[SIZE=-1]The earliest manuscripts of the Septuagint are from Qumran and are dated to the second century BCE. (96–180) not 300 AD[/SIZE]
ther only reason i will continue on with the next part is because the "what a laff" part, Obvioously non cathoics are brought up misinformed, parts of the bible Ignored parts of the Bible empahsised, not the bible as whole, as it should be, so part 2:
Scriptually Speaking the Catholic Church as in Roman Catholic Church was the first Cristian church in the sense the Catholic Teachings and celebrations go closley with the teachings of the Apostles
Origins Of Peter as Pope
Peter "rock": "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18).
Some have tried to argue that Jesus did not mean that his Church would be built on Peter but on something else.
Some argue that in this passage there is a minor difference between the Greek term for Peter (Petros) and the term for rock (petra), yet they ignore the obvious explanation: petra, a feminine noun, has simply been modifed to have a masculine ending, since one would not refer to a man (Peter) as feminine. The change in the gender is purely for stylistic reasons.
These critics also neglect the fact that Jesus spoke Aramaic, and, as John 1:42 tells us, in everyday life he actually referred to Peter as Kepha or Cephas (depending on how it is transliterated). It is that term which is then translated into Greek as petros. Thus, what Jesus actually said to Peter in Aramaic was: "You are Kepha and on this very kepha I will build my Church."
The Church Fathers, those Christians closest to the apostles in time, culture, and theological background, clearly understood that Jesus promised to build the Church on Peter, as the following passages show.
The Apostles gathered at houses and Began teachign the gospel, breaking bread and drinking wine, to remember the words of the last supper. and the break offs of the other sects Eat crackers and drink apple juice or oysters and water, If the bible is 100 % truth, without fault, every meanign to be taken exactly word for word, then why is the breaking bread and drinking wine to celebrate The words of the last supper so bad, did jesus not say "This IS my Blood" "This IS my body" dont recall the scripture reading "if you hold the wine to the light and shake it it looks like it could be my blood and if you add lots of iron it may taste like blood" or " If you think the bread into really small thins slices and hold it up to the light it will appear to be skin" The Bible is litteral, then so are those phrases, which brings me to # 2. The Catholic Church Follows Jesus teachings.
as i mentioned before The KJV Replaces The Hebrew word for Priest to elder, following the Oldest Original translation using the most common Word of the time the word meant "Preist" 3. The Catholic Church follows the hierechy of the original church, Peter was clearly made To be the "Leader of the church" (pope) then commisioned the other apostles to go out and spread the good news (Cardinals) in turn they needed more people the religion Historically was growing so the Apostles commisioned Bishops and then came priests.
If the Question Still remains is Peters church the oringinal Church then reading scripture carfully will allow you to see that yes the church peter commisioned is obviously the first church.
4. John 20:19–23. Let me read it: "On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, ‘Peace be with you.’ When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained
So obviously his commisioned priest can forgive sins, yet the non Catholic church's say no man can forgive sins, again
and to offer state a fact about the statment made, Jesus was not only Fully GOd, but he was Fully Man
4. Our priests are from the decendants of the priest of the oringal Bible, following the same Commision.
Now after establishing the Catholic Church as the first church i will continue on
The Apostles didnt need to "Label" The books in which they qouted, Just needed to qoute them referance back the Qoutes found in the Gospel of mathew to a OT reading in the KJV and mostly not find them , as they are not found in the KJV because they were removed because KJ believed that the greek text where not The words of god, He determines what is and isnt the word of god? Dating back to 1st centery BC is the Septuingt.
The Bible "DOES NOT" Define itself in the sence the what scriptures should be in the bible and what should
"No where in the Sacred Writings are the divinely inspired Books listed completely"
and as Far as the Bible Being All truth, one thing is for certain, the Bible is the word of God, and The Bible Inspired the Writers to write what they wrote, But Plenty of the Bible, are Parables, Or stories as a response,
Example:
The story of Adam and Eve in Genesis is mythical. Even so it fails to present any valid morals, and instead proposes that a) it is acceptable to punish people for the sins of others (original sin) and b) that death is a suitable punishment for disobedience (5th Commandment , Thou shall Not Kill" . Adam and Eve's sons must have slept with their own mother. (Biblically- and Morally thats Wrong) God is shown to be a bad parent, uncaring. The logic of the story is faulty.
Did God Create All Life: yes
Where there names Adma and Eve? Probally not, Was there a snake tempting them, Probbally Not, Because God made all creatures, and It was Good, Did Man and women fall under sin after beign tempted By evils, Yes, Was i because god said dont eat fruit from that tree? Probally not.
Adam and Eve was a story told with a moral and or a meaning, god did Create man, and just as the rest of gods creation it was good , Pure , Humans where the rulers of the earth but man sinned agaisnt god (eatng the fruit) becasue they where tempted by sin/Evil (Snake) the sin most likely wasnt eating the Fruit of the tree of knowledge but more likley The fruit was part of the story to reference a way that man disobeyed gods Commandment and god Shut off the gates to this gorgeous garden, to Paradise (Heaven) but made a promise that one day the women will bear child (Jesus) and the snake will bite at his heal (tempation of the devil) But the Serpent (devil/Sin) shall be crushed, sounds like a Bunch of metephors to me, None theological scholars actually find reference to the story of adam and eve in Babolonyian Myths, It is later said that More then Likely Adam and Eve was a story Given to the Babolonyians when hebrew where questioned about there faith after babolonyians todl there story,
When the skies above were not yet named
Nor earth below pronounced by name,
Apsu, the first one, their begetter,
And maker Tiamat, who bore them all,
Had mixed their waters together,
But had not formed pastures, nor discovered reed-beds;
When yet no gods were manifest,
Nor names pronounced, nor destinies decreed,
Then gods were born within them. (Dalley 233)
The Bible is a collection of stories Told with a great meaning, but not all the words are 100 % to the "T" Exactly as it happened, Each Gospel has slight differneces to make the story more Ecceptable to the target "3 Kings" To target (Rich People of the time) 3 Wise men (Poorer People of the time) The Bible is meant to tell us the word of God, God created us all, because of our sins we may not enter the kingdom of heaven untill the messiah comes , The messiah has come, died defeated satan and has opened the "gates" (gates at garden of eaden , hmmmmm) to heaven, and that one day jesus wll come to judge the living and the dead, that is the word of God, The Bible exists to tell us the good News, Jesus is born , He has dies , he is risen, and he will come again, that is the word of god, not that there where 7 ears of corn in josephs dream, (though that does have scripyual relevence) but numbers and dates couldnt have been presice, for the most part, think about ever hear a story once, travel for so many miles and tell the story without every writing down, the story begins to take its own form, but the meaning of the story remains the same, so yes the bible was inspired by God, but not Written by god, and only God holds obsolute Truth,
and do more research the Apycropha was in the Bible Before KJV and was removed simply becasue it was greek, The Bible was changed to meet the needs of a king, a king with less Authority then the Church at the time.
The Only reason Catholic's faith are questioned so much is becasue of the protestant reformation, Before that there was only The Roman Catholic church as means of the Cristian Faith and that is historical, The Non Catholic Cristian Faiths are Branch off's of the church which came before them, and thats not religiously speaking thats Historically speaking..
Martin Luther Posted 95 thesis and because the church did agree with most and not all, He broke off and started his own religion....
Hense the Demoninations
other then the Actual Apologetics of the catholic faith considering the term catholic was not used in the Bible as the first church doesnt means its not the first Cristian church thought it does become hard to prove, but i can tell you historically The branch off's are just that branch off's