Vadergirl123
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Oh you don't have to name contradictions. I'm sure the ones you've already mentioning are somewhere in the list.
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Biblical Contradictions
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Vadergirl123
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The links take you to an explanantion of an answer to the contradiction not a commentary, but you don't have to read over the link.
I didn't mean for the emoticon to be rude, Sorry
HerDotness
Lady Babbleon
We're still talking about two different things here, and you don't appear to be understanding me yet.
I understand that you're supplying links that take us to an answer to each of the 463 contradictions (which is somewhat copping out since you originally said that you would refute them. That ordinarily means presenting your own arguments and backing them up with references to bible passages, not just posting a link to where someone else has done that.)
When I referred to your not just linking us to a commentary, I was talking about Barker's Easter challenge and telling you that it wouldn't be good enough if you decide to take up his challenge for you simply to link to any of the several commentaries that people have claimed answer his challenge. They don't, or he'd have acknowledged one or more of them as having succeeded.
The point of Barker's challenge is for you to take the four gospel accounts of the resurrection and put all of the details that differ from one Gospel to another in the exact order that things happened, leaving out nothing. It's something you must do yourself, no reference to sources needed other than showing which detail is from what biblical passage (Mark 3:5, for example).
I didn't mean for the emoticon to be rude, Sorry
Apology accepted.
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Vadergirl123
Active Member
Oh okay, If I end up doing it, then I'll do it on my own without using other references.
McBell
Unbound
When are you going to start refuting the alleged contradictions?
Vadergirl123
Active Member
I've already started, go back a couple pages.
Vadergirl123
Active Member
No. 22 Where was the tribe of Aijalon from? Joshua reads and,"out of the tribe of Dan...Ajalon with her suburbs." I Chronicles seems to say the that the tribe is from Ephraim. However when one reads the context of the verse you can see that the author doesn't claim Aijalon is from Ephraim.(vs 65-69) There's no contradiction.
Vadergirl123
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No. 25 Was David alone when asking for holy bread at Nob? The answer is yes. If you read the context of I Samuel 21 you'll see that David goes in alone, and his men are waiting for him(vs 2). These verses don't contradict what Jesus says in Mak, Luke, adn Matthew. Jesus doesn't say the men were with him in the temple. In fact its ays how HE went into the house of God. It doesn't say how THEY went in. This isn't a contradiction.
McBell
Unbound
We must have very different definitions of the word "refute"...
Vadergirl123
Active Member
No. 28 How should the Ammonites be treated? In Deuteronomy God commands the Israelites to not distress or meddle with the Ammonites. 200-300 yrs later the Israelites are fighting against the Ammonites defending their land(judges 11:32) and in Jeremiah the Ammonites have sinned against God and are being judged. There's no contradiction.
She is really making a mockery of herself. It's rather sad.
McBell
Unbound
Seems to me that it is ratification, not refutation she is engaging in.
Quiddity
UndertheInfluenceofGiants
For reference, for those who care for it.
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/christianity-dir/22941-biblical-contradictions-answered.html
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/christianity-dir/22941-biblical-contradictions-answered.html
Some of the responses to contradictions are good but some are outright poor.
Take Divorce for example. The claim is that Jesus explains the law of Moses (which was actually the law of God according to the Bible - did Jesus not know this ?) and offers a higher calling.
OK .. so that is basically saying that the NT contradicts the OT and basically offers the excuse "God changed his mind".
So what does this suggest ??.. God's morals were faulty a thousand years earlier but now God has revisited his error.
Come on ..
Further .. God could not figure this out after the first 2000 or so years of humanity (since creation) Gives Moses a bunch of laws .. and then 1400 years later the light comes on ?
Not only is this an offense to logic and human intellect (which presumably is less than God's ability) .. it does not even pass the "giggle test".
Are we to believe that God is a tad bit slow of mind and fickle ? .. That in the old days marriage was not a big deal but all of a sudden became a union betwen man, woman and God ? Was God not able to figure out that he was somehow included in this mystical union previously ? It must have been Asherah (Gods consort) saying "God .. wake up .. your late to the party here"
Now given that God gave us reason and logic to begin with .. why would he do something so illogical and then expect humans living 2000 years later to believe it ?
Perhaps the lesson is to figure out how silly it is to believe in a man made book about God.
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Me Myself
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The different sotires of the amount of women that went to visit Jesus body, how they found the angel , the tomb, how many angels, where they spoke, to whom, in what order , and even if they spoke at all change widely in the 4 gospels of Jesus.
Has anyone the capibility to rectify this changes? I would be surprised
Has anyone the capibility to rectify this changes? I would be surprised
Me Myself
Back to my username
Oh you don't have to name contradictions. I'm sure the ones you've already mentioning are somewhere in the list.
I am sure they are not, but by all means do your part and show me where. the burden of proof is in your side. If you do not, they stay contradictory.
Skwim
Veteran Member
And knuckle-headed.
Consider contradiction #104 from the linked list.
"104. One of the penalties of David's sin was seven years of famine [2 Sam 24:13]
It was not seven years, but three years of famine [1 Chron 21:11,12]
This could definitely be a copyist's error."
Well, there ya go. Any unexplainable contradiction is obviously no contradiction at all because it's simply a copyist's error. It was not seven years, but three years of famine [1 Chron 21:11,12]
This could definitely be a copyist's error."
Which means anything in the Bible, contradiction or not, could be a copyist's error; the banal and the momentous alike. HerDotness
Lady Babbleon
I wouldn't rely upon Quiddity's source to do that.
About the question of whether it was one woman who went to the tomb or more than one, the site says as many such do, "Well, just because the names of only one or two are given doesn't mean that there couldn't have been more unnamed women with them. One gospel says Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, and another possibly indicates that there were other women with them."
So, let's say we're friends, and I tell you that our mutual friend Sarah drove her car to New York City yesterday and got there at 1:00 for lunch at the Tavern on the Green. She could have had a car full of passengers. That might be the case. I just neglected to mention or didn't know there were others with her. Later, you meet up with another friend who tells you that Steve, Mike and Cindi went to the Tavern on the Green for lunch yesterday at about 1:00. So, they were probably Sarah's passengers and had lunch with her. Even if you know that Steve is Sarah's boyfriend, that doesn't mean he went with Sarah and the others or that the four met there for lunch. Sarah might have been going there to have lunch with her aunt. That's how this stuff works when you can't for some reason ask Sarah (or Mary Magdalene in the case of this biblical contradiction) if anyone else was with her.
This is how "maybe" and "possibly" are often used to excuse away biblical contradictions.
HerDotness
Lady Babbleon
What eyewitness? We don't know exactly who wrote any of the Christian NT and thus cannot be assured anything in it was written by anyone who knew Jesus firsthand. Scholars are fairly sure that some of the books traditionally said to be those of Paul were written by him, but that's as close as we get and that isn't certain. Paul never knew Jesus but only had a vision of him; he says that himself.
And if God inspired falsehood and error, then why should people believe anything in writings inspired by God?
Some deity that is, that would deliberately convey untruths leaving people to wonder what else isn't true.