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Billy Bragg - Rich Men Earning North of a Million

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I'm in a union. Doesn't do **** for me. My union dues are probably going towards the union local's president's ridiculous 6 figure salary.
 

Soandso

ᛋᛏᚨᚾᛞ ᛋᚢᚱᛖ
I'm in a union. Doesn't do **** for me. My union dues are probably going towards the union local's president's ridiculous 6 figure salary.

Speaking from my own experience, the union at my hospital could do more for the workers they represent, but when I look how the actual company I work for exploits it's work force in the other hospitals they own that don't have unions... I'll take the extra pay and benefits

What business do you work for, if you don't mind my asking?
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
I'm in a union. Doesn't do **** for me. My union dues are probably going towards the union local's president's ridiculous 6 figure salary.
The power of unions varies, depending on the grade of employee and industry sector.
Work in a shop? Strike forever mate.
Commercial airline pilot? ****, this dispute needs settling.

On a related note....what cheeses me off is people who only join a union for themselves (and ignore any democratic decisions made by the membership). For example, a work colleague who was "anti-union" (ie doesn't give a stuff about colleagues) injured their hand at work. He wanted help to claim compensation. He joined the union, the union helped him, he got compensation and then guess what - he came out of the union.

Even better...a pay claim was dismissed by my employer. The union voted for a strike. Most of the membership rightly joined the strike and we won our pay rise. I asked a colleague why they weren't in the union. Their reply was: "Well you lost pay when you went on strike and I didn't. And now, the same as you, I benefit from the pay rise." Contemptable isn't in it.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm in a union. Doesn't do **** for me. My union dues are probably going towards the union local's president's ridiculous 6 figure salary.
When I was a mover, I had to join the Teamsters , later on my local was busted for mob activity within the leadership.

That was back in the 80s.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Don't understand why there is a problem with Billy Bragg singing this song. So what if he may be "rich".
Many "rich" men and women tell a story either in song or the written word. At least the ideas are being promulgated.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Don't understand why there is a problem with Billy Bragg singing this song. So what if he may be "rich".
Many "rich" men and women tell a story either in song or the written word. At least the ideas are being promulgated.
Well, it'd be the hypocrisy, I suppose. Kind of discredits the message when the guy singing about the abuse of the working class by the rich when the singer is taking in millions of working people's hard earned dollars just for singing them a few songs. Don't you think?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Speaking from my own experience, the union at my hospital could do more for the workers they represent, but when I look how the actual company I work for exploits it's work force in the other hospitals they own that don't have unions... I'll take the extra pay and benefits

What business do you work for, if you don't mind my asking?
I'm a wage slave at Kroger, one of the worst companies you could have the misfortune to work for.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Rich man singing about rich men.


However you’re defining rich, I doubt it applies to Billy Bragg.

“Working class bloke who’s had some limited commercial success during a Iong career as a songwriter and activist, sings about rich men” would be more accurate, if a little less snappy.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
However you’re defining rich, I doubt it applies to Billy Bragg.

“Working class bloke who’s had some limited commercial success during a Iong career as a songwriter and activist, sings about rich men” would be more accurate, if a little less snappy.
Good point. Especially these days when record sales mean almost nothing economically. And streams pay even less. The only way musicians can make any money is by playing live, and that costs a lot to do. The Taylor Swifts are raking in millions, but only because they can play for 5,000 people at a $100 and more a ticket.

Most artists are nowhere near that kind of draw.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Well, it'd be the hypocrisy, I suppose. Kind of discredits the message when the guy singing about the abuse of the working class by the rich when the singer is taking in millions of working people's hard earned dollars just for singing them a few songs. Don't you think?
Do you not listen or read news stories and believe them, arn't the sources "rich"
I guess it's all in one's bias what one spouts.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Do you not listen or read news stories and believe them, arn't the sources "rich"
We aren't talking about news stories. We're talking about shared experiences of being. A writer does not have to be the character he is writing about. But to do it well, and have it be an effective character, the writer will have to know the truth of that character's experiences and circumstances. And that's hard to do when they are not at all similar to one's own. Not impossible, but not easy, either. And the reader will smell the inauthenticity if it's there.

I guess it's all in one's bias what one spouts.
We are ALL biased. Which is why we need to be aware of it and adjust our communications accordingly.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
However you’re defining rich, I doubt it applies to Billy Bragg.

“Working class bloke who’s had some limited commercial success during a Iong career as a songwriter and activist, sings about rich men” would be more accurate, if a little less snappy.
His net worth is listed at 5 million.


He's wealthy.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
He's wealthy.

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ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
I'm in a union. Doesn't do **** for me. My union dues are probably going towards the union local's president's ridiculous 6 figure salary.
So, you're not entitled to any healthcare benefits, support or protections against unpaid overtime, and they have never negotiated for better pay, etc.? They literally do nothing?
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So, you're not entitled to any healthcare benefits, support or protections against unpaid overtime, and they have never negotiated for better pay, etc.? They literally do nothing?
Um, those things are the same with or without a union. The law requires employers with over 50 employees to offer healthcare with or without any union. Similarly there are laws about overtime pay. Furthermore there are other institutions that negotiate for employees besides unions such as professional organizations. Unions represent a mere 11% of employees and declining. Shrinking union membership indicates that people don't want them.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member


Іf уоu’rе ѕellіng your soul working all day
Overtime hours fоr bull**** pay
Well nothing’s gonna сhangе іf all you do
Iѕ wish уоu could wake up and it not be true

Јoin a union
Fіght fоr bettеr pay
You better јoin a union brother
Organise tоday
You’ll sеe where the problеm really lies
When the unіon comеѕ arоund
Rich men earning north of a million
Wanna keep the working folk down
Wanna keеp the working fоlk down

If you form a union уоu’ll soon find
Тhat workіng people are all of оnе kind
Ѕo we ain’t gonna punch down on thоse who need


A bit of undеrstanding and some ѕolіdarity
That ain’t right friend

If you’re strugglіng with yоur health and you’rе putting on the pounds
Doctоr gives уou opiates to help you gеt arоund
Well wouldn’t іt be better for folkѕ likе you and me
If mediсine was subsidіsed and hеalthcare waѕ free?

Jоin a union
Fight for bettеr pay
Сome on and jоin a unіon sister
Organise today
Іt comes down tо thе ѕelfsame thing
If уou’re black or white or brown
Rich men earning north of a million
Wanna kеep the wоrkіng folk down
Wanna keep thе working folk dоwn



Well we know your culture wars are thеre to distraсt
While libertarіan billionaires avоid payіng taх
You wanna talk about bathroomѕ whilе the flоodwaters rise
The forеst is on fire and the wіnd burnѕ our eyes ah!
Sоmеthing’s wrong here

Well they wanna dividе us because together wе’re ѕtrong
Are уou gоnna take action now you sung your damn sоng?
If you don’t lіke thе rich men having total contrоl
You better get the union to roll

Jоin a union
Fіght for bеtter pay
Come on and jоin a union
Organise todaу
Don’t matter if you lіvе in the city
Or sоme little сountry town
Rich men earning north of a million
Rich men earning north of a million
I ѕay rich men earning north of a million
Wanna keеp the working folk dоwn
Wanna keep the workіng folk down

If уou’rе selling yоur soul and you’re working all day
Overtime hours fоr bull**** pay
Joіn a union


Read More @LyricsMoj.com: Rich Men Earning North Of A Million Lyrics - Billy Bragg - LyricsMoj
Oh God not Billy Bragg. He’s been a terrible bore for about 30 years, with his adolescent political views and whining lyrics.

I have no time for that guy whatsoever. :rolleyes:
 
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