Benjamin Netanyahu's statement actually offends me. Am I wromg to be offended?

[Flankerl]

Did you remove all the pages from your "bible"? There's only 2851 references to "Israel", which can be found here: Bible, Revised Standard Version

[click on the link as it is set up so as you can see all of them in succession]

You do realise who you are talking to right?

 

[metis]

Should all Christians in the world move to Palestine because it was the land for Jesus.

I'm not going to tell all or any Christians where they supposedly must go to.

 

[metis]

No it isn't up to the people, let Palestinians then choose to immigrate to Britain, if by choice.

That's those who want to emigrate and also Britain's choice-- not mine.

 

[metis]

You do realise who you are talking to right?

Sorta. Seems the name doesn't strike a positive chord in my sub-conscious.

 

[Sees]

You do realise who you are talking to right?

Sorta. Seems the name doesn't strike a positive chord in my sub-conscious.

 

[Imaginary_Friends]

Nuts

What ever floats your boat.

Such hateful drivel from a full-blown racist who believes that white people are superior to black people is to be expected. He's just projecting his own racism onto other groups. It's a common thing with racists. Just look at cesspools like Stormfront, where they whine about black and Jewish racism but are astonishingly racist themselves.

Oh, and for proof of his racism: Any British National Party voters here? | Page 5 | ReligiousForums.com

Gee, why thank you Mr. Lucifer. Thank you for being the compass of morality for everyone.

Such hateful drivel from a full-blown racist who believes that white people are superior to black people is to be expected. He's just projecting his own racism onto other groups. It's a common thing with racists. Just look at cesspools like Stormfront, where they whine about black and Jewish racism but are astonishingly racist themselves.

Oh, and for proof of his racism: Any British National Party voters here? | Page 5 | ReligiousForums.com

You sure like to put words in people's mouths. Please quote where I said whites were superior to blacks? I asserted blacks had on average a lower IQ then whites and because of which explains the inability of blacks to successfully complete against whites in Western societies and why they disproportionality turn to crime. I also recall refuting every one of your premises and you were unable to refute mine, you cried like a baby, then re-logged on with your Catholic alter-ego. I proved my assertion and you resorted to ad hominem attacks. Do you still disbelieve evolution? You are just embarrassing yourself.

 

[Imaginary_Friends]

Am I really seeing what I think I am seeing?

What are you saying? Just because she is Jewish she can't believe having immigrants with a double-digit IQ that raise goats all their lives and have primitive, barbaric, savage customs and beliefs come to a civilized society is a bad idea?

 

[Bunyip]

Israel existed over 2000 years ago, so the above is incorrect. Regardless of the fact that after that time period the country did not exist, but the people Israel did exist in that region continually through today. It is a region where historically peoples came and went and came and... Well you get the picture.

Well yes, I know that. Eretz Yizrael was the name of that ancient kingdom, now the site of Israel.
It is also the historic place of origin for Christians, who have an equal claim.

 

[Bunyip]

But that notion, when suggested by a Jew, and agreed to by other Jews is categorically different from an outsider forcing Jews to leave, which you invoke in post 226. Helen Thomas, telling all Jews to "go back home to Poland" is quite different from Mr. Netanyahu saying "come back to Israel." If the "Jewish diaspora" gets a better offer then why shouldn't it leave of its own accord? After millennia of being kicked out one would think that the rest of the world would be happy that Jews would choose to leave willingly.

Yes, being forced out is different from choosing to, leave - what was your point?

 

[rosends]

Yes, being forced out is different from choosing to, leave - what was your point?

that bringing up one as a reaction to the other is senseless. Since you brought it up in post 226 and you see it as different, what was YOUR point?

 

[Bunyip]

that bringing up one as a reaction to the other is senseless. Since you brought it up in post 226 and you see it as different, what was YOUR point?

I just checked out my post 226, and it says nothing of the sort. You must have cofused me for somebody else.

 

[rosends]

I just checked out my post 226, and it says nothing of the sort. You must have cofused me for somebody else.

so in post 226, 10:12 PM, you didn't write

" Imagine if some loonatic called for all Negros to return to Africa, or all Chinese to return to China! Societies all over the world have Jewish populations, and these people contribute enormously to those societies - if all the worlds Jews retreat to Israel to be besieged, it would be an incalculable tragedy and loss to global civilisation.

Netenyahu has lost his mind, he has fallen to, paranoid delusion.

Maybe all the blonds should return to Scandinavia? And the Christians to Jerusalem?"

thus conflating and equating the 2 scenarios? Really?

 

[Bunyip]

so in post 226, 10:12 PM, you didn't write

" Imagine if some loonatic called for all Negros to return to Africa, or all Chinese to return to China! Societies all over the world have Jewish populations, and these people contribute enormously to those societies - if all the worlds Jews retreat to Israel to be besieged, it would be an incalculable tragedy and loss to global civilisation.

Netenyahu has lost his mind, he has fallen to, paranoid delusion.

Maybe all the blonds should return to Scandinavia? And the Christians to Jerusalem?"

thus conflating and equating the 2 scenarios? Really?

But in both scenarios they are being called back to their homeland, they are not forced out. No idea where you got that from.

 

[rosends]

But in both scenarios they are being called back to their homeland, they are not forced out. No idea where you got that from.

so your phrase "if some loonatic called for all Negros to return to Africa, or all Chinese to return to China" is the same as Netanyahu telling European Jews that they will be welcome and protected in Israel (which is precisely what the Israeli declaration of Independence says) and categorically different from what Helen Thomas said?

 

[Bunyip]

so your phrase "if some loonatic called for all Negros to return to Africa, or all Chinese to return to China" is the same as Netanyahu telling European Jews that they will be welcome and protected in Israel (which is precisely what the Israeli declaration of Independence says) and categorically different from what Helen Thomas said?

In all examples I specified that they were called back, not forced to return - you just made that bit up.

 

[rosends]

In all examples I specified that they were called back, not forced to return - you just made that bit up.

So, again (and please, a simple answer will clarify), in your statement, does "if some loonatic called for all Negros to return to Africa, or all Chinese to return to China" equate to Netanyahu's invitation to welcome Jews to Israel or to Thomas's demand that Jews "go home to Poland"?

 

[Juhurka]

This is his statement:
"Extremist Islamic terrorism has struck Europe again, this time in Denmark. We send our condolences to the Danish people and to the Jewish community in Denmark. Jews have been murdered again on European soil only because they were Jews and this wave of terrorist attacks – including murderous anti-Semitic attacks – is expected to continue.

Of course, Jews deserve protection in every country but we say to Jews, to our brothers and sisters: Israel is your home. We are preparing and calling for the absorption of mass immigration from Europe. I would like to tell all European Jews and all Jews wherever they are: 'Israel is the home of every Jew.'

Today we will submit to the Cabinet a NIS 180 million plan to encourage the absorption of immigrants from France, Belgium and Ukraine. We will submit additional plans later. To the Jews of Europe and to the Jews of the world I say that Israel is waiting for you with open arms."

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1032496376765107

What seems to have happened is that a lone gunman (apparently from an arabic background) walked up to a meeting/dedate about freedom of speach and fired a semi automatic weapon at the participants.
He killed one of the participants of the meeting, a film instructor Finn Nørgaard, age 55. And wounded 3 policemen.

He then escaped by stealing a car from a woman, drove for a while, got out and called for a taxi.

After the taxi driver dropped off the shooter the taxi driver called the police. (I can't help thinking about the fact that many of the taxi drivers that drive around and pick up the drunks on saturday are muslim)

Later the shooter started shooting neer a synagogue. He killed a young man Dan Uzan, age 37 standing guard at the door at the Bat mitzva of a young girl. Two policemen were also there and they were both wounded.

Later the police shot and killed the man they assume is the shooter.

So we have one lone lunatic with an arabic background, one danish film instructor, one danish woman, one taxi driver (who when I picture him looks very middle eastern), one danish jew and lots of danish police, and somehow to Benjamin Netanyahu this is an Extremist Islamic terrorist attack on Jews.

I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised that Netanyahu grabs this event and tries to use it in support of his own political agenda, and I am not surprised.

I am however offended. Im I wrong to be so?

Edit: Oh! An I forgot that one of the speekers at the debate meeting was Lars Vilks (Swedish guy who made Mohammed cartoons). Again not very jewish as far as I can tell.

With all do respect to your opinion but if you put your self in Jews place in Europe you will quickly realize that Europe has already proven that when push comes to shove they will surrender their Jewish population in a heart beet so why shouldn't Nataniyahu say what he said?.

In order for the European politicians to fix the Jew hatred in Europe they will need to do some hard investigative work in the Muslim community and that of cause is not possible so Jews in Europe are left with only one option, immigrate.

 

[suncowiam]

With all do respect to your opinion but if you put your self in Jews place in Europe you will quickly realize that Europe has already proven that when push comes to shove they will surrender their Jewish population in a heart beet so why shouldn't Nataniyahu say what he said?.

In order for the European politicians to fix the Jew hatred in Europe they will need to do some hard investigative work in the Muslim community and that of cause is not possible so Jews in Europe are left with only one option, immigrate.

If your first assertion was true, then logically the second assertion follows. But how did you come to the conclusion the Europe would easily surrender away its Jewish population?

 

[Bunyip]

So, again (and please, a simple answer will clarify), in your statement, does "if some loonatic called for all Negros to return to Africa, or all Chinese to return to China" equate to Netanyahu's invitation to welcome Jews to Israel or to Thomas's demand that Jews "go home to Poland"?

The former obviously, it is a call to return home. No an expulsion.

 

[CMike]

Well yes, I know that. Eretz Yizrael was the name of that ancient kingdom, now the site of Israel.
It is also the historic place of origin for Christians, who have an equal claim.

No they don't.

Israel has now had three governments in that area.

Jews have lived and had a state there before Christians even existed.