Yeah, it's a ghetto thing that is promoted in the media. It's part of street gang concepts of masculinity.
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Oh, I know. I'm half-black, myself. I'm just very distressed and sad about the state of black America.
leibowde84
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You might want to look into Malcom X and his followers before you claim that the Civil Rights era was peaceful in that respect. But, that being said, Baltimore Police have been an extremely racist group since the 60s. I went to Law School in downtown Baltimore and there are obvious problems on both sides of this issue. Certainly not as cut and dry as you propose.So there was riots and looting in Baltimore during the protests of Freddie Gray's death in police custody on Saturday night:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/26/us/baltimore-crowd-swells-in-protest-of-freddie-grays-death.html
Rioting In Baltimore While 'Nerd Prom' Rages 40 Miles Away | The Daily Caller
MASS RIOTING IN BALTIMORE – Far Left Protesters Loot, Chuck Rocks at Police, Smash Windows (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit
The rioting and flash mobs are out of hand. Black people are just making themselves look bad by acting like savages. That's not how black people during the Civil Rights era strived for a recognition of their dignity and won their rights. MLK and his followers didn't go around rioting and looting. No wonder why so many older black people are ashamed of younger blacks. It's pathetic. Stop acting like hoodlums and thugs and taking your cues from Far-Leftist agitators who don't give two ****s about you and are only using you as a pawn.
Despicable..
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Malcom X was extremely Muslim. He converted while in prison. Before that, he was a mere drug-dealing roughian. It certainly changed his outlook big time.
The rioting and flash mobs are out of hand. Black people are just making themselves look bad by acting like savages. That's not how black people during the Civil Rights era strived for a recognition of their dignity and won their rights. MLK and his followers didn't go around rioting and looting. No wonder why so many older black people are ashamed of younger blacks. It's pathetic. Stop acting like hoodlums and thugs and taking your cues from Far-Leftist agitators who don't give two ****s about you and are only using you as a pawn.
Despicable.
I agree that they should choose more peaceful forms of protest, but considering the incidents involving the police lately, I can't say that I'm entirely unsympathetic. The police embarrass themselves, too, and some might even suggest that they act like hoodlums and thugs on occasion.
There were riots and violence during the 60s, too. It wasn't all just "peace" and "love" back then.
Wirey
Fartist
I know, right? After all that peaceful crap they pulled in the 60s, nothing has changed. Their children are still being gunned down in the street by the actual police. So, they should go back to what didn't work the first time. Great plan.
The Watts riots led to change. Maybe you guys are due for another round.
The Watts riots led to change. Maybe you guys are due for another round.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Justified Sarcasm.
Wirey
Fartist
I grew up in a predominantly black neighbourhood, and most of my friends are black. Hell, if it wasn't for breast cancer my first wife would have probably been black. And "Black people, just keep getting murdered and don't react" is about the most pointlessly racist thing I've seen here. That other posters agreed with him is worse. No wonder they're rioting. Wouldn't you?
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
There's a funny video of an RT reporter catching some "opinion"(YEAH YEAH WOOOORLDSTAAAAR) of the local "youth" until her handbag gets stolen.
A short hunt ensues where the reporter actually screams "cyka"(I won't translate it, Puritans might be offended) and then gets her handbag back, courtesy of the fascist police of Freedom against which she usually rambles.
Hilarious. She even cried.
A short hunt ensues where the reporter actually screams "cyka"(I won't translate it, Puritans might be offended) and then gets her handbag back, courtesy of the fascist police of Freedom against which she usually rambles.
Hilarious. She even cried.
Anyone asking men to stop embarrassing themselves? Or that these thug men are only perpetuating the picture of men always being the aggressor in situations and getting out of control? And that this is why men will never have equality in domestic violence shelters, custody hearings in divorce, and that male victims of domestic violence and rape are never taken seriously?
No? Nobody asking that? I agree and that it's problematic to ask such questions. Why? It sounds incredibly sexist against men. And because it is.
No? Nobody asking that? I agree and that it's problematic to ask such questions. Why? It sounds incredibly sexist against men. And because it is.
Oh! I did not know that, man. My bad.
Sadly when black have a real concern that needs addressed and solutions found many resort to mindless
violence.
It's a proven fact (Ferguson) that blacks from way outside the affected area show up for another opportunty
to loot, burn & steal.
This kind of thing reflects badly on the black community as a whole.
Blacks took government appeasement money long ago and made it a multi-generational way of life.
Education, opportunity, jobs, are key to social ills.
Darned shame so few young blacks take advantage of the educational opportunities available to them.
Several years ago our police department advertised the need for 4 more officers.
Appeal was made to the black communinty for recruits. We got ONE applicant and he was from another city.
Of 55 officers in a city 40% black we had but 3 black officers.
One became a slum-lord, owning 60 low income units (good money in that) another made sgt. was a wonderful
man and my mentor, the other became my partner in the detective division. He was caught selling crack and did prison
time.
violence.
It's a proven fact (Ferguson) that blacks from way outside the affected area show up for another opportunty
to loot, burn & steal.
This kind of thing reflects badly on the black community as a whole.
Blacks took government appeasement money long ago and made it a multi-generational way of life.
Education, opportunity, jobs, are key to social ills.
Darned shame so few young blacks take advantage of the educational opportunities available to them.
Several years ago our police department advertised the need for 4 more officers.
Appeal was made to the black communinty for recruits. We got ONE applicant and he was from another city.
Of 55 officers in a city 40% black we had but 3 black officers.
One became a slum-lord, owning 60 low income units (good money in that) another made sgt. was a wonderful
man and my mentor, the other became my partner in the detective division. He was caught selling crack and did prison
time.
Unfortunately, the people who disagree with you don't see minorities getting "murdered". They see it as thugs who were criminals who were rightfully shot or choked or beaten dead by law enforcement.
Or they will say that white people get shot as much too, but then will emphasize that white people don't riot (well we do, but only when our sports team wins championships, yet they're just being just reckless youth and it's not at all a white people problem so nothing to see here folks move along).
So according to the other side, black people don't get murdered by police in any notable rate. Doesn't happen and nothing you can say will convince them that it happens.
There's a funny video of an RT reporter catching some "opinion"(YEAH YEAH WOOOORLDSTAAAAR) of the local "youth" until her handbag gets stolen.
A short hunt ensues where the reporter actually screams "cyka"(I won't translate it, Puritans might be offended) and then gets her handbag back, courtesy of the fascist police of Freedom against which she usually rambles.
Hilarious. She even cried.
Kind of a grim and disgraceful scene all the way around, although I didn't see much humor in it. I'm not sure what kind of "opinion" the reporter was getting, and she didn't seem to have much street sense or situational awareness. Some of these reporters and the media overall seem to be part of the problem here. The whole scene here in this video seems to exude a certain level of cluelessness which is hard to fathom.
I think it reflects badly on the whole country. I don't think there's any such thing as a "black community" or a "white community." If we all live in the same country, then, in effect, we're all part of the same "community." In a culture which glorifies violence and treats white-collar crime with a nod and a wink, why should it be all that surprising when it has an impact on various sub-cultures in America? I'm not saying that it justifies what they do, but when it comes to how it reflects on the community, it reflects on everybody to some extent.
I think part of the problem may be due to our history - something we can't really change, but perhaps some people thought the only thing to do was to throw money at the problem, whether it's "appeasement money" or whatever one wants to call it. Maybe that wasn't the right approach.
I agree that education is a major factor, but it's also true that many schools in some of the lower income areas are sub-par or underperforming. It's kind of a vicious cycle, too, since the districts with higher crime rates find it difficult to find very many qualified or talented teachers who actually want to work in these schools, even if they are offered more money. There may be "educational opportunities" in the form of scholarships and college money once they get to that age, but if their K-12 education was lacking or insufficient, they may not be adequately prepared for college.
But again, I don't think throwing money at the problem is the answer. I see it as an organizational and philosophical problem more than anything else.
Yeah, no - none of these riots ever brought positive change, as far as I know. They're stupid and just tearing up their own neighborhoods. Oh, and they're rioting again right now: Protesters clash with police in Baltimore
And, yes - I'm aware that there was violence in the '60s. I know about the Watts riots and such. However, it wasn't the violent parts of the civil rights movement that resulted in positive changes for black people in the '60s.
@leibowde84:
Malcolm X was a part of the Nation of Islam at first, which is a black supremacist sect that really has nothing to do with actual Islam. It was only towards the end of his life after he went to the Hajj that he dropped his racism, become an orthodox Muslim and preached against racism of any sort. Soon after, he was murdered. Fancy that!
And, yes - I'm aware that there was violence in the '60s. I know about the Watts riots and such. However, it wasn't the violent parts of the civil rights movement that resulted in positive changes for black people in the '60s.
@leibowde84:
Malcolm X was a part of the Nation of Islam at first, which is a black supremacist sect that really has nothing to do with actual Islam. It was only towards the end of his life after he went to the Hajj that he dropped his racism, become an orthodox Muslim and preached against racism of any sort. Soon after, he was murdered. Fancy that!
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Oh, stop with your PC bull****. Yeah, I'm racist against black people for pointing out that they have a problem that only they can fix. Yeah, okay.
No, I don't listen to stupid rhetoric like that. I'm half-black and have lived in the inner city almost all my life. I know very well what the situation is. I'm not interested in being lectured by white liberals who really are a cause of some of the problems in black America by pushing this victimhood nonsense and coddling minorities.Truthfully, at this point, if I was going to be racist, I'd be racist against both black and white people because my experiences with both as a mixed person have been less than stellar. I'd start a Mulatto Pride or Grey Power movement because, after all, aren't we the real minority out of the two.
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