Biden the dolt backs 40% pay raise for union UAW workers.

[Twilight Hue]

Let the CEOs get their 40% but the workers? Let them eat ramen.

Oh don't get me wrong. The CEO is definitely a greedy dirt bag that screws the Autoworkers.

However what Biden is doing is encouraging autoworkers to also be greedy dirt bags themselves, exactly like the CEO has done in the same exact vein because they themselves are in the union club, and thus screw any and all other working class folks elsewhere not belonging to the special club they are in.

 

[Orbit]

Oh don't get me wrong. The CEO is definitely a greedy dirt bag that screws the Autoworkers.

However what Biden is doing is encouraging autoworkers to also be greedy dirt bags themselves, exactly like the CEO has done in the same exact vein because they themselves are in the union club, and thus screw any and all other working class folks elsewhere not belonging to the special club they are in.

They took a pay cut during the 2009 bailout, and their wages have declined an additional 19%. How is that greedy?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Supporting Unions should help everyone. Not only does this raise economic activity for the people who benefit, but it means that other businesses have to compete with these wages.

What are your other suggestions for how Biden could help the working class?

Don't tell anybody I said this because I'll be labeled a closet 'socialist'. Sssshhhh.....

But.... I think it's time to consider implementing a national adjustable UBI program based on earnings for all working class people to maintain a universal living standard for all that would eliminate the welfare program altogether.

I blame the lefties for entertaining me to accept a trickle up system as opposed to a trickle down system with the mindset that it's worth a try.

Remember. Keep this a secret!

It will completely ruin me reputation as a complete right winger if people somehow find out about this.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Don't tell anybody I said this because I'll be labeled a closet 'socialist'. Sssshhhh.....

But.... I think it's time to consider implementing a national adjustable UBI program based on earnings for all working class people to maintain a universal living standard for all that would eliminate the welfare program altogether.

I blame the lefties for entertaining me to accept a trickle up system as opposed to a trickle down system with the mindset that it's worth a try.

Remember. Keep this a secret!

It will completely ruin me reputation as a complete right winger if people somehow find out about this.

I heard nothing!

 

[SomeRandom]

I don't see Biden willfully visiting non union factories around the nation supporting higher pay and benefits. ?!!???

It's not that he is saying bad things, just he is openly pandering towards 'too big to fail' major unions that will clearly support his own political interests in exchange for exclusive favors in a "rub my back , I'll rub yours" chum fest.

It's just a dog and pony show that only appeals to certain groups with a specific goal of mutual benefit at the exclusion of the uninvited rest who are not a part of the club.

So…he’s acting like a politician?
Okay.

 

[Subduction Zone]

With inflation of everything under Bidenomics, a 40% raise will get us back to the good ole days of Trump!

You mean Obama. The inflation that we see under Biden is from the impact of the pandemic. That means that if you want to blame someone for it you would have to blame Trump.

Or you could be realistic and honest and admit that the inflation was going to happen anyway and that our inflation . largely due to Bidenomics, is lower than that of other countries.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yep. Why just unions?

How about helping the rest of the working class in the nation who can barely pay for their needs in this day and age? Union and non union alike.

Do you remember the auto buyout? Union workers took a pay cut then. Why didn't you take a pay cut? Oh wait that's different?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Do you remember the auto buyout? Union workers took a pay cut then. Why didn't you take a pay cut? Oh wait that's different?

I'm sure the pay cut still far exceeded what non union workers make.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm sure the pay cut still far exceeded what non union workers make.

So if you make more money than someone else in your field we should cut your pay? Put yourself in their place. They took a pay cut because the business was doing terrible. Now that things are going well and they are making record profits it is time for the company to pay them back.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So if you make more money than someone else in your field we should cut your pay? Put yourself in their place. They took a pay cut because the business was doing terrible. Now that things are going well and they are making record profits it is time for the company to pay them back.

That's all dandy and fine. Just don't go around saying you support the common workers, because the reality would be that you just support a group of union workers and no one else.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's all dandy and fine. Just don't go around saying you support the common workers, because the reality would be that you just support a group of union workers and no one else.

No, I support all workers. I cannot help it if you do not understand how to support people. The flaw is yours and you do not seem to want to learn.

 

[Twilight Hue]

No, I support all workers. I cannot help it if you do not understand how to support people. The flaw is yours and you do not seem to want to learn.

I'm actually speaking of Biden. Not at you specifically. I should had worded my previous post better.

Biden is not standing with the common worker. He is standing with the union alone.

 

[Unfettered]

I wonder who will win the State of Michigan in 2024.

Isn't that just pandering?

 

[fantome profane]

Isn't that just pandering?

it is politics.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I'm sure the pay cut still far exceeded what non union workers make.

You should travel the country encouraging workers to join unions, since you seem to care so deeply about this.

 

[Stevicus]

Yep. Why just unions?

How about helping the rest of the working class in the nation who can barely pay for their needs in this day and age? Union and non union alike.

I live in a so-called "right to work" state (which is a misnomer), so unions have had a difficult time here. When the copper miners went on strike, it didn't go well for the union or its members.

I'm not against a resurgence in unions, as it could spur a larger resurgence in organized labor overall. But I agree that there's a certain unevenness in this which could serve to create divisions within the working class.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Yep. Why just unions?

Because Unions have the power to bargain for better wages, and in this case collective bargaining has resulted in better wages.

How about helping the rest of the working class in the nation who can barely pay for their needs in this day and age? Union and non union alike.

So, to be clear, giving anybody - or any group - a pay increase is bad unless it's given to everybody else in the country in a similar situation?

Do you not think this argument is a little bit childish? If anything, what you're making is an argument in favour of union membership.

 

[RestlessSoul]

MSN

He will say anything to get a vote.

Imagine a politician canvassing for votes...

 

[RestlessSoul]

Yep. Why just unions?

How about helping the rest of the working class in the nation who can barely pay for their needs in this day and age? Union and non union alike.

If you're overworked and underpaid, and your employer isn't listening, join a union.

 

[tytlyf]

You won't see Republicans supporting unions. They've even trained the conservative voters to hate unions and workers.
You also won't see Republicans supporting raising wages.
If it's good for the middle class, Republicans will be against it.
There's a reason Republicans never talk about their policy positions.