One of the major differences between ONA and THEM is o9a's stark use of rationality vs them's fervent irrationality. Both can be said to be forms of magic but its hardly fair to expect warriors to understand sorcerers.
This was given in reply to Typhon re his essay on Magick, Acausality and Technique:
"In my mind the Temple of THEM will set in motion a culture that has at its root an entirely anti-abrahamic elixir or philosophy that corrodes the supports upon which their Empire of forms are held up by the ignorance but often just inequality of what the Magi know of Forms and the standard Magician.
Setting a charter date for 2036 when THEM will cease is not an arbitrary number of years it is calculated to involve the majority of my life, in other words, with this Temple I am All in. In my mind what is supposed to happen has already happened there is no doubt in my mind that what I am trying to do can be stopped, even if it is not me at the helm pushing for it. It is for me an inevitability that Nature will achieve an evolution of humanity toward the Undividual, and soon. It is then curious that you would recognize this playing around with Time and detail it so well as you have because whilst somewhat conscious of what I am doing, much of it comes from some Other source, driven through ferocity and patience extending over long long periods of Time. It almost feels, as if I have done this sort of thing before. But -I- haven't. Perhaps my Other source, has.
Projecting a completed Aim of THEM forward to 2036 when what we want to achieve will have cemented itself is not prophecy, it is not well-wishing, it is not faith, and it is not conjecture. It is an irrational sense that it is inevitable yes, it requires work to get it to this state, but it feels that I know exactly what to do or more exactly what pressures must be applied and where to allow certain currents to swamp or flow with existing ones so as to introduce a hostile takeover of that current with that of THEM.
So it is not as if I am merely going through the motions and the destiny of THEM will take care of itself, it requires diligence, cunning and hard work to keep chipping away at the supports that prevent THEM from coming through and I Can fail through failing to stalk death or having my full faculties reduced before time which is why it is of some urgency that I write so rapidly and so much and seek to see it all in hard formats as an autonomous guide should that happen before my time charter is successfully navigated to conclusion.
But there is a sense that this process of the Undividual; of people becoming obsessed with and adept with Forms, Phorms, Forces, Phorces and the Phyrm cannot be stopped. That I was put here to hasten or advance it as a tool of Nature but to recognize those Others that were put there for the same reason and to find a unique way to unite as many of Them as possible without shackling, controlling or limiting them in their individuality. I believe I have found that method and it is the backbone of the Temple of THEM. If I cannot complete it, She (Nature) will keep trying and continue with the Others she has spawned for the push, but it is my privilege to be somehow aware of my Vyrd and to direct both irrational and rational energies into pursuing it. This requires a weird wormhole in Time as you have suggested; knowing from some sense that THEM is already a reality and the evolutionary push will come from many angles not just mine and keep coming until it is done, places the reality or result of THEM in the future 28 years hence. Whilst back here in the pre-future result of the Past I am furiously working as an alchemist to introduce the right events and persons to create the right catalysts to produce the right energies to both corrode existing supports of the Matrix-ridden Phyrm and empower a legacy that even if incomplete, can go a long way to destroying the Magi. In a sense then, I feel to be in two time frames and many in between. I feel my own mortality very strongly and this is what I mean when I say I stalk death, I know it is around any corner and so I watch for it, be careful what I do, but it has stalked me too with many many close shaves each hastening me to work faster. I see people not as a static organism but as multi-chronologized, where I sense their shift through time and mentally calculate and push them through different time stages knowing they are both old and young at the once. It is an odd sensation but I am already halfway through my life. Time is short and getting shorter. And time is very important in long-term magic. I think your essay unfolds many of the techniques I have been using in raising the Temple of THEM... a fascinating article. Thank you."
This has no bearing on your erroneous presumption that the Temple claimed to have already existed for 30 years prior to 2006 - it will exist for 30 years as its charter claims - until 2036, when I will cease to put my energy behind it. How others perceive it, and how I and THEM perceive it may differ, since some see it as unable to exist in the future because of their reliance on rational linear time - where as THEM, do not like to be hemmed in my the rational and use anything to achieve everything: ours is an act of magic, observation of our act is an act of watching magic, - for us, THEM's triumph is a foregone conclusion. It matters only to be aware of our role here in the past to shape the future that has already built the Temple.
