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You dodged the obvious but ok.
Its not worth arguing about.
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Banning ‘Woke’ Words in State Documents, Arkansas Governor Signs Executive Order
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Its not worth arguing about.
Secret Chief
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The obvious is indeed the obvious. But presuming can lead to errors.
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Just because its a cold rainy day and I decided to do nothing today.....
Being transgender is not a disorder.
Saying its a disorder is stigmatizing.
Its only a disorder if one believes they are a god, King Charles, a cat, the president, etc.
So it is useful. And it is not only with transgender people. Sometimes it would be useful with cis people as well.
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Cis people? There's that word that is hardly ever used being used again.
What are cis people?
well that's what i thought, but shadow - unless i misunderstood - seemed to disagree...
so we'll see...
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With her voice, you can sure tell that's Katie/Kate from the B52's
What is the science you're citing?
Oh here we go! It won't be good enough to say "embodied cognition". You'll want a few short words to explain a complex topic.
It won't be enough to mention how scientists who study our motor systems now know that much of our cognition occurs in the spinal cord and the nerves beyond.
It won' be enough to say that cognitive scientists are now mostly agreeing that it's really hard to know where in our bodies our minds end and our bodies began.
You'll demand citations! "Citations I say, or you're just making it up, because I the great @Revoltingest don't know about this. So if you cannot summarize it in a few words, it's obviously wrong."
Nah, if you're sincerely interested in the science, I just gave you some good leads.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That's been a common way of putting it fir awhile.
Tue disorder comes from things like depression, anxiety, low quality of life and suicidal ideations over the sense of dysphoria, as well as the stressors endured from being a minority that is widely discriminated against.
Being trans in and of itself doesn't cause that, as evidenced by trans people who don't deal with those issues. This is often achieved as a trans individual moves from a constant state of gender dysphoria and achieves gender euphoria, or at least not as dysphoric.
I asked a simple question.
You gave a diatribe about why you won't answer.
That makes the issue hard to discuss.
When you plant ice, you'll harvest wind
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Or weeds the ice watered
Ok, so it's fair to say trans people "feel like they're in the wrong body". And we do not want to call it a disorder.
So, since we know that the mind and body are one, how can someone "be in the wrong body"? Is it their mind experiencing this?
You've made it clear that your argument is hollow.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I already said:
Yes, it is a psychological thing. Like happiness. That is a psychological thing. We can see what neurochemicals are involved, but the state itself, like so many things, is felt in the mind.
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"Yes, it is a psychological thing"
Psychological refers to mental/emotional...
but its not a mental condition right? Would you call it any emotional condition?
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Do you realize saying 'I imagine' is a figure of speech?
If it 110° outside and Bob says man its hot out.
I will reply with 'I imagine'.
Its kind of like being sarcastic to the obvious.
Maybe that's a country thing.
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
Congratulations. I have given up.