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Biden is very dangerous in his speeches

stvdv

Veteran Member
What are his words? Can you give examples or summarize the video?

(Videos are problematic for me!)
The red words are very stupid, as if America, which Biden represents, is King of the World who decides how other countries should be ruled and by whom. And that is just 1 example of the few I heard in the past few days, but this one says enough...

Ukraine War: Joe Biden says Vladimir Putin 'cannot remain in power'

 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I agree with @F1fan. Biden was expressing a conviction he has, an emotion he has. He has made it clear he is not advocating taking Putin out by actions of his government. The media loves controversial statements, that's a big part of the problem when people make statements like this. The media makes money by inflating such statements. It was admittedly a slip on his part, but too much has been made of this. The rest of what he said is greatly overshadowed.
That is true, that media inflates things, but still he should not say these things, esp. now Zelenski has said he might agree to Ukraine being neutral, NOT part of NATO, which is what Putin has been saying for many years, and 1 of the reasons he started the war

Better be careful now what to say, because once red buttons get pressed it can't be stopped
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Putin is allowed to use such words but Biden is not?


I'm not a US citizen, so I have no skin in this game. But if I were, I would probably expect higher standards from the democratically elected leader of my country, than I would from a corrupt kleptocrat, who effectively shredded his own country's constitution in order to cling to power.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Biden is very dangerous in his speeches. He might cause a nuclear war in Europe, such words are asking for Russian nukes IMO... there have been more of such words uttered by Biden
I'm sorry, but that's simply not at all likely. If Biden' words supposedly had that much effect on Putin, then why did Putin ignore Biden's words before?

So, while Putin's forces are killing thousands of innocent people, some are worried about Biden's words? Sorry, but that's not where the problem lies.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So, while Putin's forces are killing thousands of innocent people, some are worried about Biden's words? Sorry, but that's not where the problem lies.
Don't excuse Biden's ill considered lashing out.
While the consequences of increasing personal
hostility likely won't lead to nukes, it could cost
lives, & help Putin retain power by exploiting the
claim (however false) of an existential threat.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
If someone nukes you over such tepid words, they were likely to nuke you anyway at some point unless you backed down to every single escalation they made.
I don't think so, unless Putin has a death wish, which I doubt. Too narcissistic (egoistic) to have a death wish IMO (and very rich, hence a lot to lose or give up).
But if he is a bit narcissistic then we know it takes nothing to make him explode into one of those narcissistic anger OUTBURSTS (didn't happen yet, so maybe he is not narcissistic at all and a very friendly stable personality, but I won't bet on it)

And he might be very easily triggered now his war is not a kind of Blitzkrieg he might have thought

And a cornered cat (animal) can be very dangerous. And the officials around him are scared of him, hence if Putin loses it, we are all in trouble. They won't stop Putin I think

And if you think that is "asking for nukes", wait until you hear about the Russians threatening to nuke NATO...
I have the feeling that Putin is more trigger sensitive then those in the West. Although Russia(ns) are cool, nothing like the hot tempered Pakistani we heard threatening to nuke the West. Still, I think it's wise to not trigger on purpose such people
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
Biden is very dangerous in his speeches. He might cause a nuclear war in Europe, such words are asking for Russian nukes IMO... there have been more of such words uttered by Biden

Its not just about Putin's reaction, it goes against American policy. And yes, he misspoke, and was understood as a threat of regime change which of course was not intended.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I'm sorry, but that's simply not at all likely. If Biden' words supposedly had that much effect on Putin, then why did Putin ignore Biden's words before?

So, while Putin's forces are killing thousands of innocent people, some are worried about Biden's words? Sorry, but that's not where the problem lies.
Before Putin was not in a war. And his war is not going as planned, that creates lots of stress. Then he now has all those restrictions imposed on him

He is very cruel, seeing what he does to Ukraine. Hence IMO he is at least narcissistic or maybe even sociopath or... And all those years with KGB probably did not make him more Saintly, my guess the opposite. And I know about narcissistic anger outburst. A narcissist can be trigged suddenly by little things

Better be careful with narcissists or worse. Better be diplomatic, especially if the narcissist has more than 6000 nukes at his disposal.

Luckily Russia is cold, so maybe Putin keeps his cool
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Its not just about Putin's reaction, it goes against American policy. And yes, he misspoke, and was understood as a threat of regime change which of course was not intended.
I would not be surprise if that was actually what Biden is hoping. It would not be the first time that America interferes with other regimes.

"The wish is the mother of the thought" we say in Dutch (translated). And Biden went 1 step further and verbalized it even. Don't under estimate the "spoken words".

Once I got very angry with my father (after 50 years emotional abuse). I only used words, but he got physical, narcissistic anger outburst hitting me in the face, I went Knock Out.
But within a few weeks a criminal walked up to me (out of the blue) and said the same words to me as I said to my father. At least I need not reincarnate again, I got my self created karma almost immediately back. Big lesson this was.

I know how dangerous wrong words are.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The slogan Putin chose is : Za mir bez nazisma, (for the sake of a world with no nazism).

I guess we all agree Nazism is bad.

But the end does not justify the means.
War is incompatible with the Western Civilization.

So whoever calls for war, whoever invades, is at fault.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The slogan Putin chose is : Za mir bez nazisma, (for the sake of a world with no nazism).

I guess we all agree Nazism is bad.

But the end does not justify the means.
War is incompatible with the Western Civilization.

So whoever calls for war, whoever invades, is at fault.
For one who behaves like a Nazi,
his claims of fighting Nazis rings hollow.
OIP.ywsh3ScrN3uCVxXqQEXkrwHaEK
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
For one who behaves like a Nazi,
his claims of fighting Nazis rings hollow.
OIP.ywsh3ScrN3uCVxXqQEXkrwHaEK

It turns out that Soros was adopted by a Nazi...in Hungary .
So his family taught him certain values.

That said...I side with peace.:)
I am a Christian and I believe in a just God that will sever the wicked from among the just.
And who will judge both Soros and Putin.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
A quick perusal of this suspicious source has a timing problem.
If Soros profited from Nazi war crimes, how did he manage
this as a young teenager? (He was born in 1930.)

You might want to correct this Wikipedia article, which
gets wrong his Nazi past.
George Soros - Wikipedia
 
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