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Biden and the traitorous People's Democrat Party is trying to start a civil war if not already with the open border being ground zero.

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The Fed.gov wont do anything about securing the border. Some states offer sanctuary for illegals if they can just get to the state! This creates an underworld where illegals live and work but without protection or the benefits of citizenship.
Keep sending them to the big mouth sanctuary state of New York. Make it millions!

They love being a self professed sanctuary state!
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
It appears that the only way to get Democrats to
face reality is to bus every illegal to cities dominated
by Democrats. Then constituents would rebel
against open borders.
BTW, I like the Texas solution to the SCOTUS problem,
ie, assist private property owners in keeping out the
illegals. It's an unassailably constitutional measure.
Sorry, but "open borders" isn't something administrations decide. It is federal and international law that allows migrants to apply for assylum. The Biden administration is just following the law. The new legislation might change this, but we don;t know what ti says. All we know is there is a bipartisan group working on a new plan, and that Biden will sign it. We also know Trump is trying to sabotage it so that Biden doens't have a win. Right now Texas is part of the United States and has to defer to federal law.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
There will never be a "civil war" again like there was in 1861 no matter how badly conservatives want one. I can see terrorist attacks here and there over the nation by extremists, sure, but lets be real. Most conservatives that cry out for civil war do so from the comfort their computer desk or over beers from the comfort of their local pub. What real action has been taken?
Most of them probably assume that it would be other conservatives actually doing the fighting while they cheerlead from the sidelines.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sorry, but "open borders" isn't something administrations decide. It is federal and international law that allows migrants to apply for assylum. The Biden administration is just following the law. The new legislation might change this, but we don;t know what ti says. All we know is there is a bipartisan group working on a new plan, and that Biden will sign it. We also know Trump is trying to sabotage it so that Biden doens't have a win. Right now Texas is part of the United States and has to defer to federal law.
This has gone well beyond "applying" for asylum and you know it.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
I am not excusing anything, if you read my post you will find i am mire concerned with adequate funding of the border patrol. Do you want to pay more tax to get a proper job done?
They are already getting plenty of money. Every time they get more money, they use it to facilitate the entry of the illegals into the country. They cut the razor wire, they tear down sections of wall that was keeping the migrants out, and are handing out $5000 visa gift cards and free smartphones to these people and giving them free rides to wherever they want to go in the country. I don't think we should want our money to be spent that way. The borders patrol is supposed to be keeping these people out, and not helping them to get in.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What makes the Federal government (with the support of a conservative-majority Supreme Court) removing razor wire at the border treasonous?
They are removing a dutifully placed deterrent that has been proven to be effective in protecting this country from this invasion without replacing it with something just as effective as a deterrent that protects the rightful citizens living in this country.

Instead they are leaving it completely open which to me is an act of treason and betrayal of their oath of office to protect the citizens of the United States and its borders.



 

Laniakea

Not of this world
No one supports migrants illegally entering this country. Oh wait, no . . . I take that back. There are quite a few businesses that recruit in Mexico, probably with Republican owners, for cheap labor.

Why can't you understand that the reason that migrants are a problem is largely due to Republicans not Democrats. The Republicans are just hypocrites on the issue at several different levels.
Can you back any of that up with evidence? Doubtful.
The big business in Mexico that is getting rich off the migrants are the drug cartels. No wonder democrats want to legalize drugs. They have to go somewhere.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
And yet the Democrats are the only ones trying to do anything. Razor wire does not help. It can only kill and harm innocents.
Yes, helping the illegals do illegal things, such as trespass into our country.
It'd be better if they did nothing but get out of the way.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Can you back any of that up with evidence? Doubtful.
The big business in Mexico that is getting rich off the migrants are the drug cartels. No wonder democrats want to legalize drugs. They have to go somewhere.
Oh my, spouting falsehoods and then demanding evidence for something that he knows was right. I hope everyone had their irony meters in a Faraday cage.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes, helping the illegals do illegal things, such as trespass into our country.
It'd be better if they did nothing but get out of the way.
Oh my, more falsehoods. There has been only one person that opposed fixing the border lately. Guess what his favorite color is.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yes, helping the illegals do illegal things, such as trespass into our country.
It'd be better if they did nothing but get out of the way.
Don't forget that includes voting too which is probably one of the major drivers for allowing illegals to overrun this nation and create all kinds of chaos.

Democrats want these people trained and conditioned to vote for them in exchange for free dog treats.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Don't forget that includes voting too which is probably one of the major drivers for allowing illegals to overrun this nation and create all kinds of chaos.

Democrats want these people trained and conditioned to vote for them in exchange for free dog treats.
And when Biden says that democracy is at stake, it's dog whistle for Democrats in charge of government is at stake, and nothing could be worse for criminals then for the Republicans to be back in office, especially with trump in the Oval Office.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
And when Biden says that democracy is at stake, it's dog whistle for Democrats in charge of government is at stake, and nothing could be worse for criminals then for the Republicans to be back in office, especially with trump in the Oval Office.
Well we already know in the past that the border won't be any issue for Trump to handle, and I can only think the state of Texas's gratitude at somebody who can actually do something effective, rather than betray the American people by having foreigners overrun and rape the land as the traitor and chief is allowing.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
This has gone well beyond "applying" for asylum and you know it.
The laws are set by congress. Want a change? Then write your representative.

Too bad you conservatives don't run away to Central America from woke America and all the threats to bigotry they have to endure. All the crime and violence will make them feel at home there.

FYI, all aslyum applications are ajudicated in courts. Most are rejected and applicants deported. It's just the way it is that there is so much violence and instability in Central America, and the USA has what any family wants.

Conservative look at immigration from a long view, that these aren't human beings. Rather they are numbers, and intruders to an idealistic white America that speak English. What solution have you offered? Nothing. Like other conservatives you don't want a solution. You benefit from a complaint of migrants. And you benefit from the cheap labot they provide for our economy. Do you acknowledge that? No. But you do rail on the superficial complaint.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The laws are set by congress. Want a change? Then write your representative.

Too bad you conservatives don't run away to Central America from woke America and all the threats to bigotry they have to endure. All the crime and violence will make them feel at home there.

FYI, all aslyum applications are ajudicated in courts. Most are rejected and applicants deported. It's just the way it is that there is so much violence and instability in Central America, and the USA has what any family wants.

Conservative look at immigration from a long view, that these aren't human beings. Rather they are numbers, and intruders to an idealistic white America that speak English. What solution have you offered? Nothing. Like other conservatives you don't want a solution. You benefit from a complaint of migrants. And you benefit from the cheap labot they provide for our economy. Do you acknowledge that? No. But you do rail on the superficial complaint.
My solution would be direct military aid to those countries who are having those issues just like we're doing with Ukraine and eliminating these drug cartels and criminals that are raping them in their lands and they can take control once again stopping the exodus.

I voiced that in the past, but obviously you would have never seen it. Right?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
My solution would be direct military aid to those countries who are having those issues just like we're doing with Ukraine and eliminating these drug cartels and criminals that are raping them in their lands and they can take control once again stopping the exodus.

I voiced that in the past, but obviously you would have never seen it. Right?
So create civil war? That is always a quick solution. And once the cartels and gangs are eliminated there is never new ones.

I'm no expert and you're even less of one. What I do know is that societies need stability and effective law enforcement. The solutions need to be broad and reliable. No quick fix.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So create civil war? That is always a quick solution. And once the cartels and gangs are eliminated there is never new ones.

I'm no expert and you're even less of one. What I do know is that societies need stability and effective law enforcement. The solutions need to be broad and reliable. No quick fix.
And an expert you will never ever equal in your entire life said this...


  • The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson
 
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