What if you witnessed undeniable proof God exists. Would you hide it?
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Atheists: What if?
- Thread starter savagewind
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Give me some idea of what such an undeniable proof would be that I somehow would have the choice to hide regardless.
Come to think of it, why would anyone want to hide such evidence? In order to avoid widespread nihilism ("god exists, yet he is essentially useless or worse"), perhaps?
In order to give you some meaningful answer I would need some clearer definition of the scenario you are thinking of.
Being an atheist, I flat out doubt it is at all possible for a "non-optional" (i.e. Abrahamic) God to exist, therefore it is difficult for me to imagine what such proof could be.
Come to think of it, why would anyone want to hide such evidence? In order to avoid widespread nihilism ("god exists, yet he is essentially useless or worse"), perhaps?
In order to give you some meaningful answer I would need some clearer definition of the scenario you are thinking of.
Being an atheist, I flat out doubt it is at all possible for a "non-optional" (i.e. Abrahamic) God to exist, therefore it is difficult for me to imagine what such proof could be.
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In order to...
... further the evil atheist conspiracy that is lying about that nasty idea of Evolution, perhaps?
... deny people the knowledge that they may be saved if they only accept Jesus / the Quran? Out of the deep hatred for God in our hearts, or something?
I truly don't know.
Nope. I have a hard time imagining proof that could convince others, but assuming I had it, I'd share it.
Someone might hide that God's existance was proved to them because they like a no God world better than knowing God and they love to be right more than they would wish to be real.
I can just about imagine such a scenario. It might even actually happen for some people. It is even possible that I have at some point met one of them.
There are a lot of people, with a wide range of beliefs about God, out there.
But really, I would not bet that such people actually exist. It is... more than a bit insane to have that specific mindset.
Assuming, of course, that this God you speak of is at all worth of some degree of respect or sympathy. It is impressive how often that is uncertain or even outright doubtful with many conceptions of the God of Abraham.
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Monk Of Reason
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If I was witness to undeniable proof then I would hope I would be rational enough to accept it as irrefutable evidence and change my opinion.
dgirl1986
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Why would I hide it?
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
No. Hiding things to preserve a belief system seems to be a trademark of organized religion.
Assuming that the person in question really was exposed to proof of God's existence that they knew was irrefutable, it would be a case of intellectual dishonesty, masochism and spiritual suicide to deny or hide it (assuming that we are talking about the "fire-and-brimstone" God here). I find it hard to believe that any half-rational person would do that (although I wouldn't be surprised if there were indeed some that would...).
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Answering as an agnostic - No, I welcome discovery and acquisition of knowledge. Now let's place the shoe on the other foot; What if you witnessed undeniable proof that there was no god. Or that there was a god, but almost everything that your religion claimed about god's will and nature turned out to be wildly incorrect? Would you hide it?
Shout it from the rooftops! Nobody could hide such a thing.
I'd feel like learning facebook and twitter and such so I could share it as widely and quickly as possible.
It would be the best thing that ever happened.
Tom
FunctionalAtheist
Hammer of Reason
To answer the question, no. But what would you consider unenviable proof? I've witnessed things that some would call undeniable proof. I've even heard that the shape of the female reproductive organs is undeniable proof?
If you it can be seen, heard, felt, tasted, or smelled, then the overwhelming odds are there is a natural cause.
Now let me go off; why do we get questioned about 'undeniable' proof? I'd like to know if theists have 'any evidence whatsoever' that is inconsistent with a natural explanation?
That would not be rational. If I had proof that God exists then it does not really matter what my preferences are. Even if I did not like the idea of God, I would have to deal with the issue if proof was available. i do not like cancer, either, but if there is proof that I have it, I would act accordingly.
You seem to think that atheists tend not to believe because they do not like the idea that God might exist. I think it is the opposite, theists believe because they like the idea that God exists. This is the only reason I see that might motivate people to believe in things that have no evidence.
Atheists do not believe because there isn't a shred of evidence of God's existence. And I personally know that God does not exist because the world behaves exactly as we should expect if He did not exist.
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- viole
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RichardParker
Member
I can just repeat what many here have said before:
Why would I hide it?
I personally have no idea how "undeniable proof for a god/gods" would look like, since I can't think of a real mechanism to determine supernatural causation, which needed to be the case here, but if such a thing is possible, I wouldn't hide it...
Heck, I probably COULDN'T hide it! It's a fricken GOD, for crying out loud!
Come to think of it, having the choice to show that God exists goes a long way towards making one a prophet or Messiah, doesn't it?
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Not from an atheist point of view that I presume you're getting at.
In general terms it would depend on the nature of the god that have been revealed and whether the proof could be demonstrated to others in an equally undeniable manner. Even if I knew god existed, there'd be little point saying so if I'd come across as just another kook and it's questionable whether the world is read for definitive proof of a specific god.
Anyway, you presume the god that exists doesn't want me to hide the truth.
What an insulting question.