Benjamin Netanyahu's statement actually offends me. Am I wromg to be offended?

[LuisDantas]

OP.
You ARE wrong to be offended as no offense was meant by Net.
Only a fool takes offense where none was meant.
You are not a fool.

That is flat out wrong. Offense is often made without intent. I can't speak for the Israeli PM, so I don't know whether he meant to be offensive. But that matters little.

 

[Flankerl]

I don't know whether he meant to be offensive.

Israeli legislative election, 2015 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[suncowiam]

That is flat out wrong. Offense is often made without intent. I can't speak for the Israeli PM, so I don't know whether he meant to be offensive. But that matters little.

Hey,

I just like to put a little spin on this and its just my opinion.

Offense is taken but not given...

Offense is generated by those that process the information. Possibly offense was meant to be generated in some expressions but its the receiver of those expressions that generate the offense. Not saying its wrong or right but just my view of how offense is spread around. =)

Expressions can easily be muted if the originator had to care for everyone's reaction. It's the old term, "walking on egg shells."

 

[CMike]

I don't think so either. The Jews are an important part of European culture, as I said before - if the Jewish diaspora were to return to Irsrael it would be an i calculable loss to global society. Jews ARE mostly Europeans. Anti-semitism is not universal to Europeans, no offence but you seem to be frighteningly bigoted and to have a grossly over the top persecution complex.

That's what they were told right before the Nazis tried to annihilate them too.

 

[Bunyip]

That's what they were told right before the Nazis tried to annihilate them too.

What a ridiculous comment.

 

[Bunyip]

Jews come from different places, most of the Jews in Israel are from Arab countries and one common thing that unites them all is that they all originate from Israel not Europe.

Love how you make up 'facts' as you go along. The vast majority of Jews are from Europe.

 

[Flankerl]

Love how you make up 'facts' as you go along. The vast majority of Jews are from Europe.

But what he wrote is true.
The majority of Israeli Jews are Sephardim or Mizrahim as both groups are counted as one.
This doesn't even address the fact that the "lines" between Ashkenazim, Sephardim/Mizrahim and even Beta Israel are becoming more blurred with every single day due to "intermarriage".

One of my Cousins is married to a very nice man born in Ethiopia, her father is Mizrahi(Libya) and her mother Ashkenazi.

What a ridiculous comment.

You are right, no one told them that they would be safe.

 

[Bunyip]

But what he wrote is true.
The majority of Israeli Jews are Sephardim or Mizrahim as both groups are counted as one.
This doesn't even address the fact that the "lines" between Ashkenazim, Sephardim/Mizrahim and even Beta Israel are becoming more blurred with every single day due to "intermarriage".

One of my Cousins is married to a very nice man born in Ethiopia, her father is Mizrahi(Libya) and her mother Ashkenazi.





You are right, no one told them that they would be safe.

LOL Instant fail - Godwin's law.

 

[rosends]

LOL Instant fail - Godwin's law.

as I understand it, Godwin's law involves the invoking of the Holocaust. Where in the post you quoted do you see reference to the Holocaust? Or am I misunderstanding the law?

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I see -- the secondary comment which harkens back to a comment about Nazis a few posts ago. but how does "Godwin's law" as a fail relate to the initial statistical point about lineage of Jews?

 

[Bunyip]

as I understand it, Godwin's law involves the invoking of the Holocaust. Where in the post you quoted do you see reference to the Holocaust? Or am I misunderstanding the law?

It applies to the first to resort to comparing things to the NAZI.

 

[rosends]

It applies to the first to resort to comparing things to the NAZI.

but the first didn't. that was a separate quote. The first makes a factual claim about the genealogy of a percentage of the Israeli Jewish population.

 

[Flankerl]

LOL Instant fail - Godwin's law.

Really that's your response to my entire post?

I don't even know why expected something else.

It applies to the first to resort to comparing things to the NAZI.

Which I didn't do.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What ever floats your boat.



Gee, why thank you Mr. Lucifer. Thank you for being the compass of morality for everyone.



You sure like to put words in people's mouths. Please quote where I said whites were superior to blacks? I asserted blacks had on average a lower IQ then whites and because of which explains the inability of blacks to successfully complete against whites in Western societies and why they disproportionality turn to crime. I also recall refuting every one of your premises and you were unable to refute mine, you cried like a baby, then re-logged on with your Catholic alter-ego. I proved my assertion and you resorted to ad hominem attacks. Do you still disbelieve evolution? You are just embarrassing yourself.

Whatever you say, Mr. White Power.

 

[Glaurung]

That's what they were told right before the Nazis tried to annihilate them too.

Except the most of the anti-Semitism going around today is in the form of lone radical Muslims, not ethnic Europeans or their governments. Most of us filthy gentiles in Western societies don't really care all that much about you, yet alone want to kill you for no explicable reason. No more than most of us care about the local Hindus or Sikhs or whatever other group.

Tone down the absurd overblown rhetoric of a new incoming Holocaust. Or perhaps you are just a bigoted tribalist.

 

[Tarheeler]

It applies to the first to resort to comparing things to the NAZI.

No, it doesn't.

The adage states that the longer any thread goes on, the chances of someone making an inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparison to Nazis or Hitler increases. And it certainly doesn't apply to threads that, by nature, already are closely related. Making the comparison in a thread that is centered on anti-Semitism, Israel, and the history of Jews in Europe wouldn't be "inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic".

Interesting enough, the Wikipedia entry on Godwin's Law even warns that it is sometimes "evoked" as a distraction or diversion.

 

[Bunyip]

No, it doesn't.

The adage states that the longer any thread goes on, the chances of someone making an inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparison to Nazis or Hitler increases. And it certainly doesn't apply to threads that, by nature, already are closely related. Making the comparison in a thread that is centered on anti-Semitism, Israel, and the history of Jews in Europe wouldn't be "inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic".

Interesting enough, the Wikipedia entry on Godwin's Law even warns that it is sometimes "evoked" as a distraction or diversion.

Well yes, it is a diversion in that I am not an anti-semite and have said nothing whatsoever suggestive of it. My objection was in fact that if the Jews retreat from the world it would be an incalculable loss - for which I am compared to the NAZI who killed half my family a generation ago.

I restate for clarity - my argument was that it would be an incalculable LOSS if the Jewish diaspora retreated to Israel.

 

[Flankerl]

for which I am compared to the NAZI

[citation needed]

...

 

[Zulk-Dharma]

To the OP, yes, you should. The comment was very nationalistic and bigoted, he made it out to look like the shootings in Denmark were Islamic terrorism, but that's simply a misuse of the word.

Firstly, the shootings in Denmark were simply shootings, a regular crime, not "terrorism," something I would relate to bigger, more harming, crimes, such as bombings or plane crashes.

The shooter was a Dane, a drug misuser, mentally disturbed and gang-related, he started to shoot two weeks after his release from prison, for a crime of stabbing a youth 19 times, back then he admitted it was due to paranoid and smoking hash - not very Islamic. He's dead now and can't speak for himself, but his history certainly does - it is without question that this crime was unrelated to terrorism nor Islam. Denmark is just looking for nuclear weapons.

Also, Benjamin called this for Islamic terrorism before we even identified the shooter, from our description "Arabic-looking, but light in complexion," the shooter could have very well been some Eastern European Jew!

Jews are protected in Denmark and live in villages, it's highly unlikely they will ever be harmed here.

 

[Tarheeler]

Well yes, it is a diversion in that I am not an anti-semite ....

I've read the whole thread, and I've not seen where anyone has accused you of being either a Nazi or an anti-Semite.
I've seen where some have implied you're a racist, and you have made some really ignorant statements, but that's about it.

And Flankerl's post that you "invoked" Godwin's Law on didn't imply anything.

 

[Bunyip]

I've read the whole thread, and I've not seen where anyone has accused you of being either a Nazi or an anti-Semite.
I've seen where some have implied you're a racist, and you have made some really ignorant statements, but that's about it.

And Flankerl's post that you "invoked" Godwin's Law on didn't imply anything.

CMike's post #324 was the post I invoked Godwins law on by the way.