Biden keeps shipping unaccompanied children to New York and refuses to stop, stressing the system.

[Twilight Hue]

Taxation of the wealthy is unrealistic, but keeping every person of color off the US-Mexican border area with a giant wall is a perfectly sensible policy that would definitely work exactly as envisioned.

It actually was working

The Border Wall System is Deployed, Effective, and Disrupting Criminals and Smugglers


until Biden essentially opened the floodgates.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Perhaps the US government should end the policy of separating families then.

Criminals should stop breaking the law so they won’t be separated from their families.

 

[ElishaElijah]

This is truly a seasonal story, perfect for Halloween: We only need to witness the abject horror on display here in this thread, the horror of American conservatives watching people migrate to their country who do not look like them, do not talk like them, and are therefore presumed to be alien, criminal, intrinsically illegal. Let us watch their disgust, retching and barely containing their lunch, as they talk in outrage over these horrible aliens invading their soil, as if the families of poor people from a neighbouring countries were tentacles slime creatures from another galaxy, fit for any two-bit horror flick playing on the Scary Holiday.

The immigration laws that Countries have are important for the well being of the citizens of that Country. This article explains the purpose of these laws as well as some of the positive and negative effects of wise policies vs foolish policies.
What Makes a Good Immigration Policy? The Purposes of Immigration and Lessons from the Past | The Project for a New American Government

 

[Kooky]

It actually was working

The Border Wall System is Deployed, Effective, and Disrupting Criminals and Smugglers


until Biden essentially opened the floodgates.

Do you always uncritically accept what your government claims to be true?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Do you always uncritically accept what your government claims to be true?

Hmmm, this is funny with a lot of people accepting mandatory vaccine decisions for themselves and their children solely on what the “Government” says especially when the dissenting doctors voices are being censored as well as any other options than what the “Government” says. That’s my opinion, experience, and observation.

 

[Kooky]

The immigration laws that Countries have are important for the well being of the citizens of that Country.

Can you support that claim with evidence?

 

[Kooky]

Hmmm, this is funny with a lot of people accepting mandatory vaccine decisions for themselves and their children solely on what the “Government” says especially when the dissenting doctors voices are being censored as well as any other options than what the “Government” says.

I'm not "a lot of people", and I do not appreciate you putting words in my mouth that I have never said and attacking positions I have never argued.

Either engage with the points I have made in this discussion, or do not engage me at all.

 

[Kooky]

Criminals should stop breaking the law so they won’t be separated from their families.

Do you support imprisonment without trial for certain types of crimes?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Can you support that claim with evidence?

Did you read the article and observe the results?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Criminals should stop breaking the law so they won’t be separated from their families.

People seeking refuge aren't criminals.

So you're totally cool with destroying childrens' lives by tearing them from their parents arms, because their parents fled disaster in their own country in order to do their best to save their children's lives? You can't think of a better solution than that?

Gross.

I certainly hope you don't claim to be "pro-life" or support "family values."

 

[ElishaElijah]

Do you support imprisonment without trial for certain types of crimes?

No and that’s why the Jan.6 citizens who are still jailed is wrong, criminal and against the Constitution.
People who come from other countries aren’t citizens, have come without invitation or properly according to our laws and shouldn’t be allowed in the Country. So a trial? Not sure what you’re asking so be more specific.

 

[ElishaElijah]

People seeking refuge aren't criminals.

So you're totally cool with destroying childrens' lives by tearing them from their parents arms, because their parents fled disaster in their own country in order to do their best to save their children's lives? You can't think of a better solution than that?

Gross.

I certainly hope you don't claim to be "pro-life" or support "family values."

Asylum isn’t criminal, trying to bypass the process is

 

[Kooky]

I certainly hope you don't claim to be "pro-life" or support "family values."

Yea, we shouldn't assume that someone is misogynistic and homophobic until given reason to do so.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Asylum isn’t criminal, trying to bypass the process is

Great. Can you answer my question or respond to what I said?

 

[ElishaElijah]

I certainly hope you don't claim to be "pro-life" or support "family values."

I’m both that’s why I wouldn’t send my children to a foreign Country to break their laws and get separated or sell my children to people promising them a better life.
A better solution is help people where they’re at, in their own land and community is what we do through the Church.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I’m both that’s why I wouldn’t send my children to a foreign Country to break their laws and get separated or sell my children to people promising them a better life.
A better solution is help people where they’re at, in their own land and community is what we do through the Church.

Why you're still talking about people "breaking laws" is beyond me, given that we're talking about people seeking refugee status. That means they're fleeing from a dangerous place. You know, trying to give their children a better life. They lost the draw in life and were born in a place that wasn't as great as some others, through no fault of their own. Furthermore, the US is either directly or indirectly responsible for some of these horrible conditions in South American countries, given their interference/meddling in those regions over the last 50+ years.

I don't see how you can be against these people and be either "pro-life" or somebody who supports "family values." Indeed, such a position strikes me as rather hypocritical. People who support family values shouldn't support tearing families apart.

 

[ElishaElijah]

I certainly hope you don't claim to be "pro-life" or support "family values."

Are you pro-life and pro family?

 

[ElishaElijah]

I don't see how you can be against these people and be either "pro-life" or somebody who supports "family values." Indeed, such a position strikes me as rather hypocritical. People who support family values shouldn't support tearing families apart.

I’m not against anyone, I’m for people doing things the right way like you would stand in line at a store and not cut in front of someone. You’re assuming a lot about people as well as short sightedness of just letting people in the US. That’s why I posted an article in a previous post

 

[ElishaElijah]

I'm not "a lot of people", and I do not appreciate you putting words in my mouth that I have never said and attacking positions I have never argued.

Either engage with the points I have made in this discussion, or do not engage me at all.

The point you made was uncritically accepting claims made by the government so that’s what I was addressing.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I’m not against anyone, I’m for people doing things the right way like you would stand in line at a store and not cut in front of someone. You’re assuming a lot about people as well as short sightedness of just letting people in the US. That’s why I posted an article in a previous post

So I'm at, and those are the people we are talking about.

What short-sighted assumptions have I made?