Biden the dolt backs 40% pay raise for union UAW workers.

[Twilight Hue]

If you're overworked and underpaid, and your employer isn't listening, join a union.

I was a teamster back in the 80s.

The union did nothing for me other than guarantee my job and took my dues. My local also had mob activities and later busted by the authorities.

Also @Saint Frankenstein who is very disappointed with unions.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I was a teamster back in the 80s.

The union did nothing for me other than guarantee my job and took my dues. My local also had mob activities and later busted by the authorities.

Also @Saint Frankenstein who is very disappointed with unions.

That's basically all my union does, too - take our money and make it harder to get fired. We get paid less our competitors, honestly. That's not even getting into work conditions and so on.

 

[fantome profane]

I was a teamster back in the 80s.

The union did nothing for me other than guarantee my job and took my dues. My local also had mob activities and later busted by the authorities.

Also @Saint Frankenstein who is very disappointed with unions.

That's basically all my union does, too - take our money and make it harder to get fired. We get paid less our competitors, honestly. That's not even getting into work conditions and so on.

Personally I have had both good and bad experiences with unions. But it seems to me that you both should be happy to see a union fighting for higher wages for their members. Isn't that what you would want your union to do?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Personally I have had both good and bad experiences with unions. But it seems to me that you both should be happy to see a union fighting for higher wages for their members. Isn't that what you would want your union to do?

It's a bit hard to be happy for them when they already make way more money than my coworkers and I. But good for them, I suppose.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Personally I have had both good and bad experiences with unions. But it seems to me that you both should be happy to see a union fighting for higher wages for their members. Isn't that what you would want your union to do?

To be honest if I was in the United Auto Workers Union I would be rooting for a 40% increase in pay as well. I don't blame the workers themselves for wanting that. Who wouldn't go for as much an increase in pay as that?

My only problem is the rationale that they are standing up for blue collar workers which isn't true. What they are standing up for is an exclusive group of people who have top tier Union coverage that isn't Universal for all working people everywhere both Union and non-union as several posts had expressed that of which the starting rate isn't lucrative at the get-go, which is true as my local has other companies under their wing, and they use a system of preference where one company gets the gold treatment while the other gets the bare bone basics.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's a bit hard to be happy for them when they already make way more money than my coworkers and I. But good for them, I suppose.

What gets my goat is when they say they are standing for all blue collar workers when they obviously are referring to themselves.

It's not like this strike will result in pay raises being givin across the board for every person in the nation who holds a blue collar job.

It's just a photo op for Biden to bolster his profile and union friendly favors for his political objectives.

 

[SkepticThinker]

What gets my goat is when they say they are standing for all blue collar workers when they obviously are referring to themselves.

It's not like this strike will result in pay raises being givin across the board for every person in the nation who holds a blue collar job.

It's just a photo op for Biden to bolster his profile and union friendly favors for his political objectives.

So, everyone in the entire country has to get a pay raise all at the exact same time and all equally, or nobody can?

Are the people in unions not also blue collar workers?

 

[tytlyf]

What gets my goat is when they say they are standing for all blue collar workers when they obviously are referring to themselves.

Of course they're referring to themselves, they're in the same union.

It's not like this strike will result in pay raises being givin across the board for every person in the nation who holds a blue collar job.

Of course it won't, these massive corporations only care about profits over people.
A national pay raise would be raising the federal minimum wage. Something Republicans never support

 

[fantome profane]

What they are standing up for is an exclusive group of people who have top tier Union

top tier. Sounds like you agree this union at least is good.

 

[Unfettered]

it is politics.

Are they the same thing?

 

[Twilight Hue]

top tier. Sounds like you agree this union at least is good.

Well yea, aside from strikes and massive layoffs from those cushy positions.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Of course they're referring to themselves, they're in the same union.

Of course it won't, these massive corporations only care about profits over people.
A national pay raise would be raising the federal minimum wage. Something Republicans never support

Some Republicans are OK with a national pay raise.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So, everyone in the entire country has to get a pay raise all at the exact same time and all equally, or nobody can?

Are the people in unions not also blue collar workers?

Sure, but it should be made very clear that it is in the context that this is for the UAW alone, and not support for other blue collar workers out in the nation who don't have these type of high paying jobs that are almost impossible to get into.

This is exclusively for select privileged (lucky) blue collar workers and not for the rest of blue collar workers who don't and likely can't get that type of benefit.

 

[tytlyf]

Some Republicans are OK with a national pay raise.

Show me a Republican representative pushing for a federal minimum wage increase. The current wage is $7.25/hr.
Republicans would prefer a lower number. It's corporate policy.
Conservatives whine about the corporate elite and their minions yet fail to realize they're supporting the problem when they vote (R)

 

[Twilight Hue]

Show me a Republican representative pushing for a federal minimum wage increase. The current wage is $7.25/hr.
Republicans would prefer a lower number. It's corporate policy.

Most are for the increase since 2021 but are grappling over the amount of which you're correct on it being a lower figure.

Majority Of Republicans Support Increasing Minimum Wage, Poll Finds

But most don't want a $15 an hour wage.

www.forbes.com

 

[We Never Know]

MSN

He will say anything to get a vote.

Remember a few years back when Biden was talking to auto workers about guns/2nd amendment....

"You're full of ****"
"I don't work for you"

His support is damage control and to try to ensure their votes.

On the other hand Trump is planning to speak at a non-union plant. The UAW is ticked off about that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Most are for the increase since 2021 but are grappling over the amount of which you're correct on it being a lower figure.

Majority Of Republicans Support Increasing Minimum Wage, Poll Finds

But most don't want a $15 an hour wage.

www.forbes.com

You didn't read his post properly. He did not say "Republicans". He said "Republican representative". That would mean a Senator, or a Member of the House, or a governor. Someone with some political weight behind his opinion.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Remember a few years back when Biden was talking to auto workers about guns/2nd amendment....

"You're full of ****"
"I don't work for you"

His support is damage control and to try to ensure their votes.

On the other hand Trump is planning to speak at a non-union plant. The UAW is ticked off about that.

That is not quite accurate. He was talking to one specific worker that was ranting about second amendment rights to Biden. His "You're full of ****" remark was about his false claim about Biden's stance on guns. And that worker was trying the "You work for me" bull**** line that people use with politicians or police when they are doing something wrong. He got put in his place but then the quote was taken out of context:

Fact check: Biden did tell a Detroit worker 'I'm not working for you' during gun rights argument

A viral post on social media claims Joe Biden told a factory worker he doesn't work for him. Biden did say that, but the claim is missing context.

www.usatoday.com

 

[exchemist]

MSN

He will say anything to get a vote.

But hasn't Trump also made a point of expressing support for the very same union?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Remember a few years back when Biden was talking to auto workers about guns/2nd amendment....

"You're full of ****"
"I don't work for you"

His support is damage control and to try to ensure their votes.

On the other hand Trump is planning to speak at a non-union plant. The UAW is ticked off about that.

It's a game of political chess for sure.