefs
The Essence of the deity is in no way demonstrable, but the attributes of the deity are seen in the Messengers of the deity, who are Manifestations of the deity.
Sheldon said:
That wasn't your claim though, so again how can you both claim to believe things about those concepts are true, and at the same time claim they are a mystery?
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Simple. We can know from scriptures that they exist but that they are a mystery.
Sheldon said:
Another bar claim, and again it either is a mystery, or you know things about it, it cannot be both.
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It is not black or white. We can know some things but not all things (about God, the soul, and the afterlife).
The nature of God and the nature of the soul and the nature of afterlife are a mystery, but we can know the attributes of God, the function of the soul and some things about the afterlife.
Sheldon said:
I have no idea what this unevidenced claim even means sorry.
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The next world is the World of Lights means that we will know more about all the things we could not know in this world. Iows, we will "see the Light."

I do not think that everyone will see the same Light, it will depend upon what we knew in this life.
The more we knew in this life the more Light we will see.
 
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Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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Policy said:
There isn't a "the" Christian version. So, you know less than you claim and far less than you believe. :)
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I know that there is more than one Christian version of Jesus since the Christian faith is so divided.

When posting to @samtonga43 I was referring to the Trinitarian version of Jesus, since that is the version she believes in.
 
ppp

ppp

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Trailblazer said:
I know that there is more than one Christian version of Jesus since the Christian faith is so divided.

When posting to @samtonga43 I was referring to the Trinitarian version of Jesus, since that is the version she believes in.
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Ah. So you were working under the unfalsifiable hypothesis that that the only option were between her version of the trinitarian Jesus and your version of of the Unitarian whatevs.

Yeah cause that is totally logical. [SARCASM]
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Policy said:
Ah. So you were working under the unfalsifiable hypothesis that that the only option were between her version of the trinitarian Jesus and your version of of the Unitarian whatevs.
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I knew that there were other versions
I was only comparing her version of Jesus with my version.
 
samtonga43

samtonga43

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Trailblazer said:
Those were subjective evidenced beliefs
The Essence of the deity is in no way demonstrable, but the attributes of the deity are seen in the Messengers of the deity, who are Manifestations of the deity.
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Where is the objective evidence that MrB is a manifestation of Deity?
 
samtonga43

samtonga43

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Trailblazer said:
#5577 Trailblazer, Today at 11:40 AM
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Tb tells us that…
1. The Writings are not the evidence. (Note the bold emphasis).
2. MrB told us in his writings what the evidence is that supports his claims.

Question: Where IS the OBJECTIVE evidence?
Answer: In the writings, or in someone else’s writings.
But the writings are not the evidence.

Question: Where IS the OBJECTIVE evidence?
Answer: In the writings, or in someone else’s writings.
But the writings are not the evidence.

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And so on, ad nauseam.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
samtonga43 said:
Tb tells us that…
1. The Writings are not the evidence. (Note the bold emphasis).
2. MrB told us in his writings what the evidence is that supports his claims.

Question: Where IS the OBJECTIVE evidence?
Answer: In the writings, or in someone else’s writings.
But the writings are not the evidence.

Question: Where IS the OBJECTIVE evidence?
Answer: In the writings, or in someone else’s writings.
But the writings are not the evidence.

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And so on, ad nauseam.
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The writings are not the evidence but we read about the evidence in books (writings).... ever heard of those?
How do you think anyone can know what the evidence is if they do not read about it? They cannot find out any other way except by talking to people, but that is not the best way because there is no way to know the person you are talking to knows what they are talking about.

Case in point: How do you know anything about God or Jesus? You read it in someone else’s writings, in a book called the Bible. :rolleyes:
 
ppp

ppp

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Trailblazer said:
The writings are not the evidence but we read about the evidence in books (writings).... ever heard of those?
How do you think anyone can know what the evidence is if they do not read about it?
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By looking at the subject matter itself.
 
ppp

ppp

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Trailblazer said:
Case in point: How do you know anything about God or Jesus? You read it in someone else’s writings, in a book called the Bible. :rolleyes:
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I don't know anything about God or Jesus. I only know what other people have claimed to know about God and Jesus.
 
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