Big bang in reverse?

[S-word]

The point is s-word, that if god made billions of years in 7 days he can collapse billions of years in 7 days. Revelation speaks about this thing happening when the skies are 'rolled up like a garment'.

Heneni

No mate, each day is a period of universal activity, the first universe was nothing but a world of light, nothing else; a world of Giantic first generation stars, each one in time, collapsing in upon themselves after exploding off a percentage of their mass, then there was a period of darkness which to our finite minds would seem as an eternity. The black Holes left by the gravitational death of those first generation stars are the great Gatherers that are spread throughout inter-stella space, which are cathering to themselves the myriads of galaxies that have formed from the material that they expelled by their nova.

The nights and days of Brahma are called Manvantara or the cycle of manifestation, ‘The Great Day’ that is a period of universal activity, which is preceded, and also followed by ‘Pralaya,’ a dark period, which to our finite minds seems as an eternity.

Universe after universe is like an interminable succession of wheels forever coming into view, forever rolling onwards, disappearing and reappearing; forever passing from being to non being, and again from non being to being. In short, the constant revolving of the wheel of life in one eternal cycle, according to fixed and immutable laws, is perhaps after all the sum and substance of the philosophy of Buddhism. And this eternal wheel has so to speak, six spokes representing six forms of existence.” ---- Mon. Williams, Buddhism, pp. 229, 122.

This view of an eternal oscillating universe is not only held by the Hindu and many from the scientific community, but it is also held by many, many Christians who see the six days of creation as six periods of universal activity and that those universal bodies were the generations of the universe that led to the body in which a mind capable of comprehending mind, had evolved.

 

[Heneni]

No mate, each day is a period of universal activity, the first universe was nothing but a world of light, nothing else; a world of Giantic first generation stars, each one in time, collapsing in upon themselves after exploding off a percentage of their mass, then there was a period of darkness which to our finite minds would seem as an eternity. The black Holes left by the gravitational death of those first generation stars are the great Gatherers that are spread throughout inter-stella space, which are cathering to themselves the myriads of galaxies that have formed from the material that they expelled by their nova.

The nights and days of Brahma are called Manvantara or the cycle of manifestation, ‘The Great Day’ that is a period of universal activity, which is preceded, and also followed by ‘Pralaya,’ a dark period, which to our finite minds seems as an eternity.

Universe after universe is like an interminable succession of wheels forever coming into view, forever rolling onwards, disappearing and reappearing; forever passing from being to non being, and again from non being to being. In short, the constant revolving of the wheel of life in one eternal cycle, according to fixed and immutable laws, is perhaps after all the sum and substance of the philosophy of Buddhism. And this eternal wheel has so to speak, six spokes representing six forms of existence.” ---- Mon. Williams, Buddhism, pp. 229, 122.

This view of an eternal oscillating universe is not only held by the Hindu and many from the scientific community, but it is also held by many, many Christians who see the six days of creation as six periods of universal activity and that those universal bodies were the generations of the universe that led to the body in which a mind capable of comprehending mind, had evolved.

LOL....sword. I hope YOU understand all that.I think the OP premise is quite sound. The universe expands and contracts. Makes perfect sense to me.

God stretched out the heavens the bible says....if he stretched out the heavens he stretched out space and therefore time. God was not in the universes time or space, he was outside of it. It could have taken him one day or even less to stretch space and time out to a billion years.

The bible says that a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day to god. Time to god is not the same as time to us.

And also..if god is going to roll up the sky like a garment, it means that the universe will contract. Does that take billions of years? No it takes one day for god. In one day god can make a thousand years go by. Simply by manipulating time and space.

Heneni

 

[S-word]

LOL....sword. I hope YOU understand all that.I think the OP premise is quite sound. The universe expands and contracts. Makes perfect sense to me.

God stretched out the heavens the bible says....if he stretched out the heavens he stretched out space and therefore time. God was not in the universes time or space, he was outside of it. It could have taken him one day or even less to stretch space and time out to a billion years.

The bible says that a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day to god. Time to god is not the same as time to us.

And also..if god is going to roll up the sky like a garment, it means that the universe will contract. Does that take billions of years? No it takes one day for god. In one day god can make a thousand years go by. Simply by manipulating time and space.

Heneni

Quote...Heneni: LOL....sword. I hope YOU understand all that.I think the OP premise is quite sound. The universe expands and contracts. Makes perfect sense to me.
S-word: It makes perfect sense to me also mate.

God stretched out the heavens the bible says....
S-word: But he didn’t stretch out space and time as they didn't even exist before the big bang, space and time can only exist in the expansion of the infinitely dense, infinitely hot, and infinitesimally small primordial atom that has become the universal body, in which the Logos who is the divine animating principle, pervades all that is.

Quote...Heneni: if he stretched out the heavens—
S-word: Not if, for the Bible says that God did stretch out the heavens as a tent or tabernacle in which he dwells and in which he pervades and animates all that exists. Just as your body which is nothing more that the universal elements that are animated by the living Logos, is the tent in which you the mind are evolving, so too the universal body is the tent in which dwells the ever evolving mind of Our God, who presides in the heavenly council; and in the assembly of the gods gives his dicision

Quote...Heneni: he stretched out space and therefore time. God was not in the universes time or space, he was outside of it.
S-word: No! You are wrong Heneni; God is in the expanding universe, which he has stretched out as a physical body in which he/the eternal evolving mind, dwells, which universal expansion creates not only space, but time also.

Quote...Heneni: It could have taken him one day---
S-word: It did, as I have previously stated, but not a 24 hour day, for the days and nights of God are the periods of universal activity which has a time period of trillions and trillions of our 24 hour days, and his periods of rest, is when all that exists is condensed once more into the primordial atom from which all originated, and the nights of God are of equal duration to his periods of activity.


Quote...Heneni: Time to god is not the same as time to us.
S-word: I’m in total agreement: our day of 24 hours, cannot compare to his day of billions upon billions of years, eternity's a pretty long time don't you know? Do you even begin to realise how far back into eternity the oscillating process that you see today as the universal expansion and contraction has been going on? Think my friend, it has been going on for all of the beginninglessness of eternity.

Quote...Heneni: And also..if god is going to roll up the sky like a garment, it means that the universe will contract. Does that take billions of years?
S-word: Yes it does. The process of the contraction of this universal body which is but one of the members in the family that is God, who is the Cosmic consciousness and compilation of the many universal minds that develop in each of the many universal bodies, is already taking place. Our Milky Way galaxy is but one of a cluster of Galaxies that are falling in toward one of the many Great Gravitational Gatherers, around which has been gathered millions of galaxies, which were created by the super nova of the many first generation stars, from which residue the galaxies were created. But it will be billions of years before we fall as massive colomns of fire beyond all measure in height and depth into the yawning mouth of the seemingly bottomless pit, or Great Abyss, which is the prison of all the stars and the host of heaven.

 

[themadhair]

And yet, it comes to the same conclusion as religion, big bang and big crunch....

Only if you ignore the literally thousands of guess that can’t be twisted to resemble what physical evidence has demonstrated.

why?

In this case you are simply displaying conformational bias.

there is nothing new under the sun, just different ways of stating the same thing, that really is all modern science is, in the main

Because the act of having a wild guess is completely similar to the act of actually producing evidence for a claim. It is somewhat disconcerting to me when people will attempt to put the myriad of random guesses as produced by various religions on the same footing as an evidence based explanation.