Benjamin Netanyahu's statement actually offends me. Am I wromg to be offended?

[Bunyip]

No they don't.

Israel has now had three governments in that area.

Jews have lived and had a state there before Christians even existed.

So what? The Christians descend from the Jews. Who cares who came first?

 

[rosends]

The former obviously, it is a call to return home. No an expulsion.

OK, I was thrown off by the anonymous "loonatic" and the use of the word "Negros" which would indicate an outsider making the call.

 

[Bunyip]

OK, I was thrown off by the anonymous "loonatic" and the use of the word "Negros" which would indicate an outsider making the call.

I apologise if any found my use of the word 'negro' to be offensive - that was never my intention. I believed it to be the appropriate word.

 

[CMike]

CMike said: ↑
No they don't.

Israel has now had three governments in that area.

Jews have lived and had a state there before Christians even existed.

So what? The Christians descend from the Jews. Who cares who came first?

Now that's an extremely silly arguement.

I care.

 

[Bunyip]

CMike said: ↑
No they don't.

Israel has now had three governments in that area.

Jews have lived and had a state there before Christians even existed.


Now that's an extremely silly arguement.

I care.

It wasn't an argument, it was a question. So what if they came first? The Picts came before the Saxons in England, that doesn't give them a claim on it. Why would it?

 

[Juhurka]

If your first assertion was true, then logically the second assertion follows. But how did you come to the conclusion the Europe would easily surrender away its Jewish population?

WW2 is a great example, when Germans came put a gun to your head with a choice you or a Jew, majority will point to that Jew and I do not blame people for doing that, your life comes first. Few people will sacrifice their life and not give up the Jewish population but those few are so few.

In today's Europe politicians say all the right words, we will protect Jews in Europe. Regardless if they say what they mean or because of political correctness what is their instant solution? They put armed security guards in Jewish neighborhoods but what is the point? all it will do is try to shoot the next murderer before he shoots the next Jew but in no way will these measures eradicate the problem so the most logical conclusion that a Jew can come to is to leave.

 

[Bunyip]

WW2 is a great example, when Germans came put a gun to your head with a choice you or a Jew, majority will point to that Jew and I do not blame people for doing that, your life comes first. Few people will sacrifice their life and not give up the Jewish population but those few are so few.

In today's Europe politicians say all the right words, we will protect Jews in Europe. Regardless if they say what they mean or because of political correctness what is their instant solution? They put armed security guards in Jewish neighborhoods but what is the point? all it will do is try to shoot the next murderer before he shoots the next Jew but in no way will these measures eradicate the problem so the most logical conclusion that a Jew can come to is to leave.

No, letting the bigots and racists win is not the most logical conclusion. There are people who hate homosexuals, all the homosexuals suddenly leaving society is the worst possible outcome - not the best.

 

[Bunyip]

I don't think that Jews should be sacrificed so that Europeans can feel good about their society.

I don't think so either. The Jews are an important part of European culture, as I said before - if the Jewish diaspora were to return to Irsrael it would be an i calculable loss to global society.

Jews have been sacrificed for the sake of European projects too many times, no more. What will the Europeans do? build more museums in the name of the dead Jews for Democracy, freedom and against racism? logic tells you that you have more chances to win when you are the majority not minority and in Israel Jews are the majority.

Europeans never change they just pretend it never happened.

Jews ARE mostly Europeans. Anti-semitism is not universal to Europeans, no offence but you seem to be frighteningly bigoted and to have a grossly over the top persecution complex.

 

[Juhurka]

I don't think so either. The Jews are an important part of European culture, as I said before - if the Jewish diaspora were to return to Irsrael it would be an i calculable loss to global society. Jews ARE mostly Europeans. Anti-semitism is not universal to Europeans, no offence but you seem to be frighteningly bigoted and to have a grossly over the top persecution complex.

Persecution complex? not at all, I'm a realist. Europeans will always be Europeans, two faced people who will smile at you and back stab you when you turn around. European history is full of double deals, betrayals and slaughters, European guaranties are not even worth the paper they are written on not to mention their promises, history is full of such examples just ask the Russians, Asians or any other people who were at one point colonized by Europeans. With all the economic problems in Europe do you really think that they will care about the Jews more than their economy? it will exactly be the Jews and Homosexuals who will be sacrificed when Europeans take the streets.

Not all Jews are from Europe and Jew hatred is mostly a European invention, even conspiracies about Jews in the Arab world originate in Europe and Russia so yes, this idea of antisemitism is genuinely European.

 

[LuisDantas]

Persecution complex? not at all, I'm a realist. Europeans will always be Europeans, two faced people who will smile at you and back stab you when you turn around.

You are travelling through rather unhealthy territory there, courting with racism even.

 

[Bunyip]

Persecution complex? not at all, I'm a realist. Europeans will always be Europeans, two faced people who will smile at you and back stab you when you turn around. European history is full of double deals, betrayals and slaughters, European guaranties are not even worth the paper they are written on not to mention their promises, history is full of such examples just ask the Russians, Asians or any other people who were at one point colonized by Europeans. With all the economic problems in Europe do you really think that they will care about the Jews more than their economy? it will exactly be the Jews and Homosexuals who will be sacrificed when Europeans take the streets.

Not all Jews are from Europe

Most of them are.

and Jew hatred is mostly a European invention, even conspiracies about Jews in the Arab world originate in Europe and Russia so yes, this idea of antisemitism is genuinely European.

Yeah, you sure come across as racist, and paranoid. You seem to be the one blinded by hatred.

 

[Juhurka]

Most of them are. Yeah, you sure come across as racist, and paranoid. You seem to be the one blinded by hatred.

Is that all you can come up with? why do people always have to call you a racist when they have nothing to answer? I would have more respect for you if you would not answer at all or say something stupid but to call someone a racist without any reason is just very low.

 

[Bunyip]

Is that all you can come up with? why do people always have to call you a racist when they have nothing to answer? I would have more respect for you if you would not answer at all or say something stupid but to call someone a racist without any reason is just very low.

You're comment was unquestionably bigotry and racism, if you don't like being identified as a racist bigot - don't post bigoted and racist comments. And when you do post ridiculous, offensive, bigoted and racist comments find some cojones, strap them on and try not to whine too much when people object.

 

[jeager106]

OP.
You ARE wrong to be offended as no offense was meant by Net.
Only a fool takes offense where none was meant.
You are not a fool.

 

[Juhurka]

You're comment was unquestionably bigotry and racism, if you don't like being identified as a racist bigot - don't post bigoted and racist comments. And when you do post ridiculous, offensive, bigoted and racist comments find some cojones, strap them on and try not to whine too much when people object.

You still failed to reply but keep insulting me by calling me a racist, I assume that you are European and that means that my point got across, truth hurts and Europeans get offended when they hear the truth, they look at them self's from above as if they are a great civilization that brought enlightenment to the world but in reality Europeans did nothing but force the planet to pay for their egoistic life style and when time came to pay the bills they sacrificed Jews for it, you can call people names accuse them of hate or what ever but non of what I said was proven wrong so my point stands.

 

[Bunyip]

You still failed to reply but keep insulting me by calling me a racist, I assume that you are European and that means that my point got across, truth hurts and Europeans get offended when they hear the truth, you can call people names accuse them of hate or what ever but non of what I said was proven wrong so my point stands.

Most Jews are European in origin, you are so full of hate you are not making sense.

 

[Juhurka]

Most Jews are European in origin, you are so full of hate you are not making sense.

I'm a Jew but not European but in any case, Europeans make great speeches on how Jews are part of their societies but their actions have always been the opposite. If Jews are part of the European society how come after every attack politicians speak out by saying we will protect the Jews as if they are some foreign entity, why not say we will protect Europeans who are of Jewish faith? Europeans will always be the same and recent events have proven that such words as tolerance and Democracy is just a comfortable lie, wolf in a sheep's clothing.

 

[Juhurka]

Most Jews are European in origin, you are so full of hate you are not making sense.

Jews come from different places, most of the Jews in Israel are from Arab countries and one common thing that unites them all is that they all originate from Israel not Europe.

 

[Glaurung]

Europeans love dead Jews, they will send you to jail if you deny the Holocaust (the dead Jews that Europeans them self's killed)

The Nazis were German, Germans are European, therefore Europeans were Nazis.

Seems legit.

You are travelling through rather unhealthy territory there, courting with racism even

Pretend he's European talking about Semites, I don't think you'd be satisfied with accusations of mere courting.

Although I suspect he is a troll.

 

[Jumi]

I'm a Jew but not European but in any case, Europeans

Where do you draw the racism line? Do you trust Jews that are genetically European? Or is it just the religion you don't trust?