Belief in demons

[Heartfelt]

I do believe in people being possessed by demons, however, you can't blame all of your sins on demons. They may tempt you, but if you're a child of God you can not be possessed by a demon. Your sins are the result of your weakness to temptations.

You are correct; however, some things /people ARE possessed and they did something to allow this into their lives...Christians can not be possessed but temptation can lead to a lapse in judgement from time to time making you wonder what on earth ever 'came' over you to do something like that...you opened a door for 'temptation' as you said and allowed it. But when I spoke of Manson I really don't think he was ever a Christian..because no Christian can be possessed in THAT way, I was just refering to the fact that demons are all around us and Christian or not they would like nothing more than to get some sort of hold on a person...Christians can't be possessed but demons can still reak havoc in your life. Satan knows what our weaknesses are and knows just who can and can't be possessed...no matter how 'strong' you think you are you have a weakness...everyone does...to some it turns to demonic posession...to others it becomes overwhelming temptation to slip in the wrong direction...Christians who slip must make it right immediately or lose fellowship with God through it

 

[Runewolf1973]

I believe it is all about the balance. I believe that in each of us there is part "God" and part "Satan". We are all part angel and part demon in other words. We just have to work on keeping the balance. We can't let the "demon" side of us take over. Consider the "tree of knowledge". It was ONE tree that had the knowledge of BOTH good and evil. Why was there not two trees, one good, and one evil if the two were meant to be separate? That is because the two are actually One. You can't have one without the other. Christians keep trying to separate that which is unseparable. That is why there are so many unanswered questions in the bible. They refuse to accept all the answers because they don't believe that Satan could possibly have some of those answers. Good and evil. Light and dark. Male and female. Yin and Yang. God and Satan. All are as One. The ONE tree of knowledge of both good and evil. Don't try to make two trees out of good and evil when even "God" determined there should be only one. We all have that demon within us. This is why we must constantly be aware of what we are doing. If we are not paying attention, that demon will come out of us and manifest itself. If we were to let that demon side take over and lose that balance, then we can easily become like Charles Manson. He lost that balance, and his demon manifested itself in bad way.

 

[Heartfelt]

I believe it is all about the balance. I believe that in each of us there is part "God" and part "Satan". We are all part angel and part demon in other words. We just have to work on keeping the balance. We can't let the "demon" side of us take over. Consider the "tree of knowledge". It was ONE tree that had the knowledge of BOTH good and evil. Why was there not two trees, one good, and one evil if the two were meant to be separate? That is because the two are actually One. You can't have one without the other. Christians keep trying to separate that which is unseparable. That is why there are so many unanswered questions in the bible. They refuse to accept all the answers because they don't believe that Satan could possibly have some of those answers. Good and evil. Light and dark. Male and female. Yin and Yang. God and Satan. All are as One. The ONE tree of knowledge of both good and evil. Don't try to make two trees out of good and evil when even "God" determined there should be only one. We all have a demon within us.

well Run...I can almost agree with you but there are some reasons I can't, We are all born with a sinful nature and anyone who has ever had kids can testify to that...kids will see just how far they can push the bar to get you going...sort of how we see God...He's our 'Father' and there is a part of every little child that recognizes there is something much bigger all the time...The one thing I have learned about being 'Christian' is there are many who say they are that make the real ones look like idiots...first of all Christians are saved by grace but still have to live in our worldly body which is constantly under attack by the forces of evil...the tree you spoke of once was one tree but when Satan was cast out that tree got a good pruning...Off went satan and 1/3 of angels who had become demons...What remained was the powers of love, grace and forgiveness...satan may have some answers but not all...he doesn't know for one the hour of his demise...he knows time is running short so he's got to reel in as many as he can...seems he's doing a pretty good job too...but his hour will come and the lake of fire awaits for him, his demons and all those who refuse to see who the Light of the world really is.

 

[Runewolf1973]

well Run...I can almost agree with you but there are some reasons I can't, We are all born with a sinful nature and anyone who has ever had kids can testify to that...kids will see just how far they can push the bar to get you going...sort of how we see God...He's our 'Father' and there is a part of every little child that recognizes there is something much bigger all the time...The one thing I have learned about being 'Christian' is there are many who say they are that make the real ones look like idiots...first of all Christians are saved by grace but still have to live in our worldly body which is constantly under attack by the forces of evil...the tree you spoke of once was one tree but when Satan was cast out that tree got a good pruning...Off went satan and 1/3 of angels who had become demons...What remained was the powers of love, grace and forgiveness...satan may have some answers but not all...he doesn't know for one the hour of his demise...he knows time is running short so he's got to reel in as many as he can...seems he's doing a pretty good job too...but his hour will come and the lake of fire awaits for him, his demons and all those who refuse to see who the Light of the world really is.

See? Even you, a christian, can admit that we are all born with a demon side to our nature. That demon side never completely leaves us though. It is part of that knowledge. So long as we "know" what evil is, we have no choice but to be part of it. The knowledge of it is within us. We can not get rid of the knowledge, we can only control what we do with that knowledge. That is why animals cannot do evil, they don't have the knowledge of what evil is. They only know instinct and survival. Animals are truly One with "God's" kingdom. We are the ones who go "cast out". Remember? To get ourselves back in, we must learn how to control our knowledge of good and evil. If we try to ignore that evil and push it aside, we will never learn how to fully control it. If we can not control our evil, we will never be welcome into "God's" kingdom. As humans living on this earth, we ARE still "cast out" even now are we not? We STILL have that demon in us. Are you in Heaven yet? No? That is WHY. Accept it and learn from it. It is there.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Even in the Bible it says that we are ALL born sinners. This is true. We are all born with the human mind and the knowledge of good and evil. We ALL have that demon within us. Whether you wish to accept that fact or not. For proof of that fact, we are not in "heaven" yet.

The bible has so many truths in it, it is just how people "percieve" it that is why they are mislead.

 

[RobGelber]

Demons are very real...people are possessed by them all the time...If you've ever gotten so angry you could have busted someone in the face and then you look back and wonder why you left yourself get so out of control then you experienced opning the door to the demonic world. If you looked at Charles Manson during his trial for murder you could almost see that he was demon possessed.

Many men allow Porn to have dominion over their lives...that is another form of demonic possession...there are demons all around just waiting for the opportunity to dwell.

The problem with discussing demons is that it can be difficult to know whether it's a demon or not. Say I experience negative emotions and do bad things because of them. Was it a demon playing with me or was it just my own lack of ability to keep my feelings in balance? How can I know the difference? Even when people do really terrible things, how do you know whether they have been manipulated by demons or whether they just made a series of downward spiraling choices?

I'll agree that bad things happen, but I am continually amazed by the knowledge that people often claim to have about what is going on in the demonic world. How do you know what the demons are up to?

 

[Random]

Demons represent something that is real. Does that mean "demons are real"?

That is the question, indeed...

 

[Runewolf1973]

ALL is ONE. The good and the evil. "God" and "Satan" are ONE. There is no "other". Does it not explicitly state this in the Bible even? There is no separate God or entity besides God. There is only "God" which is ALL things that exist naturally including the "spirit" as another energy form. When we try to make separate "demons" or "Satan" entities out of things, we are actually creating our own "idols". There is only a balance. Our mind is there to help us balance the knowledge of both good and evil. If we lose hold of our ability to think properly, our mind creates it's own "demons" and they can manifest themselves. If we truly believe that these "demons" are separate "beings" and in our own minds give them shape and form with curly tails and pointy horns, we are creating "idols" in our own minds. Christians believe SO strongly in Satan as a being, in reality it is THEY that are giving Satan the power to exist. They are they're own worst enemy. There should be NO "idols", only "God". The ONE TRUE SOURCE of ALL things and creations. We are ALL part of it. Humans even make "idols" out of "God". There is no separate God that lives in heaven waiting for us on the other side. God is within us and everything around us. "God" cannot possibly be separate from "God". "God" can be only ONE, but with many expressions and many faces. We ARE those many expressions and those many faces of "God". Everything that exists is an expression of "God". The good, the bad, the ugly, and the beautiful.

Even Satanists don't believe in a separate being of either God or Satan. They are atheists. They believe that nature and existence are ONE. They are part of the ALL that constitutes "God" and in a sense, worthy of self-worship. It is Christians who make "God" into some kind of masculine-oriented supernatural "being" that exists elsewhere. They do the same thing with "Satan". THEY are the true "idol" believers and worshipers. Even if I worshiped the earth, or the sun, or the moon, or trees, or even a stone, I would still be worshiping part of what "God" REALLY IS. For "God" is ALL those things that exist in nature. There is no separate "God" or "Satan" entity. There is only ALL of what "God" is, which is EVERYTHING. The "SOURCE" of ALL things.

But that is just my opinion. Don't take it too hard.

 

[Weddy]

You are correct; however, some things /people ARE possessed and they did something to allow this into their lives...Christians can not be possessed but temptation can lead to a lapse in judgement from time to time making you wonder what on earth ever 'came' over you to do something like that...you opened a door for 'temptation' as you said and allowed it. But when I spoke of Manson I really don't think he was ever a Christian..because no Christian can be possessed in THAT way, I was just refering to the fact that demons are all around us and Christian or not they would like nothing more than to get some sort of hold on a person...Christians can't be possessed but demons can still reak havoc in your life. Satan knows what our weaknesses are and knows just who can and can't be possessed...no matter how 'strong' you think you are you have a weakness...everyone does...to some it turns to demonic posession...to others it becomes overwhelming temptation to slip in the wrong direction...Christians who slip must make it right immediately or lose fellowship with God through it

I agree with you. I believe that even though satan can't possess Christians, he tries to tempt us. I guess he figures that even though he can't have us, he can make us look bad in the eyes of God and everyone else.

Sometimes you can just tell that satan or one of his demons is around because you can just "feel" the evil. I've even heard stories from Christians being confronted by a demon.

I heard a story one time that a man went to bed one night. He woke up and felt the presence of someone standing at the foot of his bed. He turned on the light to see the person that had broken in. When the light came on, he saw satan standing there. The man said, "Oh, it's just you", and went back to sleep.

I had heard that Martin Luther told this story. I may be wrong though. Anyway, I guess it tells us how we should just ignore satan and turn away.

 

[Heneni]

Do any of you believe that demons can travel through the internet, reside on websites, etc?

Thats just mean! Have a heart! To be stuck on the net is worse than hell.

 

[Breathe]

I believe something akin to "demons" are real, something spiteful which inhibits man from growth; I don't think they're beings that reside in flames and eat people and wotnot, but I still believe there are entities, somewhere between the Christian mystic style and the Hindu asura type.

 

[Runewolf1973]

I believe something akin to "demons" are real, something spiteful which inhibits man from growth; I don't think they're beings that reside in flames and eat people and wotnot, but I still believe there are entities, somewhere between the Christian mystic style and the Hindu asura type.

That is true, there are evil spirits, or "ghosts" that would like to pretend that they are "demons" and they can manifest as such. They play "evil" games try to act like Satan. They get their "kicks" out of doing this. There are also the kind of demons that mankind manifests out of folklore and superstition. Just because something is ugly or scary, or different does not mean that it is "evil". Mainstream religions tend to make "demons" or "evil" out of anything that does not follow their belief.

 

[Reverend Chris]

I'm curious to know how many people believe in the reality of demons.. Now if the term in English "demons" is not what you would use.. maybe rakshasa or possibly Jinn or evil spirits that too will be acceptable.

- Art

I voted that demons do not exist however I forgot about our government and the IRS

 

[Hema]

Yes they are real. Hindus call them rakshasas. They are evil spirits.

 

[doppelganger]

Yes they are real. Hindus call them rakshasas. They are evil spirits.

NERD ALERT! I first encountered that word playing Advanced Dungeons & Dragons. Rakshasas are one of the most fascinating of all evil spirit mythologies to me. Right up there with doppelgangers.

 

[arthra]

So far the stats show:

I strongly believe that demons are real 45.45%
I think there may be demons 9.09%
I doubt there are such beings as demons 12.12%
Demons don't exist 33.33%



This also is similar to other polls I've seen with the largest block about 40 plus percent believing "demons" are real.. of course the polls are still open and if you haven't "voted" please feel free.. At the end I'll share some of the other polls on this I've seen.

- Art

 

[Sireal]

We _Are_ the demons.

 

[Heartfelt]

I don't agree with the porn thing. There is nothing wrong with a healthy sex life. More demons are caused when religion forces people to hold back their natural desires and make them do very bad, sometimes unnatural things, or like have sex before marriage and then feel incredibly bad and guilty for having done it. That feeling of overwhelming guilt alone can stir up a nasty demon, but it is not always the person's fault for being human and acting on human impulses. Demons just love it when religious people take every simple act and turn it into a great SIN. We might as well all be living in hell already. Some people seem to dwell with the notion of sin and that is all they preach. This is why I am anti-religious. They make demons out of everything. I do agree though, that there are some manipulated and twisted individuals out there that are basically walking demons. I agree that some forms of porn are sick, twisted and evil, but you can't burn down the whole forest because of a couple rotten trees.

And so it would seem that one person's demon, is another person's angel.

Nothing about Porn is healthy so how does that bring about a 'healthy sex life"? You simply don't get it...aaahhh...my point that is...fleshly desires are of this world as is Satan and demonic spirits...pure love is beyond this world. God didn't make us sexual beings then expect us to never do it...what He expects is to do it within HIS will for our lives and trust me in this case those dirty books don't come close to the passion you can have.

Now as for those trees you don't burn down...depends on why they are rotten...if it's from disease well yep you burn down the forest...:>)