Biden offered Putin 20% of Ukraine to end the war?

[The Kilted Heathen]

So, this is why articles need to be read cohesively.

The claim came from the Swiss-German newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung. From the article: "A CIA official told Newsweek that claims in the report from Swiss-German newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung (NZZ) that Burns took a secret trip to Moscow in January and that there was a peace proposal put forward by the director on behalf of the White House were 'completely false.' "

 

[Twilight Hue]

So, this is why articles need to be read cohesively.

The claim came from the Swiss-German newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung. From the article: "A CIA official told Newsweek that claims in the report from Swiss-German newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung (NZZ) that Burns took a secret trip to Moscow in January and that there was a peace proposal put forward by the director on behalf of the White House were 'completely false.' "

True. It seems the Russians in kind reflected the same thing. Calling it, "Canard".

Kremlin calls report of Biden offering Putin part of Ukraine "canard"

Still, Newsweek carried both reports. I think it was an exclusive from my understanding.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Joe Biden Offered Vladimir Putin 20 Percent of Ukraine to End War: Report

My first thought, if true, was this is supposed to be Ukraines's decision. Not a foreign country like the US to make that decision. .

That was your "first thought?"

My first thought was the second paragraph in the linked article: 'A CIA official told Newsweek that claims in the report from Swiss-German newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung (NZZ) that Burns took a secret trip to Moscow in January and that there was a peace proposal put forward by the director on behalf of the White House were "completely false."'

I take it the assumption is that such officials simply lie as a matter of habit?

 

[Twilight Hue]

That was your "first thought?"

My first thought was the second paragraph in the linked article: 'A CIA official told Newsweek that claims in the report from Swiss-German newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung (NZZ) that Burns took a secret trip to Moscow in January and that there was a peace proposal put forward by the director on behalf of the White House were "completely false."'

I take it the assumption is that such officials simply lie as a matter of habit?

I look at it as why is this being reported?

I tend to try to look at things between the lines as well. Hence more to the story and what is being alleged through the piece.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

I look at it as why is this being reported?

Because the people who do not read things critically will get no further than the first paragraph and go off on a rager, generating them clicks and views.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I look at it as why is this being reported?

I tend to try to look at things between the lines as well. Hence more to the story and what is being alleged through the piece.

"Reading between the lines" is just another way of saying, "reading what isn't there."

 

[Twilight Hue]

"Reading between the lines" is just another way of saying, "reading what isn't there."

I dunno if that is true all the time, but it is speculative in general.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I dunno if that is true all the time, but it is speculative in general.

And that is how false news and conspiracy theories are grown and distributed. Speculate, write it up as if it's true, and wait. There's nothing easier than finding willing believers (of pretty much anything and everything) among humans.

 

[Revoltingest]

If so, I hope Italy is next on the Russian chopping block.

I'd give Putin 100% of Italy.
Been there....not going there again.

 

[The Hammer]

I'd give Putin 100% of Italy.
Been there....not going there again.

I was just trying to make the point that no country should have to give up land to an invading power. Should we give up Virginia, south and North Carolina if the get invaded by Africa?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I was just trying to make the point that no country should have to give up land to an invading power. Should we give up Virginia, south and North Carolina if the get invaded by Africa?

That's why Canada doesn't attack the U.S. We don't want any of it at all -- too many guns and nut-bar politicians.

 

[The Hammer]

That's why Canada doesn't attack the U.S. We don't want any of it at all -- too many guns and nut-bars politicians.

While we have our problems. Every country does as well.

 

[Aštra’el]

That's why Canada doesn't attack the U.S. We don't want any of it at all -- too many guns and nut-bars politicians.

Canada doesn’t “attack” because Canada knows exactly what would happen if they tried.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That's why Canada doesn't attack the U.S. We don't want any of it at all -- too many guns and nut-bars politicians.

Nobody did it better than Laura Secord.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Canada doesn’t “attack” because Canada knows exactly what would happen if they tried.

Hey, we won before (1812)!

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Why does Canada not invade the US?

They're afraid they might win!

 

[The Hammer]

Canada doesn’t “attack” because Canada knows exactly what would happen if they tried.

Now now. Give them some quarter.

 

[Revoltingest]

I was just trying to make the point that no country should have to give up land to an invading power. Should we give up Virginia, south and North Carolina if the get invaded by Africa?

We'd have to give up the land
to Indians though...not that
country, Africa.

 

[metis]

The OP article is misleading, so please read it thoroughly.

Canada doesn’t “attack” because Canada knows exactly what would happen if they tried.

Hey, just remember that it was Canadians that gave us donuts!

 

[Estro Felino]

Because he launched an invasion of agression.

I am not defending him.
But I do understand there was a war in Donbas prior to the invasion (or special military operation as they call it.)
So he didn't invade Ukraine just like that.

Europe wants peace. No matter the cost.