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Bible Coruption.

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It is very sad to see what has been taken out of the Bible. That's why I love the Book of Mormon :). It has not gone through the dark ages. Also, thankfully God has sent His Spirit, so that we can gain information right from the source without having to rely quite as heavily on a book.

The Book of Mormon - by Jamie Turner - Helium
 

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Question Everything
cannot show how God preserved his word from the originals to the KVJ, they really do not have a leg to stand on, right?
I mean, that is the core of the argument, right, that God preserved his holy word

God preserved His word, He preserved other texts above and beyond the Bible.

http://www.helium.com/items/1871661-book-of-mormon-lost-scriptures-open-cannon
Ex. 24:7 …and he took the “book of the covenant”, and read in the audience of the people…
Num. 21:14 14 Wherefore it is said in the “book of the wars of the LORD”, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon,
Josh. 10:13 (2 Sam. 1:18 also references the book of Jasher) 13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the “book of Jasher”?
1 Kgs. 11:41 And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are they not written in “the book of the acts of Solomon?”
1 Chr. 29:29 Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the “book of Samuel the seer”, and in “the book of Nathan the prophet”, and in the “book of Gad the seer”
2 Chr 9:29 29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in “the book of Nathan the prophet”, and in “the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite”, and in “the visions of Iddo the seer” against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?
2 Chr. 12:15 Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in “the book of Shemaiah the prophet”, and of “Iddo the seer” concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually.
2 Chr. 13:22, And the rest of “the acts of Abijah”, and his ways, and his sayings, are written in “the story of the prophet Iddo”.
2 Chr. 20:34 Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, first and last, behold, they are written in “the book of Jehu” the son of Hanani, who is mentioned in the book of the kings of Israel.
2 Chr. 33:19 His prayer also, and how God was intreated of him, and all his sin, and his trespass, and the places wherein he built high places, and set up groves and graven images, before he was humbled: behold, they are written among “the sayings of the seers”.

The above are only a few of the Biblical passages which refer to books of scriptures written by prophets, seers, and revelators that are not currently contained within the Bible.

clearly the Bible is not complete. Why do people confine themselves to just using the Bible?
 
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IKNOWNUFFINK

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I just can't believe that a reasonable person would be convinced by the OP. I thought you were joking, so I was kidding around, too.

I think that the KJV is a beautiful translation, and better than most that I've read. But it's a translation of just a few texts. It doesn't consider about 30,000 other texts, including Codex Vaticanus, Alexandrinus, and Siniacus.

The NIV is the most readable version - if you read the Bible out loud all the time like I do, the words are much smoother.

I think that the NRSV and the ESV are the most literal translations that follow the oldest texts. The Oxford annotated NRSV is the best study Bible, IMHO.

Well it only took three days of headbanging to get some reason from you? And you cant believe a reasonable Christian would find the OP of great interest??

I know I'm an incredibly funny, handsome, witty guy, but unless you are a psychic mind reader as well as a person who believes the bible is a selection of myths, it's probably best not to assume someone is joking, which frankly I don't accept as a reasonable excuse for three days of mockery given the fact that you are well aware that I have found you incredibly confrontational with me from day one/post one - so much so that I have raised it in the site feedback section.

Nice try. Where's my free car?
 
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angellous_evangellous

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Well it only took three days of headbanging to get some reason from you? And you cant believe a reasonable Christian would find the OP of great interest??

I know I'm an incredibly funny, handsome, witty guy, but unless you are a psychic mind reader as well as a person who believes the bible is a selection of myths, it's probably best not to assume someone is joking, which frankly I don't accept as a reasonable excuse for three days of mockery given the fact that you are well aware that I have found you incredibly confrontational with me from day one/post one - so much so that I have raised it in the site feedback section.

Nice try. Where's my free car?

There were smilies your post. :shrug:
 

IKNOWNUFFINK

Active Member
The non-King Jimmy only-ist buggyman! mauahah

:grill:

However, given that NRSV is covered as one of the usual suspects in the OP, and the fact that I have written off my beloved Ivan Panin version, I doubt whether the NSRV Oxford study version is much cop, even if it does have a posh accent. Throw another prawn on the barby. Teeshh heeessh sheeesssh sssshhhh essssh.
 
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Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I love the KJV of the bible. I love reading it, partly because I am a big fan of English literature, including literature from the KJ era. It is beautifully written, and probably the most poetic of common versions available today.

I did an interesting study of the New Testament once, not that long ago. I have a bible which is eight translations, side by side. I read through the entire New Testament, several verses at a time, reading from each translation.

Wow, what an experience! (It was great, by the way - and a good refresher on all those stories of the early church.)

To hear people debate the authenticity of the bible, and various translations, these days, one would think that the common versions were practically opposite each other in meaning, that they were chock full of differences and ommissions and additions - thus lacking validity.

I found quite the opposite to be the case. I was absolutely amazed at how closely aligned the 8 versions were (these included the KJV by the way). I could not see how ANYONE who read a complete passage from ANY of those most popular versions, could walk away with different applications from different versions.

Of course, if one cherry picks verses and pulls them out of context, one can twist them to mean just about anything. But my point is that the 8 versions were striking in their consistency, rather than in their differences.
 

IKNOWNUFFINK

Active Member
I love the KJV of the bible. I love reading it, partly because I am a big fan of English literature, including literature from the KJ era. It is beautifully written, and probably the most poetic of common versions available today.

I did an interesting study of the New Testament once, not that long ago. I have a bible which is eight translations, side by side. I read through the entire New Testament, several verses at a time, reading from each translation.

Wow, what an experience! (It was great, by the way - and a good refresher on all those stories of the early church.)

To hear people debate the authenticity of the bible, and various translations, these days, one would think that the common versions were practically opposite each other in meaning, that they were chock full of differences and ommissions and additions - thus lacking validity.

I found quite the opposite to be the case. I was absolutely amazed at how closely aligned the 8 versions were (these included the KJV by the way). I could not see how ANYONE who read a complete passage from ANY of those most popular versions, could walk away with different applications from different versions.

Of course, if one cherry picks verses and pulls them out of context, one can twist them to mean just about anything. But my point is that the 8 versions were striking in their consistency, rather than in their differences.

Why AM I not surprised.

Ahhhhhh the ignore button. What a blessing we have one. Thank you Lord. The fishing season on IKNOWNUFFINK is over for you lady, this fish wont be biting. Have a nice life.
 
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IKNOWNUFFINK

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I must be famous, people talk about me in groups of two or three as if Im not here, in threads that I've started, wow. Or maybe they're just the voices in my head or maybe I have developed x-ray vision and am actually seeing private conversations taking place about me.

No, its just forum land, a unique and chilling view into the lost and unrestrained twisted black hole that is the human heart. Its the final frontier folks. Make sure you've got you armour on.
 
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angellous_evangellous

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I must be famous, people talk about me in groups of two or three as if Im not here, in threads that I've started, wow. Or maybe they're just the voices in my head or maybe I have developed x-ray vision and am actually seeing private conversations taking place about me.

No, its just forum land, a unique and chilling view into the lost and unrestrained twisted black hole that is the human heart. Its the final frontier folks. Make sure you've got you armour on.

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Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Seems to me that he is extremely weak in his faith if he has to put you on ignore.
What do you think?

I think he's a goober, and I think I scare the bejeebus out of him. :slap:

I've been known to have that effect on men before.
 
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