Atheists: What would be evidence of God’s existence?

[Trailblazer]

Trailblazer said: Show me where I ever claimed that my belief is true.

Sheldon said: You don't think your belief is true?
Trailblazer said: I think my belief is true but I don't claim my belief is true.

Sheldon said: You're not sure?
Trailblazer said: I am sure.

There is no claim there. Thinking and being sure is not claiming.
Any logical person can see that.

 

[ppp]

There is no claim there. Thinking and being sure is not claiming.
Any logical person can see that.

No one is buying your shtick.

 

[Trailblazer]

No one is buying your shtick.

Ask me if I care. This is just a silly forum.

People on this thread cannot even understand the meanings of words. It is really sad.
They have decided that I am making claims and that is ALL they can think of.
People who claim to know that other people's intentions are are arrogant to the hilt..

I AM MAKING NO CLAIMS. I ONLY HAVE BELIEFS.

 

[ppp]

I AM MAKING NO CLAIMS. I ONLY HAVE BELIEFS.

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[Trailblazer]

#5342

"No one is buying your shtick"

You mean certain people are not buying it, that is not no one.

 

[samtonga43]

Talk about illogical. If His claims became my claims then I would be a Messenger of God! I have nothing to claim since I did not do anything that is claim-worthy.
I have shared my beliefs, that is all I ever did.

Here's what you said:
"I accepted His claims as truth".
Therefore, it is entirely logical to say that his claims became your truth.

 

[Trailblazer]

Here's what you said:
"I accepted His claims as truth".
Therefore, it is entirely logical to say that his claims became your truth.

His claims did not become my truth. They were what He knew to be true, based upon what He heard from God.
Therefore, it is entirely logical to say that I believed that His claims to have heard from God were the truth.

 

[samtonga43]

"No one is buying your shtick"
You mean certain people are not buying it, that is not no one.

She/he probably means those on this thread (and on other threads and other forums, who are able to think rationally.

 

[samtonga43]

I did not say "these posts are none of my business."
I said "It is none of your business what I believe.

P1 I have permission to respond to posts on this forum
P2 I respond to Tb’s posts about what she believes and why she believes it.
Conclusion:
Tb is mistaken when she says that what she believes is ‘none of my business’.

If this is a discussion board, why aren't you discussing anything?

I am. I am discussing the errors in your logical thinking process which lead to your belief that you are correct. By the way, can you clear something up for me? Are you unsure of the meaning of the word ‘discussion’, or the term ‘none of your business’? Is this why you have to refer to a dictionary for the definitions?

Instead of answering my question you deflected because you cannot answer my question without getting egg all over your face.

No deflection, no egg. I have answered your question. Maybe you don’t understand my answer, but I have answered. I answer you yet again in this post. See above. You bring up your beliefs; I respond.

So, why do you keep bringing up MY BELIEFS?

Answered ad infinitum.

You are not even discussing them, you are just harping on why I should not have them.

Please show me where I said you should not have your beliefs.

 

[samtonga43]

Ask me if I care. This is just a silly forum.
People on this thread cannot even understand the meanings of words. It is really sad.
They have decided that I am making claims and that is ALL they can think of.
People who claim to know that other people's intentions are are arrogant to the hilt..
I AM MAKING NO CLAIMS. I ONLY HAVE BELIEFS.

There we are, folks! We are posting on a silly forum where we don't understand the meanings of words, but we are arrogant to the hilt.
And who said this? Tb.

 

[samtonga43]

His claims did not become my truth. They were what He knew to be true, based upon what He heard from God.
Therefore, it is entirely logical to say that I believed that His claims to have heard from God were the truth.

LOL! You claim that you do not claim that MrB's claims were the truth.
Am I correct?

 

[Trailblazer]

I am. I am discussing the errors in your logical thinking process which lead to your belief that you are correct.

No, you are not 'discussing' any errors in your logical thinking process, you are just SAYING that I committed logical errors. If you were to try to discuss them you would be up the creek without a paddle because then you would have to EXPLAIN how I committed any logical errors.

 

[Trailblazer]

LOL! You claim that you do not claim that MrB's claims were the truth.
Am I correct?

I do not claim it, I say it. I say that I believe that the claims of Baha'u'llah were the truth.

Obviously, what I believe really bothers you. Nobody who was not bothered by it would stalk me, following me from thread to thread, trying to make me look bad to other posters, calling me illogical when there is no basis for that accusation except that you do not LIKE the conclusion I came to, that Baha'u'llah was a Messenger of God.

Nobody else does this but you.

If there was a basis for the accusation that I am illogical you could explain it, but you cannot explain it.
You simply BELIEVE that my thinking is illogical, but that does not mean it is illogical. You have no evidence that proves that I committed any logical errors.

Prosecutor: Mr. Smith murdered his wife.
Judge: Do you have some evidence to present?
Prosecutor: No, I just believe that Mr. Smith murdered his wife, I have no evidence.
Judge: Case closed.

 

[Sheldon]

There is no claim there. Thinking and being sure is not claiming.
Any logical person can see that.

You didn't just think it though, you stated or asserted it on here....more than once....

Claim
verb

1. state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.

Oh dear, and around and around we go....

 

[Sheldon]

No one is buying your shtick.

No literate person could buy it, a cursory Google search destroys it utterly, which does rather beg the question?

 

[Sheldon]

I AM MAKING NO CLAIMS. I ONLY HAVE BELIEFS.

You know that's a claim right?

 

[Sheldon]

you would have to EXPLAIN how I committed any logical errors.

Oh come off it, this place is littered with you using known common logical fallacies. ignore that by all means if it makes you happy, but please don't even try and pretend it hasn't happened.

 

[Sheldon]

I do not claim it, I say it. I say that I believe that the claims of Baha'u'llah were the truth.

So you're not claiming it is true, just stating or asserting that you believe it is true.



Claim
verb
1. state or assert that something is the case.



The real irony is you could have corrected your error months ago, but the more you dig in, the funnier it gets. We all make mistakes, even basic errors in semantics, but to defend an error like this is just beyond silly. It's a single post, and then it goes away, "sorry my bad I made a mistake", how hard is that?

 

[rational experiences]

Every message given is by humans to humans via realisation conscious psychic.

Consciousness ours...psychic is given from another body.

So we know we get advised our mind says so.

First earth was sun blasted.

Thought thesis..
Cold sun big bang body. Cold crystalline earth cold gases.

Fact your life conscious human thinker is rationally only on earth. No matter what type of thesis you claim you think about.

Conscious life advice of a human by burning gas light that a cold then hot sun blasted.

Your theisms direct consciousness only. As I can pick any subject I like doesn't mean you are actually imposing the subject by thoughts.

O o earths first wandering star saved us. The planet. The moon. More than likely held a huge unfrozen ice facure poured water into earth.

Assisting cooling from the sun attack.

Once only the amount of water as mass to close opened converting earth facure in a nuclear attack. Pertinent to science earth body mass theisms today. What it took to close earth seal.

The warning to scientific theists comes by star fall causes.

Always had.

We however live own life in cold gases. Supporting held life ground water pressures. Pressure holds O the cell. Biology teaching. Is not radiating causes as losses. It was pressure.

Why they said O cell holdings on gods earth image is by space held o pressures.

Some stars burn so hot have hot gas release the warning. Falling wandering star one or the other. Christ or satanic.

Bahullah theme. Rome knowingly had been set on fire by still using temple science. Hit by burning broken up star.

Came in fast was recorded.

1000 year star still irradiating burning. Shroud evidence. Mind of science inventor given advice. Muslim men pyramid land owners tried to re establish temple of science in Jerusalem.

Bahuallah tried to teach gentle spirit mind only. Be warned.

Group world community fought stopped it from rebuilding. The science of life's attack.

Russia gets hit next moment there you are nuclear inventing again.

It's real advice always was. Brain mind is possessed by AI star condition of the sun. Brain caused changes. Burning gas status spirit.

Spirit in science a gas.

 

[samtonga43]

No, you are not 'discussing' any errors in your logical thinking process

I am discussing errors in your logical thinking process

you are just SAYING that I committed logical errors.

I, and others, have tried to show you where you commit logical errors and why they are logical errors. You don’t seem to understand.

If you were to try to discuss them you would be up the creek without a paddle because then you would have to EXPLAIN how I committed any logical errors.

I, and others, have explained how you commit your errors of logic. I'm afraid you are in a rut of your own making; you cannot, or will not, understand our explanations.