The writings are only part of the evidence. Besides their writings they have their person and the fruits of their mission.
What would you expect to see as evidence for what the Messengers claim?
But that doesn't really matter if its simply part of the evidence, if you think about it. If we take my example of me claiming to be God, does my claim become a lot more plausible, because a person I don't know tells you that he also had me read his mind?
Given my claim is that im God, and lets bring it down a bit and say that God gives me the answers of what people are thinking, so its more like a messenger or a connection with God.
Isn't it more likely that this stranger is lying, maybe I just paid him some money or that I simply fooled him as well, because as a magician I know how to do that, or I was simply lucky, because I did cold reading and know how to do that.
My point is that you can have 500 weak evidences like the ones above, but they don't add up to be a strong evidence. Lets say, I was blindfolded and driven to a secret location by some people that wanted to test me, so under controlled conditions. And they put in a room with no other people, no windows etc. and then ask me to read the mind of some random person they have put in another room. If I did that, it would be damn impressive and worth way more than all these 500 weak evidence. it still wouldn't prove that it was God, but at least it would prove that something very strange was going on.
So equally the evidence that these messenger would have to provide, has to match their claim.
You are right about that, no Messenger of God has ever been able to demonstrate that they had a connection to God. How could they demonstrate that given God can never be demonstrated?
Sure he can, but think about it like this. What type of God would send or make someone a messenger, without giving them the ability to prove what they are claiming? God should be wise enough to know that it is not going to fly.
Also a lot of people will claim that miracles, whatever they are, I simply call them "bad odds gone right"
But clearly winning the lottery is not a miracle, despite the odds probably being way worse, than what people will refer to as miracles. My point is, if God is real, he is being pretty ****ty to people that claim that they have some sort of connection to him, because he doesn't give them anything to work with or to back up their claim.
So as the above, is it more likely that these people think the are in connection with God, compared to them actually being so? When we know people make mistakes about things, lie about it on purpose, that they might have a trauma, a psychological condition etc. All these things you have to put against the claim of whether it is the more likely explanation than they have a connection with God, which they can't provide any evidence for. Thereby not saying that they are lying or wrong for that matter. But to take the default position that they most likely have such special connection given the claim they are making, seems irrational given how many cases of mistakes, lies and deceptions, psychological conditions or simply people convinced that they are special etc. there is. What is the chance that this one special person is right? And again, is it rational to jump to the conclusion that they are, when so many before them have been mistaken?
I understand your point but there is no way that God can be proven to exist without the Messengers, who are the proof, so it is kind of a Catch-22 situation.
If I claim that im now a messenger of God, am I telling the truth or not?
Most likely you will say that im not. But that is exactly why God made me a messenger, because as I wrote this reply I started out as an atheist, and by the end im now a messenger, that is a miracle right?
How do you determine whether that is true or not, if I as the messenger make the claim, you won't believe me, because you think im an atheist, unfortunately as with all the other messengers God didn't give me any way to prove it either.
The problem is, that either God is responsible for the catch 22 or that people that want to believe in this, don't demand the evidence or proof from these people that the ought to demand. God could easily prove it if he existed and wanted to. And no I don't buy the free will excuse, it is not valid