Biden to unveil gun control measures, appoint ATF chief

[Stevicus]

President Joe Biden to unveil gun control measures, appoint ATF chief - UPI.com

April 8 (UPI) -- President Joe Biden plans to unveil several executive actions on Thursday aimed at curbing gun violence, including measures on unregistered firearms that can be assembled from parts, commonly referred to as "ghost guns."

The new directives come in the aftermath of mass shootings in Atlanta and Boulder, Colo., that killed 18 people.

I never heard of "ghost guns" before.

"Gun violence takes lives and leaves a lasting legacy of trauma in communities every single day in this country, even when it is not on the nightly news. In fact, cities across the country are in the midst of a historic spike in homicides, violence that disproportionately impacts Black and brown Americans," the White House said in a statement.

Apparently ghost guns are sold in parts, where criminals can buy these kits and put them together in less than 30 minutes.

In one executive order, Biden will ask the Justice Department, within 30 days, to issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of "ghost guns." These weapons often don't have a serial number and can't be traced by law enforcement.

"We are experiencing a growing problem: Criminals are buying kits containing nearly all of the components and directions for finishing a firearm within as little as 30 minutes and using these firearms to commit crimes," the White House said.

Biden also will ask the Justice Department to develop within 60 days "red flag" laws that states can adopt. The measures would allow family members to petition courts to take firearms from people who are deemed a threat. Several states have red flag laws, including Colorado.

The new ATF chief is a former Federal agent and gun control advocate.

Biden will also nominate David Chipman as director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives on Thursday.

Chipman is a former federal agent, gun control advocate and adviser for the gun control advocacy group named for former Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who survived a 2011 shooting.

Other measures to be announced Thursday include:

• The Justice Department, within 60 days, will clarify regulations to ensure that pistols fitted with stabilizing braces, which essentially transform them into rifles, will be regulated under the National Firearms Act. These pistols do not fall under U.S. gun laws that regulate rifles. The alleged shooter in the Boulder tragedy last month appears to have used a pistol with an arm brace, which can make a firearm more stable and accurate while still being concealable.
• Biden will ask various agencies to direct more resources to community violence prevention measures. The White House said community violence interventions are proven strategies for reducing gun violence in urban communities through tools other than incarceration.
• The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is organizing a webinar and toolkit to educate states on how they can use Medicaid to reimburse certain community violence intervention programs. The American Jobs Plan proposes a $5 billion investment over eight years to support community violence intervention programs.
• The Justice Department will issue a new report on firearms trafficking and annual updates to give lawmakers information to help address firearms trafficking. In 2000, the ATF issued a report on its investigations into firearms trafficking, which is one way firearms are diverted into the illegal market where they can end up in the hands of dangerous individuals.

It appears that Biden is serious about addressing issues with gun violence, but if past experience is anything to go by, it's going to be a huge political battle.

 

[Thief]

and your right to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed upon

no wait...........

 

[Twilight Hue]

President Joe Biden to unveil gun control measures, appoint ATF chief - UPI.com



I never heard of "ghost guns" before.



Apparently ghost guns are sold in parts, where criminals can buy these kits and put them together in less than 30 minutes.



The new ATF chief is a former Federal agent and gun control advocate.



It appears that Biden is serious about addressing issues with gun violence, but if past experience is anything to go by, it's going to be a huge political battle.

But they all say criminal elements buy from Sam's Legal Eagle Gun Emporium at the corner of 5th and 3rd Avenue!

Now they will have to go to Big Tony's Russian Kiosk behind the pool hall in the alley on Budda Bing Boulevard. Just look for the blue Yugo and say Big Tony sent ya for a 5 % discount on your first purchase!

 

[Twilight Hue]

and your right to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed upon

no wait...........

It's not going to pass anyways.

 

[Stevicus]

But they all say criminal elements buy from Sam's Legal Eagle Gun Emporium at the corner of 5th and 3rd Avenue!

Now they will have to go to Big Tony's Russian Kiosk behind the pool hall in the alley on Budda Bing Boulevard. Just look for the blue Yugo and say Big Tony sent ya for a 5 % discount on your first purchase!

I'm just curious about these kits they mentioned in the article. Who makes them, and where they are bought and sold? I'm wondering if home gunsmithing might become the new fad, just like homebrewing beer.

 

[Quetzal]

Gun culture in the US is wild. I hate it.

 

[Thief]

It's not going to pass anyways.

it's a strange world
I have been watching a young guy with a serious fascination for fire arms
but I think his funding for his channel got yanked

he was reviewing and comparing soooooooooooo many firearms

some of which skirt the current law
buy one now because they will disappear....that sort of thing

but I saw over and over......
explanation how the gun in his left hand.....was legal
and the gun in his right hand.....not

I am now thoroughly convinced......our law makers know SQUAT about firearms

and they don't care

they are knee jerking to public outcry

and most people......yes it's true......know SQUAT about firearms

shall we have another thread to address the REAL problem?

 

[Thief]

I'm just curious about these kits they mentioned in the article. Who makes them, and where they are bought and sold? I'm wondering if home gunsmithing might become the new fad, just like homebrewing beer.

have machines...
and beer....
soon to retire

what to do.....what to do

 

[Twilight Hue]

Gun culture in the US is wild. I hate it.

It's what got the freedoms you enjoy.

It can also take away freedoms as well.

I think its a matter of perception and risk assessment.

I don't trust the government as much as others do.

 

[Quetzal]

It's what got the freedoms you enjoy.

It can also take away freedoms as well.

I think its a matter of perception and risk assessment.

I don't trust the government as much as others do.

I certainly don't deny the history, but the culture that surrounds it is alarming. It is unique to the US and, in my opinion, is not something we should be proud of. We can have responsible firearm usage and have reasonable legislation to help curb gun violence. It is possible to have both.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I certainly don't deny the history, but the culture that surrounds it is alarming. It is unique to the US and, in my opinion, is not something we should be proud of. We can have responsible firearm usage and have reasonable legislation to help curb gun violence. It is possible to have both.

There is, and compromise is still a good thing.

On one hand there is still constitutional protections as the 2nd amendment and on the other there are issues that do need addressing in wake of mass murder and standing by doing nothing at all is not a solution either.

I don't think firearms are the core problem though. It's the mentality of people today that needs to be looked at more.

 

[PureX]

Gun culture in the US is wild. I hate it.

A fetish that's become an addiction.

 

[Quetzal]

On one hand there is still constitutional protections as the 2nd amendment and on the other there are issues that do need addressing in wake of mass murder and standing by doing nothing at all is not a solution either.

I don't think firearms are the core problem though. It's the mentality of people today that needs to be looked at more.

Another problem is we don't have very good data on the problem, right? It's abstract and always moving. It is a grey area for sure and I don't think anyone has much confidence in how to solve the issues we are talking about, sadly.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

It's what got the freedoms you enjoy.

What freedom did it get exactly?

 

[PureX]

Another problem is we don't have very good data on the problem, right? It's abstract and always moving. It is a grey area for sure and I don't think anyone has much confidence in how to solve the issues we are talking about, sadly.

We have mountains of data. And we have very workable solutions. What we don't have is the will.

The solution is to regulate ownership similar to the way we regulate motor vehicle use. And then impose heavy penalties on anyone who defies the regulation. It's not about denying people the right to own and use guns. It's about making sure that those who do so are and will continue doing so responsibly. That means they can show that they know the relevant laws, the necessary procedures and practices, are safe and proficient in handling, use, and can hit what they aim at. It also means they are willing to forfeit their license to own and use deadly weapons for any incidence of violence, stalking, threatening, domestic abuse, alcohol or drug abuse, or mental-emotional instability. (And of course, criminal activity.)

Show that you know how to own and use such weapons responsibly, and you can do so if you choose. But if you get caught defying this responsibility, you pay a very real and heavy price.

It's simple.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What freedom did it get exactly?

More freedom than China has.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

More freedom than China has.

And yet most other developed countries without toxic gun culture somehow still manage to be way better than this one.

 

[SigurdReginson]

Hmm... I don't know about "ghost guns," but my brother got an AR15 kit via the mail. All the legal by mail pieces were shipped to him, and all he had to do is buy the remaining pieces from a third party seller to assemple his gun. I think the whole process cost him some $1,500. Seems like a waste of money to me... He doesn't even take the thing out shooting. It's just something he has that takes up space in his gun safe.

It's his money, but I'd rather just get a hunting rifle - something that actually has a purpose (outside of warfare) and is much more practical.

 

[esmith]

We have mountains of data. And we have very workable solutions. What we don't have is the will.

The solution is to regulate ownership similar to the way we regulate motor vehicle use. And then impose heavy penalties on anyone who defies the regulation. It's not about denying people the right to own and use guns. It's about making sure that those who do so are and will continue doing so responsibly. That means they can show that they know the relevant laws, the necessary procedures and practices, are safe and proficient in handling, use, and can hit what they aim at. It also means they are willing to forfeit their license to own and use deadly weapons for any incidence of violence, stalking, threatening, domestic abuse, alcohol or drug abuse, or mental-emotional instability. (And of course, criminal activity.)

Show that you know how to own and use such weapons responsibly, and you can do so if you choose. But if you get caught defying this responsibility, you pay a very real and heavy price.

It's simple.

You do realize that they do not enforce the current laws don't you?....Obviously not.

 

[SigurdReginson]

More freedom than China has.

Why is it always that we use examples of nations with dictators when we say "at least we aren't..." I mean, if we have to look for places with terrible living conditions or oppression to make ourselves seem better, what does that say about us and the reality of our situation?