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Book Burning: Bible, koran, torah, wicca, scientology, buddhism etc.
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Yep, what is the line from one of the Indiana Jones movies? Something about "...Morons should spend more time reading books rather than burning them..."? That pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Personally it's just paper with words. Having said that I find that some of those books don't need to be burned. Some of them I have no experience with. I think books, even religious ones, have value.
Now let me just clarify something....Please don't let the actions of some Atheists make you believe we're all like that.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
HA! - anyone who thinks that book burning represents atheists already has such a twisted view of atheists, that it doesn't matter what the truth is.
Erebus
Well-Known Member
Just to add to what Jasonwill2 and Ultraviolet have already touched on, desecration rituals are actually relatively common. I burned my bible as a teenager when I turned away from Christianity, I wouldn't have the need to do that anymore as I no longer have to deal with the remnants of a Christian(ish) upbringing. The satanic black mass is similar in principle, it's an inversion of Christian ritual intended not to cause offence to Christians, but to rid participants of Christian guilt.
I've also burned photographs, valentines cards and a piece of jewelry for much the same reason, to help rid myself of thoughts and feelings that I no longer care for.
I think I mentioned in one of the LHP threads that as a practitioner gets older they should lose the need and desire to perform these rituals.
Now having said that, these rituals are typically private and highly personalized. You don't just desecrate something you dislike, you desecrate something you want out of your mind. The guy in the video is highly unlikely to have such a close relationship to each of the burned texts that there would be much use in him burning them, I feel it's more for shock factor which IMO is childish.
The point of this post isn't to defend the actions of the video, but to explain that desecration can be useful in some contexts.
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
And that's certainly a valid opinion. What I was presenting, however, was not so much an opinion, as an alternative perspective on such situations. I'm not so much outright excusing such behaviors, as trying to make people aware that a black and white refusal to attempt to understand other perspectives often leads to the type of mindset which, ironically, can cause people to mindlessly burn books.
Just food for thought. Not trying to convince anyone to accept anything.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
You're right but it doesn't help when your youtube name is "angryatheistable".....
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
I read that as "Angry At This Table" then "Angry At The Ist Able" then Angry At Theist Able." Now I almost see "Angry at The Stable"
Fail.
no-body
Well-Known Member
should is the operative word though. If I own a book I can do whatever I want with it.
Jeremiah
Well-Known Member
Didn't brother reading the thread btw.
"What do you atheists think about this?"
That such a trivial event is not worth thinking about much. In fact I think I have already put way too much effort into this.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
LOL....!!!! You're right.
WOW.....I really didn't look at any other way. That's funny right there...then again I only see one ("t")....
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I've read (or at least started) some pretty bad books in my day, but I never thought about burning them. I just donate them to the salvation army or Goodwill or amvets so someone else can read them. Anything that religious books say can be ignored, not read, etc. so burning them seems ridiculous and it won't stop others from reading a different copy of it.
And burning books reminds of Hitler and the Nazis- I just think it appalling and disgusting.
And burning books reminds of Hitler and the Nazis- I just think it appalling and disgusting.
jasonwill2
Well-Known Member
No, but subconsciously the fear was still there because I was a Christian for 7 of my 20 years. It was to get rid of the irrational fear, because it was IRRATIONAL (Hell doesn't exist). Didn't you read my post? It said that it was to get rid of irrational fears by telling the emotional parts of my mind it doesn't matter anymore. I did it because on my emotional level it hadn't caught up to my intellectual level.
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Gaura Priya
IRL
I think its pretty stupid to burn books...
Especially when one can get apps for the Bible, Qur'an, Book of Mormon, Tanakh, Dhammapada, Bhagavad Gita, etc. Online versions and pdf's also exist these days.
Instead of burning books, I feel that all books should be preserved and perused. How else can one criticise said religion or irreligion without the original source?
I am planning to buy my brothers personalised New Revised Standard Versions (NRSV), Catholic edition of the Bible; so that they can peruse, skim, and even criticise.
Especially when one can get apps for the Bible, Qur'an, Book of Mormon, Tanakh, Dhammapada, Bhagavad Gita, etc. Online versions and pdf's also exist these days.
Instead of burning books, I feel that all books should be preserved and perused. How else can one criticise said religion or irreligion without the original source?
I am planning to buy my brothers personalised New Revised Standard Versions (NRSV), Catholic edition of the Bible; so that they can peruse, skim, and even criticise.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Gaura Priya
IRL
Maybe they should burn their kindle.
They may be idiots, but they're not mentally bastardised... XD
St Giordano Bruno
Well-Known Member
If I needed something to prevent me from freezing to death in a blizzard and the only fuel available was a pile of Bibles, Korans, Torahs and Origin of a Species etc I would not hesitate to burn them, after all no book is sacred enough to freeze to death over; but as for burning them to demonstrate a point I see no point in that. In fact that would be extremely counterproductive.
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
You don't care if people burn books? Apathy is bad. Today it may be something by a small group. Tomarrow by a large group.