Biden and the traitorous People's Democrat Party is trying to start a civil war if not already with the open border being ground zero.

[Twilight Hue]

Spare me this bull, will ya?

No bull. Not like other people think it's dangerous on its own provided you don't play with it.


You need to get real about some things.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Illegal immigrants can't vote except in some local elections.

Laws permitting noncitizens to vote in the United States

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

Illegals shouldn't vote in any election, but Democrats don't care about that. They just want to milk people for votes and if that means stealing votes via illegals, they will do it.

Already they got 800,000 illegals voting in New York City. That should speak volumes and how much they care about actual citizens. As if they really cared in the first place.

And they have the sheer gall to accuse others of foreign interference.

Massive Hypocrites and traitors. Almost all of them.

 

[McBell]

Already they got 800,000 illegals voting in New York City.

Wrong

New York City’s Noncitizen Voting Law Is Struck Down (Published 2022)

A State Supreme Court judge from Staten Island said the measure, which would have allowed more than 800,000 noncitizens to vote, violated the State Constitution.

www.nytimes.com

 

[ChristineM]

No. Razor wire is not illegal. Texas has full authority to use if if they deem necessary.

It impedes border security therefore it is illegal.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It impedes border security therefore it is illegal.

No. It isn't.

 

[ChristineM]

No. It isn't.

Your opinion.

One of the most well-settled questions in US constitutional law is that duly enacted federal laws overcome all state laws that conflict with them, and that states may not prevent federal officials from performing their official job duties.​

If it was impending border security then it is illegal

 

[Revoltingest]

Sorry, but "open borders" isn't something administrations decide. It is federal and international law that allows migrants to apply for assylum. The Biden administration is just following the law. The new legislation might change this, but we don;t know what ti says. All we know is there is a bipartisan group working on a new plan, and that Biden will sign it. We also know Trump is trying to sabotage it so that Biden doens't have a win. Right now Texas is part of the United States and has to defer to federal law.

They can "follow the law" with various agendas.
A porous border appears to be the Democrats'.

As for Trump, he's a separate matter. He'd burn
the country down if that's what it took for him
to gain power over it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Your opinion.

Not an opinion. The Texas governor has fully explained already what these rights are and that the federal government has no jurisdiction over states upholding the Constitution and protecting its people and the nation as a whole.

 

[McBell]

No. Razor wire is not illegal. Texas has full authority to use if if they deem necessary.

And the US Supreme Court just ruled that border patrol has the legal right to remove it whenever it gets in the way of them doing their job.

 

[ChristineM]

Not an opinion. The Texas governor has fully explained already what these rights are and that the federal government has no jurisdiction over states upholding the Constitution and protecting its people and the nation as a whole.

I edited my post with this...

One of the most well-settled questions in US constitutional law is that duly enacted federal laws overcome all state laws that conflict with them, and that states may not prevent federal officials from performing their official job duties..​

​

It was impeding border security from doing their job (and presenting a danger on public land)

Of course the governor who ordered it erected is going to say "woah i never broke constitutional law"

 

[Twilight Hue]

And the US Supreme Court just ruled that border patrol has the legal right to remove it whenever it gets in the way of them doing their job.

States are not subjugated to federal rule which is why states are ratified as being self governing entities through the Constitution.

The Texas governor has thoroughly explained that as well.

 

[McBell]

States are not subjugated to federal rule which is why states are ratified as being self governing entities through the Constitution.

The Texas governor has thoroughly explained that as well.

wow.
Now you just darted head first full force into la la land.

 

[ChristineM]

States are not subjugated to federal rule which is why states are ratified as being self governing entities through the Constitution.

The Texas governor has thoroughly explained that as well.

Read the constitution.

States may not prevent federal officials from performing their official job duties.

It's clear even to a non American

And the supreme court voted 5 to 4 against the razor wire.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Already they got 800,000 illegals voting in New York City. That should speak volumes and how much they care about actual citizens. As if they really cared in the first place.

Wrong

New York City’s Noncitizen Voting Law Is Struck Down (Published 2022)

A State Supreme Court judge from Staten Island said the measure, which would have allowed more than 800,000 noncitizens to vote, violated the State Constitution.

www.nytimes.com

Had the law referenced by @McBell gone into effect, it would have allowed "legal non-citizens" to vote and only in local elections. Hoards of illegal immigrants aren't voting for Democrats.

And if they become citizens and vote Democrat because the Democrats were the ones providing them with what they needed when they needed it, that sounds a lot like they are voting for people who represent them, as if this were a representative democracy or something. ;-)

 

[McBell]

Read the constitution.

States may not prevent federal officials from performing their official job duties.

It's clear even to a non American

And the supreme court voted 5 to 4 against the razor wire.

Actually, the Supreme Court merely declared that any razor wire that interferes with the border patrol may be removed by the border patrol.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Read the constitution.

States may not prevent federal officials from performing their official job duties.

It's clear even to a non American

And the supreme court voted 5 to 4 against the razor wire.

Again the federal government has no right over Texas autonomy.

Governor Abbott Issues Statement On Texas’ Constitutional Right To Self-Defense

gov.texas.gov

Read the Constitution yourself.

 

[McBell]

Again the federal government has no right over Texas autonomy.

Almost right.
The Federal Government has the right to enforce Federal Law on the state of Texas.
Guess where that right comes from?

Read the Constitution yourself.

CORRECT!
that is exactly where the right of the Federal Government comes from.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Almost right.
The Federal Government has the right to enforce Federal Law on the state of Texas.
Guess where that right comes from?


CORRECT!
that is exactly where the right of the Federal Government comes from.

Sure. Why don't you read about Texas having the Constitutional right to defend the border as they see fit as an independent self governing state.

Governor Abbott Issues Statement On Texas’ Constitutional Right To Self-Defense

gov.texas.gov

 

[ChristineM]

Again the federal government has no right over Texas autonomy.

Read the Constitution yourself.

I have .

Article VI, section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, both the Constitution and federal law supersede state law..

Thanks

 

[Guitar's Cry]

And an expert you will never ever equal in your entire life said this...

• The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson

Jefferson called this something like the "natural manure" for Liberty, correct? I think it's worth it to remember who would actually provide this natural manure, and it wouldn't be the media personalities and politicians seeding these ideas of rebellion.

Also, for funsies, let's pit Sam Adams' quote speaking of Shay's Rebellion against Jefferson's quote here:

"...in monarchies the crime of treason and rebellion may admit of being pardoned or lightly punished, but the man who dares rebel against the laws of a republic ought to suffer death."

(Note: I don't absolutely agree with anything so bloodthirsty as these folks fresh from a revolution, but it's interesting to see these two opposing ideals from early American figures.)