Bisexuality - Is it a thing?

[Gjallarhorn]

Pie and cake exists, yet the world believes you must only have interest in one. Someone comes along who has the capacity to enjoy both and suddenly hysteria!

...or they are written off as whores. Either way.

 

[Nymphs]

It apparently is a thing, but I find it hard to believe bisexuals do not inevitably prefer one gender over another given enough time & experience, even if it is only a slight preference.

I'm pretty evenly split down the middle. In fact, I've done the Kinsey Scale test several times and have always come up with smack dab in the middle. I like the ladies and I like the guys. Both are pretty damn fabulous if you ask me.

 

[Nymphs]

Definitely, I know I am bisexual at the very least sexually. I ended up in a heterosexual relationship, because that's who I fell in love with. Unless you're poly or into open relationships, you're going to end up with a gender or the other...

If you're mono, you're going to be with either a guy or a girl - each side is going to deny you liking the other gender? That's just silly!

I've mentioned it before, but I was married to a man (still am -- almost 10 years!) before I realized I was bisexual. About three or four years in I realized and came out to him. And I had to 'deny' that part of me, which was really hard. But, in the last year we've become polyamorous so luckily enough, I don't have to deny it anymore.

Although, most people don't know about us being open like that, so I'm constantly having to come out as bisexual.

 

[Nymphs]

Pie and cake exists, yet the world believes you must only have interest in one. Someone comes along who has the capacity to enjoy both and suddenly hysteria!

...or they are written off as whores. Either way.

But don't you know...I am a whore! :cover:

 

[The Sum of Awe]

If someone says "Mom? Dad? I'm homosexual", that would be understood as him/her being attracted to their same sex. If they're attracted to more than their own sex, and are not strictly homosexual, then the term is an inaccurate description for them, and unhelpful.

"Bisexual", "Pansexual" or any other identification then would be a necessity, and nothing short. This is how people communicate and distinct things from each other.

I think you missed my point.

What are the chances that the parents are going to understand all of those terms anyways? Or even care about the extended? I'd bet they'd care less about what you're into and more of what you're doing.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

People use the words to describe themselves that they feel are the most fitting and sometimes it's more than one word or words that are more obscure. After all, gender and sexual orientation aren't black and white for everyone and it can hard to describe yourself using language.

It's like me. I'm pansexual, but I'm also queer because queer is a an umbrella term that can also include pansexuality. Queer is also a more explicitly political term that expresses rejection of heteronormativity and the gender-binary. As Wiki says: "Queer may be used by those who reject traditional gender identities as a broader, less conformist, and deliberately ambiguous alternative to LGBT."

Medically, I'm a transsexual because I view myself as wholly male/a man and my gender doesn't fluctuate, and I'm also changing my body to fit my perception of myself. But I'm also transgender because my gender expression isn't necessarily gender-normative. I do not fit into mainstream heterosexist, cissexist and macho standards of what a male/man is and never will.

Yeah, I already know that. Honestly, the detail is important to some degree, but the rest isn't. If someone is discussing transexuality, that's the time. When someone is discussing sexual orientation (specifically; do you have a set or not) then there is no need to go into detail about it; it's asking presently, I really doubt the people studying the paper with said question wish to read a huge paragraph about how someone is technically another gender, or a third gender.

 

[Badran]

I think you missed my point.

What are the chances that the parents are going to understand all of those terms anyways? Or even care about the extended? I'd bet they'd care less about what you're into and more of what you're doing.

Well what i was saying was exactly that i don't think it's an extended thing. It's not something extra, optional, additional, or anything along those lines, in my view. It directly describes something different, something distinct. On some levels, distinctions might a bit too detailed and small that they can be left unsaid at first and only clarified if extra clarification is needed, and that's reasonable, but i don't think this level is the same level that you're talking about.

When someone says that they're bisexual rather than homosexual, that means they're attracted to more than one gender, and that's quite different from being attracted to just your same gender. This is not a small piece of information unless you're looking at this like there are just two categories, "straight" and "gay", and the rest is just additional clarification, which i think would be an unnecessarily simplistic categorization for someone who knows better and more importantly, evidently an unhelpful one considering the complexity of the reality of the issue.

You've also lumped in issues about gender identification which i think is even more simplistic, because those are two separate issues. If someone says they identify as a male or female or something else, that doesn't say anything about what they're attracted to, it doesn't address their sexual orientation. Every identification of those has it's purpose and context.

You asked what are the chances that the parents are going to understand or care about those terms. People might not care about things they're not properly knowledgeable or aware of, but once they're made aware, the chances of them caring and understanding the importance of those terms increases. "What you're into" and "What you're doing" are related to each other, and i think the first, granting we're intending to address with it basically "What you are", is definitely more important than just what you're currently doing.

 

[Nymphs]

Yeah, I already know that. Honestly, the detail is important to some degree, but the rest isn't. If someone is discussing transexuality, that's the time. When someone is discussing sexual orientation (specifically; do you have a set or not) then there is no need to go into detail about it; it's asking presently, I really doubt the people studying the paper with said question wish to read a huge paragraph about how someone is technically another gender, or a third gender.

Well, when you are bisexual, sometimes you do need to go into detail.

 

[Amechania]

As a bisexual I have to question whether heterosexuality or homosexuality is a real thing, or are you people just too frightened to admit your innate bisexuality?:sarcastic

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Woah, I never said bisexual was an unnecessary title. I said there may be some use for it. I'm talking about the words like pansexual, trigender, transsexual, etc. They're useful when the topic comes up relating to it, but not very important for the main.

I could care less if you say you're a pansexual; I don't consider transsexuality to be a third gender. The main two; male and female, are the most common. I don't find intersexuality to be anything of my concern because there's nobody I know that is intersex. I can see how it can be a concern for another who does know an intersexed person.

I also could care less if you tell me you're transsexual; tell me if you're a male or female currently, that's good enough. If a question asks you "Sex" on an application for a job, you'd mark male or female, probably by current orientation. If you mark both, or draw a third box with a big paragraph next to it talking about how complicated a usually simplistic thing is for you, then don't hold too high of hopes. If they don't hire you because of that, don't call it discrimination - call it people who don't have the patience or interest to care.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Woah, I never said bisexual was an unnecessary title. I said there may be some use for it. I'm talking about the words like pansexual, trigender, transsexual, etc. They're useful when the topic comes up relating to it, but not very important for the main.

I could care less if you say you're a pansexual; I don't consider transsexuality to be a third gender. The main two; male and female, are the most common. I don't find intersexuality to be anything of my concern because there's nobody I know that is intersex. I can see how it can be a concern for another who does know an intersexed person.

I also could care less if you tell me you're transsexual; tell me if you're a male or female currently, that's good enough. If a question asks you "Sex" on an application for a job, you'd mark male or female, probably by current orientation. If you mark both, or draw a third box with a big paragraph next to it talking about how complicated a usually simplistic thing is for you, then don't hold too high of hopes. If they don't hire you because of that, don't call it discrimination - call it people who don't have the patience or interest to care.

Transsexualism is a medical term, fyi.

 

[columbus]

Woah, I never said bisexual was an unnecessary title. I said there may be some use for it. I'm talking about the words like pansexual, trigender, transsexual, etc. They're useful when the topic comes up relating to it, but not very important for the main.

I could care less if you say you're a pansexual; I don't consider transsexuality to be a third gender. The main two; male and female, are the most common. I don't find intersexuality to be anything of my concern because there's nobody I know that is intersex. I can see how it can be a concern for another who does know an intersexed person.

I also could care less if you tell me you're transsexual; tell me if you're a male or female currently, that's good enough. If a question asks you "Sex" on an application for a job, you'd mark male or female, probably by current orientation. If you mark both, or draw a third box with a big paragraph next to it talking about how complicated a usually simplistic thing is for you, then don't hold too high of hopes. If they don't hire you because of that, don't call it discrimination - call it people who don't have the patience or interest to care.

Frubal for you.

Tom

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I love it when people gripe at the use of more obscure terms instead of taking the time to actually learn about them. Knowledge is never a bad thing.

 

[Nymphs]

I love it when people gripe at the use of more obscure terms instead of taking the time to actually learn about them. Knowledge is never a bad thing.

You must spread some Frubals around before giving it to saint_frankenstein again.

 

[psychoslice]

I don't see how labeling myself as bisexual complicates anything? In fact, I feel it clarifies.

Well your a label type person, you need it.

 

[Nymphs]

Well your a label type person, you need it.

So is most of humanity....

 

[Drolefille]

I could care less if you say you're a pansexual;

So you do care?

If you don't care why fuss about the labels others use?

If you don't understand why I would call myself pansexual rather than bisexual or why I also call myself sapiosexual - then you have two reasonable options:
1. Roll with whatever I say I am
2. Ask questions until you understand.

Neither of these requires you to do anything but respect the other person.

Also you did say that you considered all the terms unnecessary:

I think of it the same way I do hetero and homo, and all the other wild, unnecessary terms out there.

You consider biseuxality as a term = hetero = homo = "wild unneccessary."

If that's not what you meant you may want to rephrase that.

 

[psychoslice]

So is most of humanity....

Does that make you feel better ?.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I love it when people gripe at the use of more obscure terms instead of taking the time to actually learn about them. Knowledge is never a bad thing.

I do know what transsexualism is, I had met plenty (over the internet), to the point it seems that it isn't uncommon. Many of them, though, grow up to be hipsters rather than the opposite gender.

 

[Drolefille]

I do know what transsexualism is, I had met plenty (over the internet), to the point it seems that it isn't uncommon. Many of them, though, grow up to be hipsters rather than the opposite gender.

Um. No. This is just no in so many ways. :no::no::no::no::no: