Bible Coruption.

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by Terry Watkins​

God has placed a lot of importance upon His words.
Matthew 24:35 reads, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my WORDS shall not pass away."
Psalms 138:2 says, ". . . for thou hast magnified thy WORD above all thy name."
Psalms 119:89 says, "For ever, O LORD, thy WORD is settled in heaven."
The spiritual life-blood of the human race is the word of God.
· It brings salvation: "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God. . ." (1 Peter 1:23)
· It produces faith: ". . . faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Romans 10:17).
· It produces spiritual growth: ". . .desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:" (1 Peter 2:2)​

Jesus Christ said in John 6:63, ". . .the words that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE."
And the first time Satan attacks the human race was a direct attack on the word of God!
Genesis 3:1 says, "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, YEA, HATH GOD SAID. . .?"
Satan planted a small seed of doubt into the mind of Eve. And as Eve questioned the truthfulness of God's Word - the fall of mankind was only a bite away.​

Satan's aim of attack hasn't changed!​

In Luke 8, Jesus Christ tells the parable of the sower, verses 11,12 read, "Now the parable is this: The SEED is the word of God. . . THEN COMETH THE DEVIL, and taketh away the word. . ."​

Satan knows - if he can supplant even a small seed of doubt in God's word - MANKIND WILL LOOK ELSEWHERE! ​

Never in history has such doubt and confusion over the Bible existed as is today. And nothing has flamed the fire of confusion and doubt over the Bible more than the scores of different translations flooding the scene. Time magazine (April 20, 1981 p.62) reports, ". . . there is an UNPRECEDENTED CONFUSION of choices in Bibles. Never have so many major new translations been on the market." Since 1880, over 200 different translations have appeared. Every six months a new English version appears! ​

NO WONDER PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED! ​

The question has to be asked - is God the author of this flood of new versions? Is God the author of CONFUSION in His word? 1 Corinthians 14:33, clearly states, "God is NOT the author of CONFUSION."​

BUT SATAN IS! He knows, if he can plant the smallest seed of doubt and confusion - that individual will not take God's word serious!​

God promised to preserve His word...​

God promised in Psalms 12:7 that He would preserve His word, "Thou shalt KEEP them, O LORD, thou shalt PRESERVE them from this generation FOR EVER."​

And God keeps His promise! I believe, without a doubt, the King James Bible is the preserved word of God. And the new versions are satanic counterfeits to cast doubt, cause confusion and ATTACK THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!
And I'm going to prove that on the remainder of this message! If you've come this far, please keep reading - what you're about to read - may be the most important words YOU WILL EVER READ!​

Are the new versions different?​

Most people believe the different versions are basically the same. They believe the newer versions are just "harmless" updating of words and made easier to understand.​

NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH!​

One of the clearest verses in the Bible proclaiming the deity of Jesus Christ, that Jesus was God in the flesh, is 1 Timothy 3:16. The King James Bible reads, "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH. . ." The King James says, clearly, "GOD was manifest in the flesh".

The New International Version (NIV) says, "HE appeared in a body". The NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV, etc, change "GOD" to "HE". "He appeared in a body"? Big deal! Everyone has "appeared in a body"! The KJV is clear and definite, "GOD was manifest in the flesh". "He" is a pronoun that refers to a noun or antecedent. There is no antecedent in the context! The statement does NOT even make grammatical sense! ​

AN ATTACK ON THE DEITY OF JESUS CHRIST! ​

In Philippians 2:6, The KJV again, clearly declares the deity of Jesus Christ: "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD" The new translations completely re-word the verse to deny the deity of Jesus Christ! The NIV, RSV, NASV, NRSV, NKJV(1979 ed.), etc. reads, "Who, being in very nature God, DID NOT CONSIDER EQUALITY WITH GOD something to be grasped,"​

Someone is attacking the most important doctrine in the Bible - the deity of Jesus Christ!​

WHO WOULD DO SUCH A THING?​

They attack the virgin birth!​

In Luke 2:33, The King James reads, "And JOSEPH and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him." The NIV, NASV, NRSV, etc. reads, "The CHILD'S FATHER and mother marveled at what was said about him." The "CHILD'S FATHER"? Do you believe that Joseph was Jesus's father? Not if you believe the virgin birth! Not if you believe John 3:16, that Jesus Christ was the Son of God! A subtle, attack at the virgin birth.​

Think these are just isolated cases? NOT BY A LONG SHOT! There are over 6,000 changes!​

They remove the Blood!​

Consider Colossians 1:14: the KJV reads, "In whom we have redemption THROUGH HIS BLOOD, even the forgiveness of sins:" The NIV reads, "In whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins." The NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV and co. rip the precious words "THROUGH HIS BLOOD" out! Friend, salvation is only "THROUGH HIS BLOOD". That old song says, "What can wash away my sins, NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS!"​

 

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They attack John 3:16!​

And something has to be done with John 3:16! So the NIV and company reads, "For God so loved the world that he gave his ONE AND ONLY SON, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" - removing the critical word "BEGOTTEN"! If Jesus was "the one and only" then what happens to the wonderful promise to believers like 1 John 3:2, "Beloved, now are we the sons of God. . ."? AN OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION APPEARS!

They tell lies!

A better translation! Easier to understand! BY A LIE!​

Psalms 119:160 says, "Thy word is TRUE. . ." John 17:17 says, ". . . thy word is TRUTH." Titus 1:2 clearly says, ". . . God that CANNOT LIE"​

How could the God of Titus 1:2 be the God of Mark 1:2,3 in these new versions? Either the translators of the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV, "crowd" can't read or have never read Isaiah nor Malachi (which is likely!) or somebody is deliberately tampering with God's Word to DISCREDIT IT! ​

Who would do such a thing?​

I'll give you a hint - he's called the "A LIAR, and the father of it" in John 8:44!​

Oh, by the way, did you think David killed Goliath? Not according to the NIV, NRSV, NASV, and "boys". In 2 Samuel 21:19, they erroneously read, ". . . Elhanan son of JaareOregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, who had a spear with a shaft like a weaver's rod."​

They make Lucifer and Jesus Christ - THE SAME!​

In Isaiah 14:12, the father of the new versions removes his mask. The King James reads, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O LUCIFER, son of the morning!. . ." The NIV, NASV, NRSV etc. reads, "How you have fallen from heaven, O MORNING STAR, son of the dawn. . ." The new per-versions change "Lucifer" to "morning star". According to Revelation 22:16, the "morning star" is the Lord Jesus Christ! What blasphemy! What perversion! And there's no basis whatsoever for the change! The Hebrew word for star (kokab) is not even found in Isaiah 14:12! Is there any doubt who is the "daddy" of these new versions? ​

They take out hell!​

If Satan is the author of these new versions, one subject he will aim his attack, is the place the Bible calls hell. And the new versions go "into loony land" removing it!​

Many times they change "hell" to "grave" or "death", but the word "hell" is far and few in the new versions! Like Psalm 9:17: in the King James reads, "The wicked shall be turned into HELL. . ." The NIV, reads, "The wicked return to the GRAVE. . ." We ALL "return to the GRAVE"!​

Many times when the new versions come to the obvious word "hell" - they replace it with the Greek word "Hades" or Hebrew "Sheol"! (See Matt. 16:18, Luke 16:23, Acts 2:31 and many, many more, the NEW King James does this 29 times!) Rather than translate into the obvious word hell - THEY REFUSE TO TRANSLATE IT! And this is a better translation? And these new versions are "easier to read" and "understand"? Who in their right mind thinks Hades or Sheol is "easier to understand" than hell? Why didn't they leave in the Greek word "Ouranos" for heaven? It's obvious! Because someone is trying to remove and cast doubt on the place called hell! In Isaiah 14:15, the King James Bible condemns Lucifer to hell: "Yet thou shalt be brought down to HELL . . ." The new versions refuse to send Lucifer to hell! The NIV reads, "But you are brought down to the GRAVE. . ." The NASV, NRSV, NEW King James (NKJV) places him in "Sheol"!​

hmm. . . I wonder which one the Devil prefers?​

The Lord's or The Devil's Prayer?

 

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An alarming display of Satanic perversion is found in Luke 11. The "The Lord's Prayer" is subtly (see 2 Cor. 11:3) transformed into "The Devil's Prayer".​

The King James Bible in Luke 11:2-4, reads, ". . .Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil." Incredibly, the NIV, NASV, NRSV, etc. take out: "WHICH ART IN HEAVEN. . . Thy will be done, AS IN HEAVEN, so in earth. . . but DELIVER US FROM EVIL." Heaven is completely removed! The "father" of the new versions is NOT IN HEAVEN and DOES NOT DELIVER FROM EVIL!​

I wonder who it could be? (hint: see John 8:44)​

Are you getting the picture? Do you see how subtil (see Genesis 3:1), seemingly, harmless the changes are - AND YET HOW DEADLY THEY ARE TO THE INTEGRITY OF GOD'S WORD! ​

They attack the Lord Jesus Christ! ​

They attack the plan of salvation!​

They glorify Lucifer!​

And they deny hell!​

Yes friend. Satan has launched an attack on your Bible!​

YOU'D BETTER BELIEVE IT!​

Did you know, the King James Bible is the only English Bible in the world that has a command to "study" your Bible! That's right! 2 Timothy 2:15, "STUDY to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" - has been changed in every English Bible on the face of this earth! BUT ONE! ​

They take out whole verses!

In Acts 8:37, the King James reads, "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV and "buddies" reads - ZIP! NOTHING! THEY TOOK THE WHOLE VERSE OUT! One of the best verses in the Bible on salvation through Jesus Christ and they rip it out! Why?​

Why is it that every time a sinner is saved by grace in the book of Acts - THEY ATTACK IT? In Acts 9:5,6: Paul is getting saved, and they take out 20 words! In Acts 16:31 when the Philippian jailor is getting saved, the word "CHRIST" is delicately removed! Why do these new bibles so fiercely attack God's wonderful plan of salvation?​

WHO WOULD DO SUCH A THING?​

Several times the Lord warns against "adding and taking away" from His Word.
· Deuteronomy 4:2 reads: "YE SHALL NOT ADD unto the word which I command you, NEITHER SHALL YE DIMINISH ought from it . . ."
· Proverbs 30::6, reads, "ADD THOU NOT unto his words . . ."
· And just in case you missed it, GOD'S LAST WARNING is Revelation 22:18,19, ". . . IF ANY MAN SHALL ADD unto these things. . . And if any man shall TAKE AWAY FROM THE WORDS of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life. . ."
And despite these clear warnings, the new versions, take out and add text, over and over! One of the greatest verses in all the Bible, Matthew 18:11: "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost." - THEY TAKE IT OUT! ​

WHY!​

They take out: Romans 16:24, Mark 11:25, Acts 15:34, Luke 23:17, Acts 28:29, John 5:4, Mark 7:16, 9:44,46 and many, many more - as your Bible is literally cut apart!​

Jesus Christ says, in Luke 4:4, ". . . It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD OF GOD." Not according to the NIV, NASV, NRSV and crew! In fact, the even "tear out"the last half of Luke 4:4 - "BUT BY EVERY WORD OF GOD"!​

Yes, but the new versions have the deity in other places. They contain the plan of salvation in other places. There is good in them. Did you know ONE tiny, microscopic AIDS virus will "defile" a whole batch of perfectly "good" blood? It has some "good" in it - BUT IT WOULD BE DEADLY!​

Would you "inject" it into your child, loved one or congregation? And would you "inject" them with a Bible that is "defiled" because it has some "good"? It could be far more costly than their physical life - THEIR ETERNAL SOUL! Galatians 5:9 says, "A LITTLE leaven leaveneth THE WHOLE lump."​

But aren't the new versions easier to read? ​

One of the lies used to promote these per-versions is "they're easier to read and understand". But according to a Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level research study, The King James Bible is by far the easiest! Out of 26 different categories - the King James graded easier in a whopping 23! (New Age Bible Versions, Riplinger, pp.195-209) ​

 

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But haven't "older and more reliable" manuscripts been discovered? ​

But haven't "older and more reliable manuscripts been discovered" since the King James Bible. Dr. Sam Gipp writes, "The fact is, that the King James translators had ALL OF THE READINGS available to them that modern critics have available to them today." (The Answer Book, Gipp, p.110) Not only that, but most of the recent discoveries support the King James Bible! And furthermore, it is a well documented fact that 85 - 90 per cent of all readings agree with the King James Bible! SO WHY ALL THE CHANGES? See Genesis 3:1.​

What about the "ORIGINALS"?​

Your King James Bible is attacked by preachers, some intentional and some simply out of ignorance, by "correcting" it with "THE ORIGINALS". There is one itsy-bitsy problem. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "THE ORIGINALS"! We don't have the "originals" Moses, or Paul, or David wrote. There are no set of "ORIGINALS" on the face of this earth! The ghost of "THE ORIGINALS" is a LIE! See John 8:44! ​

Preachers, by the thousands, will stand weekly in the pulpit and "correct" your King James Bible by saying, "This is an unfortunate translation" or "a better reading would be" or "this word in the 'Greek' can also be translated. . ." Friend, where is the Lord God? The One that "spoke" the worlds into existence - can He not preserve His word as He promised in Psalm 12:7 and Matthew 24:35? Did God Almighty NOT know what He was "inspiring"? Does the Lord need these "Bible correctors" to "help" Him "straighten-out" His word?​

As God promised, He has preserved His word for the English people in the King James Bible. Proverbs 16:10 says, "A divine sentence is in the lips of the KING. . ." Ecclesiastes 8:4 says, "Where the word of a KING is, there is power . . ." King James. "James" is not an English word but a Hebrew word. Did you know the Hebrew word for James is Jacob! You'll never guess what Psalms 147:19 says, "He showeth His WORD unto JACOB . . ."​

2 Timothy 2:9, reads, " . . . the word of God is NOT BOUND." Anybody can freely (there's that word Eve omitted in Genesis 3:2) print, distribute, and reproduce the King James Bible, without asking anybody for permission! All other translations are "bound" by © copyright laws. New American Standard, - copyright© Lockman Foundation, New International Version - copyright© New York International Bible Society, New King James Version - copyright© Thomas Nelson Publishers. Who with a brain, would seriously think the word of Almighty God is "BOUND" by copyright laws? ​

IF YOU HAVE A KING JAMES BIBLE​

YOU HAVE THE WORD OF GOD! (Im English - added by me)​

And don't let anybody take it from you!​

Dr. Frank Logsdon was co-founder of The New American Standard Version. As people begin confronting Dr. Logsdon on some the NASV's serious omissions and errors. He re-examined the evidence and this was his verdict:
"I must under God denounce every attachment to the New American Standard Version. I'm afraid I'm in trouble with the Lord . . . I wrote the format . . . I wrote the preface . . . I'm in trouble; . . . its wrong, terribly wrong; its frighteningly wrong . . .The deletions are absolutely frightening . . . there are so many . . . Are we so naive that we do not suspect Satanic deception in all of this?"​

Dr. Frank Logsdon
Co-founder, New American Standard Version​

 

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Just a note. There is text in the King James that was never written by the writers of the New Testament.

A lot of Mnuscripts was found after 1611 thus above statements is not true

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I find it hard to believe that an educated person would author the above spam.

EDIT: Wow, it looks like Dr. Logston lost his marbles at the end of his life.

 

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Dr. Frank Logsdon was co-founder of The New American Standard Version. As people begin confronting Dr. Logsdon on some the NASV's serious omissions and errors. He re-examined the evidence and this was his verdict:
"I must under God denounce every attachment to the New American Standard Version. I'm afraid I'm in trouble with the Lord . . . I wrote the format . . . I wrote the preface . . . I'm in trouble; . . . its wrong, terribly wrong; its frighteningly wrong . . .The deletions are absolutely frightening . . . there are so many . . . Are we so naive that we do not suspect Satanic deception in all of this?"​

Dr. Frank Logsdon​

Co-founder, New American Standard Version​

This is a lie. There is no Dr. Frank Logsdon who had anything to do with the NASV.

note: http://vintage.aomin.org/lockman.html

note 2: http://www.lockman.org/tlf/tlfhistory.php

 

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I find it hard to believe that an educated person would author the above spam.

EDIT: Wow, it looks like Dr. Logston lost his marbles at the end of his life.

Wow its my mate angellous again long time no hear, how is going my brother?

Just wondering if you have done a comparison of the evidence, regardless as to your opinions of the authours intellect??

 

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This is a lie. There is no Dr. Frank Logsdon who had anything to do with the NASV.

Dr. Frank Logsdon and the NASB... according to KJVO's - BaptistBoard.com

I have three witnesses to Logsdon's involvement with the NASV that would stand up in a court of law: First, there is Logsdon's own spoken testimony which we have on audio cassette. This has been authenticated by Christians who knew him. Second, we know that Logsdon's widow in Wheaton, Illinois, has authenticated his testimony in regard to the NASV. Third, we have a copy of a letter from Logsdon to Cecil Carter of Prince George, British Columbia, June 9, 1977. I have known Brother Carter for many years. He is a faithful elder in a Brethren assembly and a respected member of his community.

Part of the problem has been caused by some who have made claims for Logsdon which he did not himself make. Note that Logsdon never said that he actually worked on the NASV or the Amplified Bible translation or that he was an actual employee of the Lockman Foundation. He did not claim to be "co-founder" of the NASV. He said he was a friend of Lockman and as such was invited to come out to California and help launch the venture. According to his own testimony and that of his widow, that is precisely what he did. Logsdon was a highly respected Bible teacher and author, and there is certainly no reason why he would have lied about these matters. He had nothing to gain thereby. To the contrary, he was considered a nut by many of his peers for taking a stand against the modern versions.

It would appear that he never claimed to be Co-Founder - but he had a lot to do with it and was publically opposed to the new versions. Anyone can google disinformation on the web - the thing is the "spam" as you call it is a collection of scriptures you can research and varify for yourself, you have done it for one already do it for all of them, then come back and call it spam.

I find it hard to believe that some one who claims to have a PHD in New Testament Bible studies is so vitriolic about this information.

I believe the people you "preach" to on a Sunday morning would be exceedingly interested to know that you think "God died for Gods sins", and that the bible is just a collection of myths.

I would far rather know these credentials than what letters anyone has after their name.

 

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They make Lucifer and Jesus Christ - THE SAME!​

In Isaiah 14:12, the father of the new versions removes his mask. The King James reads, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O LUCIFER, son of the morning!. . ." The NIV, NASV, NRSV etc. reads, "How you have fallen from heaven, O MORNING STAR, son of the dawn. . ." The new per-versions change "Lucifer" to "morning star". According to Revelation 22:16, the "morning star" is the Lord Jesus Christ! What blasphemy! What perversion! And there's no basis whatsoever for the change! The Hebrew word for star (kokab) is not even found in Isaiah 14:12!​

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The hebrew word for the morning star, however, is. To quote myself

In the old testament up until around the time of Jesus, there was no supremely evil being, and satan (stn-שָׂטַ&#1503 was more or less an angelic office. The only reference to Lucifer in the Old Testament is Isiah 14:12 (the passage is probably refering to Nebuchadnezzer) where the word is day star (Hebrew Helal). When tranlated into Latin (in the vulgate), the line reads "Quomodo cecidifti de caelo lucifer" lucifer meaning roughly "light-bearer." Lucifer was the Roman "morning star" and corresponded fairly well to Helal, hence the translation.

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Many times when the new versions come to the obvious word "hell" - they replace it with the Greek word "Hades" or Hebrew "Sheol"! (See Matt. 16:18, Luke 16:23, Acts 2:31 and many, many more, the NEW King James does this 29 times!)

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Which makes it more accurate, as the original greek and hebrew words do not carry the same meaning as the english "hell."
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Your King James Bible is attacked by preachers, some intentional and some simply out of ignorance, by "correcting" it with "THE ORIGINALS". There is one itsy-bitsy problem. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "THE ORIGINALS"! We don't have the "originals" Moses, or Paul, or David wrote. There are no set of "ORIGINALS" on the face of this earth! The ghost of "THE ORIGINALS" is a LIE! See John 8:44!

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That's true. We don't have the originals. But neither did the KJV translators. We do, however, have earlier and better manuscripts than they had, and far more of them, from which to reconstruct as best as possible the original text.​

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Just a note. There is text in the King James that was never written by the writers of the New Testament.

A lot of Mnuscripts was found after 1611 thus above statements is not true

The above statements are varifiable by opening a king james bible and an NIV and comparing. Saying that the above information is not true regarding the comparisons is incorrect, you may not like the writers style and passion, but the comparions are all there to be witnessed.

If you have any information about the KJV post it. For example lets the see the evidence of "a lot of the manscripts was found after the 1611"

Just for the record, Im not a King James only zealot - Im simply pointing out the differnce in the KJV and the other versions. Im not stating that the KJV is the b all and end all.

In fact my opionion is that reading God's word in any English version is comparible to watching a black n white TV as opposed to colour. But with the KJV (until someone can convince me other wise) I'm quite comfortable that I am watching the same chanel at least.

 

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In fact my opionion is that reading God's word in any English version is comparible to watching a black n white TV as opposed to colour.

So you read greek and hebrew?

 

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So you read greek and hebrew?

No unfortnately not, but Ihave a concordance of every Engliosh word in the bible in the greek and hebrew for use in getting a fuller understanding of the meanings.

IMHO God gave his word to us in Greek and Hebrew because of the beauty and discriptiveness of these languages (among other reasons) From this I make an educated guess that any English version is, well, black and white, as opposed to the colour of these beautiful languages.

Another example would be understanding the sense of humour of another culture, in some cases we never will even when we learn to speak the language, we will still never quite get the subtetly of humour and tone in the voice etc etc. I think we get the message but I'm certian we miss a lot -

 

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No unfortnately not, but Ihave a concordance of every Engliosh word in the bible in the greek and hebrew for use in getting a fuller understanding of the meanings.

I'm praying you don't use Thayer or Strong. I would suggest buying a LEXICON for better understanding of the meanings, rather than a concordance, which is meant primarily to "concord" with specific translations, e.g. the KJV, rather than give definitions. For greek, the most comprehensive lexicon of Biblical/ Koine Greek in English is the BDAG.

 

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I'm praying you don't use Thayer or Strong. I would suggest buying a LEXICON for better understanding of the meanings, rather than a concordance, which is meant primarily to "concord" with specific translations, e.g. the KJV, rather than give definitions. For greek, the most comprehensive lexicon of Biblical/ Koine Greek in English is the BDAG.

Thanks very much for that Oberon, I must confess to using Strongs. :sorry1:

What is the best one for Hebrew?

 

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What bible version do you recommend? And Im interested to know what the better versions are. Hey - like anyone else, I just want the truth, I'm just throwing this information out there, I only found it last week, and quite frankly it blew my doors off.

I have a version of the New Testament that I felt was the most accuarte version in the world, until I did the comparisons outlined in this info. I was gutted, but at least I face up to the facts and don't have hissy fit about it.

I would expect other Christians to be interested. I wasn't, on the other hand expecting, fisty cuffs from other Christians. That's been a surprise.

I'm not levelling this at you by the way - just passing comment.

 

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Wow.
I dare say that this is the first time I have ever seen a four post circular argument.

I may venture at some stage to suggest that you go and find a round a room and sit in the corner, but I wouldnt say that out loud. Did I just say that out loud?

By the way I just smashed my computer screen with a hammer trying to kill that insect. Thanks for that. You got me good. :clap

 

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Did not realize this was in a Sanctuary.

 

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What's a sanctuary?

 

[Oberon]

Thanks very much for that Oberon, I must confess to using Strongs. :sorry1:

What is the best one for Hebrew?

I'm not an expert in Hebrew, sorry. I used what my university had, and I used my various textbooks when I had to read Hebrew for research. I can probably find out for you though.