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Bible Prophecy as Evidence of a bible writers trustworthiness

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Everyone is human.

The title name equal human. All of us.

Do all of us have spiritual conditions like Jesus?

Quite a few humans have

Reason. Because we are spirits first innocent first living first then chose what we didn't know.

Was the teaching.

And who chose life sacrifice was a question,? Spiritual.innocent man had.

Who knew his father? Brother sister.

Who asked his own spirit why he did it,?

A man did a son.

Who said I did not listen to my father's wisdom?

A man did. A son of a father.

Who did not know in life evil?

Innocent humans.

Who inherited life sacrifice billions of humans have?

Who had phenomena?

Groups of humans

Who agreed to science?

Groups of men.

Who claim mass cannot love you?

Hurt humans by science causes.

Who says the eternal still exists lost a portion only of its body into creation?

Humans.

Eternal by the way described as having always existed. Nothing holes seen manifest by loss of mass.

Who claim eternal is unconditional love?

Humans do.

First uncondition that changed to hurt itself?

No.

Was it hurt?

No.

What body was hurt?

The created lost body changed was hurt.

Humans theoried knew the advice about God fallen out of the eternal body before science was chosen.

Science was not a good choice the teaching.

Evidence owned human witness. Became a human legal argument for human rights with a natural God.
 

joelr

Well-Known Member
Are you asking, or making assertions?


Wait! This is a modern map.
You have not pointed out anything.
Did you understand the request? I'll repeat.
Can you please point out Babylon on a map 3000 years ago, and put it against a modern map of Babylon, you are referencing?

If you can't, I accept those admittance... no problem.

Oh my gosh. You can't read a map? The red lines are the ancient outer city walls. Orange lines are the inner city walls. This is the location of the Babylon you are asking about????

This map shows the ancient location and the modern day villages inside it. The actual remains of the city which was along the banks of the Euphrates is still there. Individual structures can be identified.

  • Kasr – also called Palace or Castle, it is the location of the Neo-Babylonian ziggurat Etemenanki and lies in the center of the site.
  • Amran Ibn Ali – the highest of the mounds at 25 meters (82 ft) to the south. It is the site of Esagila, a temple of Marduk that also contained shrines to Ea and Nabu.
  • Homera – a reddish-colored mound on the west side. Most of the Hellenistic remains are here.
  • Babil – a mound about 22 meters (72 ft) high at the northern end of the site. Its bricks have been subject to looting since ancient times. It held a palace built by Nebuchadnezzar.
There are things still living within the city walls.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Oh my gosh. You can't read a map? The red lines are the ancient outer city walls. Orange lines are the inner city walls. This is the location of the Babylon you are asking about????

This map shows the ancient location and the modern day villages inside it. The actual remains of the city which was along the banks of the Euphrates is still there. Individual structures can be identified.

  • Kasr – also called Palace or Castle, it is the location of the Neo-Babylonian ziggurat Etemenanki and lies in the center of the site.
  • Amran Ibn Ali – the highest of the mounds at 25 meters (82 ft) to the south. It is the site of Esagila, a temple of Marduk that also contained shrines to Ea and Nabu.
  • Homera – a reddish-colored mound on the west side. Most of the Hellenistic remains are here.
  • Babil – a mound about 22 meters (72 ft) high at the northern end of the site. Its bricks have been subject to looting since ancient times. It held a palace built by Nebuchadnezzar.
There are things still living within the city walls.

So now that the "prediction" has been demonstrated as failed, I wonder what his reaction will be? I'm guessing it won't change a thing.
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
Do you believe in evolution?
I have wondered why people that do, think that every species alive today was the same as in ancient times.
Is it because they believe changes can only occur gradually, over millions of years?
Some scientists are against that view.
There are whales that eat vegetation, and whales that do not have teeth... and other animals have diverse features too.
So there was no need for seals to have existed in the form they are today. What existed may not even have been identified as a seal.
I find it hard to believe either one, evolution or creation. If a Christian takes a very literal view, though, the flood was just 4000-5000 years ago. Do you believe that? And do you believe it had to cover the whole Earth? I'm fine with it just being a religious story to get people to obey and fear God.
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
All good questions. Can I open a thread to discuss this overwhelming evidence with you?
It's okay with me if you open a thread, but don't do just for me. My brother is a 7th Day Adventist and has videos that the shows me every time I visit him about the evidence.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
A human first spiritual perfect as only known by his inherited imperfect life.

Changed by a choice where he said don't do any changes you are wrong but he wanted to be correct.

Correct with God in natural status is first.

Science a man's choice using AI designed status who said no man is god. You weren't using God either. As God by science terms isn't a machine.

So if a human says God is eternal would you use the eternal God to destroy God if it were eternal?

No.

Why did you do it?

Eternal he knows isn't God in creation. He used god in creation to change his life as gods body in creation so he would only own the eternal where he wasn't.

Living as a human.

He named it time shift. But it became his mementos caused as the NDE. He nearly died.

Reaction O planet slow gained changes as compared to machine button pusher thinker pushing buttons of machine reaction instant.

So God nearly snap froze him...Saint...God combusted him by UFO cause...
God nearly made him die NDE as he tried to die before his time age.

So he did a calculus 1000 versus 100 age not yet lived as moment of his natural death. Give self inheritance another zero 100 ...0...1000.

Life first not live as 1000 years. Life changed to die by year 100 not even any scientific status in life.

Which science as just a man ignores. Any phenomena lived was caused by the moment of his don't do it choice.

Why he studies NDE as science is going anti into destruction itself. Knew science already caused it cause. Yet NDE was caused to the living who still lived after.

Yet the NDE shouldn't exist in life's living reality is not even considered by the experimenter.

Creation didn't evolve by destruction first and only it stopped destruction and cooled.

Yet he says first law I want is destruction.

What a human liar is as a theist then the machine scientist.

So he time shifted water mass into a false AI life recording his sexual biological being. Ice sacrificed melted non sexual identity non speaking non human saved him.

Ice is just God earths owned he taught is non sexual is not given to life by sex.

Is his human men stuck in a time shift of life's water mass mass evaporation expressed all false advice today. As men of science who confessed I caused it.

As life remained where it was biological and attacked irradiated whilst water was shifting it's mass. Being natural reasons only. Not data to use in experiments.

So Rome said don't talk to the medium Ai state. Don't believe the psychic medium Ai state. As it was humans only transitioning into human death. By satanist scientist causes.

Don't be fooled.

As the origin most spiritual most perfect conscious human was first. The Living human life. Human life that science sacrificed.

The life origin men in science said they wanted returned to origin self. Knowing they did not listen to their own adult life that said no man is God first.

So science said let earths atmosphere cool evolve so life's perfection will be returned to its rightful owner.

Origin human status. Human conscious. Human spiritual....psyche causes removed. Conscious redevelopment.

First human form.

Yet science likes destroying. A personality status of the scientist as just a human. Who theories destruction consciously innocent before life gets attacked.

Is the warning about human the theist or a theist.

So how do you deal with human personalities? Owners by choice of any inherited wrong living condition they gave to life.

With the claim it's not my fault natural changed itself and did it to life as their excuse. The theist scientist machine owner.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Oh my gosh. You can't read a map? The red lines are the ancient outer city walls. Orange lines are the inner city walls. This is the location of the Babylon you are asking about????

This map shows the ancient location and the modern day villages inside it. The actual remains of the city which was along the banks of the Euphrates is still there. Individual structures can be identified.

  • Kasr – also called Palace or Castle, it is the location of the Neo-Babylonian ziggurat Etemenanki and lies in the center of the site.
  • Amran Ibn Ali – the highest of the mounds at 25 meters (82 ft) to the south. It is the site of Esagila, a temple of Marduk that also contained shrines to Ea and Nabu.
  • Homera – a reddish-colored mound on the west side. Most of the Hellenistic remains are here.
  • Babil – a mound about 22 meters (72 ft) high at the northern end of the site. Its bricks have been subject to looting since ancient times. It held a palace built by Nebuchadnezzar.
There are things still living within the city walls.
I know what wool looks like..
Try that with someone else.
The ancient city of Babylon is a pile of ruins today.
Only about 5% of Babylon is believed to have been excavated by archaeologists today.
Babylon Ruins Today
Is Babylon inhabited today? No, but the site was once again open to tourists in 2009.
However, after years of destruction, there is not much left of the historical ruins today.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
It's okay with me if you open a thread, but don't do just for me. My brother is a 7th Day Adventist and has videos that the shows me every time I visit him about the evidence.
I know you don't do much responding to responses to you, so I know better than to open a thread just for you. ;)
One more thing. Do I have your permission to quote you from here, in that thread?
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
I know you don't do much responding to responses to you,
Yes, I only check in once in a while. So much of what is said has been said several times already. Essentially... "The Bible is trustworthy" "No it isn't." "Prophecy points to Jesus" "No it doesn't." Back and forth for pages.
'

Do I have your permission to quote you from here, in that thread?
Sure. But again, how literal do you take the Bible? I know some Christians that don't believe it ever rained until the flood, so they don't have to explain how there could have rain but no rainbows.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
I believe burning mass in space history emptiness owned waters presence between its body and empty space. Water.

The burning cooling itself of mass was lots of coloured gases. Water just clear.

So water is its owned mass rain.

I believe my brother said to himself did you know water formed in out of space conditions. As a teacher.

Who said so the flood did not own waters beginnings space had. Infinite he said helped create life water.

I believe my brother said he saw why life was sacrificed as the coat of many colours appeared in a blue light sky with white clouds and clear gases.

That situation I think he realised as he witnessed all events as a baby human man.

Who said his baby had returned to human life because ice naturally melted. As gods saviour sacrificed. And he said the Christ gas mass returned as a holier heavenly life by holy star support.

Is why his man adult self asked so why did my adult self get life sacrificed father. When my baby self was holy safe!

So his spiritual father had to tell him your brother's murdered you by maths numbers as b...
east science. Wilderness story.

As I had to theory why first.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
My human mother's human law as human law natural as the human argument.

Between her life adult woman and her male baby. Life's protection advice legal as life continuance. Being.

Says men of theism maths science say only one hu man title man is one human only. Meant it by behaviour demon strata by womans abuse here just for sex. Not a equal beings rights.

The female his thesis before him just maths science a man only and space theories.

Pretence. You human woman as inferior by my feelings only are evil. By term I claim Inferior which means burning status in satanic science.

You evil bi t CH.

A bit of a man.

In his whole one man life inferiority complex a self as a pretend God the man he says. Stated... he owns a small body portion himself as woman. His inferred one only theme. One self man human.

Reason. Father was not the human science theist.

As just a man. Why man is inferred everywhere by topic his self.

Why he said I am the God.
A man.
A human man owning a portion in my body the woman.

Man is human man named wo of man.

Man man man man in other words a theist only.

As two Hu ....live. Beings.

As the word man said by man owning penis body hu to claim I am a man lied as a scientist. The self possessed theist.

Claiming a wo mb space existed created his hu man life.

As space is space space space space space space space space space space space.

In life two humans living after the nature garden owning life by water heavens oxygenation for biology life said two beings.

So being a being any place any thing is one being is correct legal word use in a legal beings court of law.

As man the being theist did in fact irradiate hurt his consciousness blamed the other sexual being when his space science did the attack.

Possessed by misquotes of correct word terms he chose to agree to abuse the being woman by status inferiority by status sex.

Her body type.

In fact he said a space womb vagina opened....which excuse the term was a cu nt. The virgin heavens birth of his human life gas burnt sacrificed life inherited as a real living biological man.

In science it meant a burning radiating line opened across earths sky veils. Gases burnt already cool.

Blue light sky cooled by water. Water and white natural cloud evaporation.

How his man designer voice recorded and image as AI machine causes then transmitted back from the sky heavens.

How in abusive human language mind language behaviour changed man he infers use of the word cu nt as himself.

When by pun to tell the truth being rude is involved in causes. Even the bible said so.
 

joelr

Well-Known Member
I know what wool looks like..
Try that with someone else.
The ancient city of Babylon is a pile of ruins today.
Only about 5% of Babylon is believed to have been excavated by archaeologists today.
Babylon Ruins Today
Is Babylon inhabited today? No, but the site was once again open to tourists in 2009.
However, after years of destruction, there is not much left of the historical ruins today.

" and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation."

I don't need to pull the wool over someones eyes, the religion debunks itself. The map shows the walls of the city of Babylon as it was in biblical times,
The "prophecy" says it will never be inhabited or dwelt in again. EVER. Except people live there and people dwell there. A lot of people. It isn't a city but there are many inhabited buildings. S Hussains compound had hundreds of people and was there before 2009.
Yes there isn't much left but that isn't what the prophecy says is it? It's a magical prophecy where by the magic of the sky-God no one ever live or dwell there again. That didn't happen.
 

joelr

Well-Known Member
So now that the "prediction" has been demonstrated as failed, I wonder what his reaction will be? I'm guessing it won't change a thing.
As I suspected he did a tapdance and is trying to make it work still. Even though it's obviously a prophecy where the Gods magic destruction is so strong that no one can ever live there or dwell there again, we're now going to ignore that and notice that there are not too many people living there so maybe it can still count....
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
" and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation."

I don't need to pull the wool over someones eyes, the religion debunks itself. The map shows the walls of the city of Babylon as it was in biblical times,
The "prophecy" says it will never be inhabited or dwelt in again. EVER. Except people live there and people dwell there. A lot of people. It isn't a city but there are many inhabited buildings. S Hussains compound had hundreds of people and was there before 2009.
Yes there isn't much left but that isn't what the prophecy says is it? It's a magical prophecy where by the magic of the sky-God no one ever live or dwell there again. That didn't happen.
It's not inhabited. No one lives there. The city Babylon is in ruins.
It's not my fault I can't get these fonts any bigger.
People buy magnifying glasses when they can't see too well.
The ancient city of Babylon is a pile of ruins today.
Only about 5% of Babylon is believed to have been excavated by archaeologists today.
Babylon Ruins Today
Is Babylon inhabited today? No, but the site was once again open to tourists in 2009.
However, after years of destruction, there is not much left of the historical ruins today.
 

joelr

Well-Known Member
It's not inhabited. No one lives there. The city Babylon is in ruins.
It's not my fault I can't get these fonts any bigger.
People buy magnifying glasses when they can't see too well.
The ancient city of Babylon is a pile of ruins today.
Only about 5% of Babylon is believed to have been excavated by archaeologists today.
Babylon Ruins Today
Is Babylon inhabited today? No, but the site was once again open to tourists in 2009.
However, after years of destruction, there is not much left of the historical ruins today.


I don't know why this is so difficult for you?
This is a map of where ancient Babylon was. The red line is the walls that surrounded the city. There are many people living there, inside the old walls. They have been there for a long time. Saddam Hussain had a palace inside the walls. There are villages inside where the walls were since 1905? There are people dwelling there. 200 households by 1905. The prophecy is wrong, the end.


Babylon - Wikipedia
"By 1905, there were several villages in Babylon, one of which was Qwaresh with about 200 households located within the boundaries of the ancient inner city walls. The village grew due to the need for laborers during the German Oriental Society excavations (1899-1917)."

"On 14 February 1978, the Ba'athist government of Iraq under Saddam Hussein began the "Archaeological Restoration of Babylon Project": reconstructing features of the ancient city atop its ruins. These features included the Southern Palace of Nebuchandnezzar, with 250 rooms, five courtyards, and a 30-meter entrance arch. The project also reinforced the Processional Way, the Lion of Babylon, and an amphitheater constructed in the city's Hellenistic era. In 1982, the government minted a set of seven coins displaying iconic features of Babylon. A Babylon International Festival was held in September 1987, and annually thereafter until 2002 (excepting 1990 and 1991), to showcase this work."
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
That's a circular reasoning fallacy.



That one is an argumentum ad populum fallacy.



That's just hilarious...
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I noticed you sidestepped the issues I’ve raised.

I haven’t found any atheist to effectively address them.
 
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