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BLM Hurting Blacks-Brandon Tatum

Secret Chief

Veteran Member
Yes. Protect the border so we know who is entering the country.
Put criminals in jail. Don't let men compete in girl's sports. Treat each person as an individual, not as a monolithic cog in some identity group.
Let people with different opinions express their views even if hateful or stupid. Don't take guns from law abiding citizens.
So as I said, you think that common sense equates to your rightwing views and that people who do not share your ideology should drop their ideology and take on your ideology. Of course those with a leftwing ideology might like you to drop your rightwing ideology and take on their leftwing ideology. Perhaps some of these with that leftwing ideology believe that their ideology equates to common sense - whatever that is. Oh yes, I remember, it's agreeing with you.
 

KW

Well-Known Member
So as I said, you think that common sense equates to your rightwing views and that people who do not share your ideology should drop their ideology and take on your ideology. Of course those with a leftwing ideology might like you to drop your rightwing ideology and take on their leftwing ideology. Perhaps some of these with that leftwing ideology believe that their ideology equates to common sense - whatever that is. Oh yes, I remember, it's agreeing with you.

The leftist agenda exists with or without me.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
BLM can't be a Marxist group. Marx teaches that all struggle is class struggle, not race struggle. So a Marxist would agree with @Twilight Hue that all lives matter. Hmm ... maybe @Twilight Hue is a Marxist?
Ever wonder why the founders even bothered to mention they were trained Marxists if it had nothing to do with BLM like you imply?
 
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KW

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Yes, both "sides" have subjective views which are diametrically opposed and see the other side as deficient in some way. Both.

Both can’t be right.

Do you think men should compete in womens sports?

Do you think schools should be teaching elementary children about various sexual practices?

Do you think anyone in the world should be able to stroll into our country and set up camp?

Do you think the federal government should take more of our gdp?

Do you think a photo ID should be required for voting?

Do you think police are the enemy?

Do you think violent criminals should receive short sentences?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Leftism better describes what is happening in the Democrat Party today.
And what is it you are seeing? You call it leftism, and imply that is bad, but you still haven't explained how it's bad, nor how this political approach harms America and people as you have claimed. Do you not have an explanation?

If Leftism were defeated as an ideology, we would see increased prosperty, better education, more security/less crime, and better relations between individuals. Leftism is divisive and counter productive.
Well this is a bold claim. Give us your explanation how all this would happen. Be sure to use facts and avoid your bias against Democrats.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Both can’t be right.

Do you think men should compete in womens sports?
So you're being dishonest in how you refer to trans people because that is a far right prejudice these days. Do you realize women are mostly open to trans people in their sports? Why do you have a problem with it?

Do you think schools should be teaching elementary children about various sexual practices?
Show us evidence that this happens.

Do you think anyone in the world should be able to stroll into our country and set up camp?
Another misleading question. It is international law for immigrants to apply for asylum. No political party is open to illegal immigration. Neither party is making any progress in immigration reform, so our nation is stuck.

Do you think the federal government should take more of our gdp?
What does this mean? GPD is a general number of our economy.

Do you think a photo ID should be required for voting?
Most everyone accepts this now, so a useless attempt at division here. What Democrats opposed was ID laws that Republicans imposed that intended to turnoff minorities at voting polls.

Do you think police are the enemy?
Poorly trained police are the enemy to society. But most police officers are competent and perform their sworn duty. Bad cops need to be weeded out. Do you disagree?

Do you think violent criminals should receive short sentences?
Who would think this is a good idea? I agree the Jan 6 criminals should be locked up for appropriate sentences. What do you think?
 

Secret Chief

Veteran Member
Both can’t be right.

Do you think men should compete in womens sports?

Do you think schools should be teaching elementary children about various sexual practices?

Do you think anyone in the world should be able to stroll into our country and set up camp?

Do you think the federal government should take more of our gdp?

Do you think a photo ID should be required for voting?

Do you think police are the enemy?

Do you think violent criminals should receive short sentences?

To be fair, given we live in different countries it is difficult to consider some of these (eg the police question - there seems to be an issue in your country that is not so in mine). Generally though the inferred attitudes of your questions suggest we would not agree on much. Or to put it in your terms: you lack common sense :)
 

KW

Well-Known Member
To be fair, given we live in different countries it is difficult to consider some of these (eg the police question - there seems to be an issue in your country that is not so in mine). Generally though the inferred attitudes of your questions suggest we would not agree on much. Or to put it in your terms: you lack common sense :)

Why not stick to the facts?
 

Secret Chief

Veteran Member
Do you think men should compete in womens sports?

No.

Do you think schools should be teaching elementary children about various sexual practices?

How old are "elementary children"? What practices?

Do you think anyone in the world should be able to stroll into our country and set up camp?

Your country or mine? Stroll, set up camp... I can see your opinion in your question of course.

Do you think the federal government should take more of our gdp?

I don't understand the question. Does the government take my gross domestic product?

Do you think a photo ID should be required for voting?

Not if the real reason for it is voter supression.

Do you think police are the enemy?

No.

Do you think violent criminals should receive short sentences?

No.
 

BrightShadow

Active Member
Former Police Officer Brandon Tatum:



This is not hurting White people. It's making other Black people become more violent [and] feel like their life is endangered by police. They're going to end up getting hurt and end up dying and not having patrols in their communities, which makes their communities more violent. It's not hurting White people. It's hurting Black people and is perpetuated by a lot of Black leaders.

LeBron James is living on a high horse in a multimillion dollar house, living near nothing but White people. At the drop of a dime, he will have White officers at his house doing investigations on false claims, if there are some. LeBron James and the people like the BLM cofounder living in million-dollar houses, they don't care ... I really wish they would be held accountable and at least be ashamed of what they're doing to our country.

In many cases what BLM does are quite counter productive!
Our nation is very divided. It is a melting pot!
Left and right are both wrong and both leading the nation to the grounds.
What Trump did after losing election and what BLM does is identical.
Trump called "wolf wolf wolf" after losing election and stirred up the crowd and then they attacked the capitol and BLM does exactly the same! Before even checking the merit of an incident (with police) -they stir up the crowd and then as a result - create riots. Same difference!
This will go like this until one side shed off their political motivations and greediness and start thinking about the future of the country. This need to happen soon otherwise there won't be a world (Yes a world) left to save.
When America is busy licking its self inflicted wound - the world is ignored and dictators like Xi, Putin, Modi, Kim are joining hands and doing business together against the rest of the world.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
 

KW

Well-Known Member
In many cases what BLM does are quite counter productive!
Our nation is very divided. It is a melting pot!
Left and right are both wrong and both leading the nation to the grounds.
What Trump did after losing election and what BLM does is identical.
Trump called "wolf wolf wolf" after losing election and stirred up the crowd and then they attacked the capitol and BLM does exactly the same! Before even checking the merit of an incident (with police) -they stir up the crowd and then as a result - create riots. Same difference!
This will go like this until one side shed off their political motivations and greediness and start thinking about the future of the country. This need to happen soon otherwise there won't be a world (Yes a world) left to save.
When America is busy licking its self inflicted wound - the world is ignored and dictators like Xi, Putin, Modi, Kim are joining hands and doing business together against the rest of the world.
Wake up and smell the coffee!


There was voter fraud.

Should we work to stop voter fraud?
 

BrightShadow

Active Member
There was voter fraud.

Should we work to stop voter fraud?
I don't believe there was any significant case of voter fraud. However, Yes! I am in favor of National ID and nationwide federal guidelines. Results effects nationwide - so why not federal rules?

It may seem Trump had more supporters because Biden couldn't draw a crowd and but Trump did.
Reality was - people didn't vote for Biden - they voted against Trump.
That is why Trump was baffled! I think regardless of Trump's "America first" philosophy (which is a bit needed right now) - his disposition simply sucks! You need a Reagan or McCain kind of personality to be a president.
If a monkey ran from the left instead of Biden - I think the monkey would have won in 2020. So, I am pretty sure election wasn't rigged!
 

KW

Well-Known Member
I don't believe there was any significant case of voter fraud. However, Yes! I am in favor of National ID and nationwide federal guidelines. Results effects nationwide - so why not federal rules?

It may seem Trump had more supporters because Biden couldn't draw a crowd and but Trump did.
Reality was - people didn't vote for Biden - they voted against Trump.
That is why Trump was baffled! I think regardless of Trump's "America first" philosophy (which is a bit needed right now) - his disposition simply sucks! You need a Reagan or McCain kind of personality to be a president.
If a monkey ran from the left instead of Biden - I think the monkey would have won in 2020. So, I am pretty sure election wasn't rigged!

I agree that the Biden vote was an anti Trump vote.

However, there are many reasons to believe that fraud was a factor.
 
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