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"Born of water" - meaning what exactly?

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David Young Born of Water is being Immersed into the Holy Body of Jesus! Commonly called Baptism!

John the Baptist was NOT re-Born of water John died before Pentecost! John died before the Bride could Baptize him!
Matthew 11:11
Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Being IMMERSED into the Body of the King allows entry into his Kingdom! John died he was beheaded before Pentecost!
Born of water is not being immersed in the body of Jesus. Water baptism connects one to the Father not the Son. God forgives sin and it is God the Father we are taught by Jesus to pray to for forgiveness in Baptism. GOD sent John to the world. Jesus did not select John, God did. God had already accepted John before birth in the spirit of baptism, forgiveness. John had no need to be baptized because he is the spirit of baptism accepted by God. John remained faithful all his life in service to God. But because John had free will he could have rejected his faith up to his death. Those already in the kingdom of God are no longer in trial so are greater than all that have not proven their worth yet. At death the trial is over. John is saved because he is faithful to the mission given him by God.
Jesus denied he was a king in a court of law and Jesus never lies.
People called him a king but he did not accept that title. Jesus did not want the government on his shoulders. The role of Jesus is teacher of the words of God so people can learn to be righteous governing themselves. Jesus taught against any man sitting on a throne of rule and said he that is least is the greatest. Kings refuse to be considered the least in their kingdom of status and power. Jesus taught against bloodline royalty and said the Christ is not a son of Abraham/David so there is no covenant. The mission of Jesus is to lead people to worship the correct God and to separate religion from secular government.
 
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2ndpillar

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So is anyone on earth currently 'born again' NO. You cannot be born again until you are given the 'new birth' as a spirit and this can only happen after you die. Being 'born of water' is simply a step in the process of approval as to whether you will be reborn as a spirit and enter the heavens after your death.

Patently false. When one is anointed, such as the little children of 1 John 2:27, they are born of God, and cannot sin (1 John 3:9). On the other hand, those who sin (transgress the law) are sons of the devil (1 John 3:8). Those who sin, and are separated from God, are simply the walking dead. To enter into life, and possess the power and the spirit, one must first "keep the commandments" (Matthew 19:17).
 

2ndpillar

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Born of water is not being immersed in the body of Jesus. Water baptism connects one to the Father not the Son. God forgives sin and it is God the Father we are taught by Jesus to pray to for forgiveness in Baptism. GOD sent John to the world. Jesus did not select John, God did. God had already accepted John before birth in the spirit of baptism,

And who baptized John in water? The water baptism taught by John, represented repentance. The baptism of Yeshua was by way of the Spirit. (Matthew 3) Yeshua taught his disciples how to pray, and baptism had no part in his instructions The only part it has is that God does not listen to sinners, and you have to repent, turn away from sin, to be heard by God. (Proverbs 15:8 & 29)
 

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What can I say, Yeshua never called "Abraham the father of the lie", saying that would in fact be a lie. Abraham, which means "father of the nations/peoples", was not the first Jew, and was not even a Jew at all. The separation of Israel into Judah and Ephraim/Israel, did not happen until after the reign of king David, long after the death of Abraham. You seem to make up many things up as you go along. As for the Law that Yeshua specifically supported was the Commandments, which came from the children of Abraham, and Yeshua said you must keep the Commandments in order to enter into life. (Matthew 19:16). As for keeping the laws of Moses, Yeshua said you had to surpass those laws (Matthew 5:20) to enter into heaven.
Abraham is a proven liar. He was a married man and told people he was not married. That is a lie denying his vow to God. He trespassed on another kings land when he should have sent a messenger to announce his desire to visit the king. He was welcomed with kindness into the home of Abimelech. Abimelech treated Abrahams wife with respect not touching her. But Abraham had the plan all along to rob Abimelech so lied again acting like Abimelech took Sarah to bed which is adultery a punishable by death sin according to the Hebrews. Abraham then had a cause ( based on lies and deceit because no adultery happened) to have his army attack Abimelech to kill him.
Abimelech was innocent and never was a threat to Abraham, treating him with kindness. Abraham was like a criminal thug in his house threatening to kill him unless paid wealth.
So to prevent a war his people would die in and the possibility of being killed himself, Abimelech gave Abraham, the liar, war monger and thief, his people as slaves with wealth.
Abraham is in no way a righteous man, but he had his scribes write that he is. His wife Sarah is his half sister and blood in their children is blood of incest. Even animals naturally try to avoid incest if possible because it causes birth defects. Blood of incest is never a "chosen" by God preferred blood for children.
 

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And who baptized John in water? The water baptism taught by John, represented repentance. The baptism of Yeshua was by way of the Spirit. (Matthew 3) Yeshua taught his disciples how to pray, and baptism had no part in his instructions The only part it has is that God does not listen to sinners, and you have to repent, turn away from sin, to be heard by God. (Proverbs 15:8 & 29)
GOD selected John to remove sins so removed John's sin before he started his water baptism mission so he would be pure from the start. There was no need for John to be baptized because remission of sin had already been granted John by God. Jesus was born of a woman yet respected John as greater than he was because Jesus was required to be water baptized but John was not. John offers sin removal by laying on of hands, Jesus commands people to believe it removes sins. God determines if the person is repentant and decides if the sins are to be removed. A person can not just go through the actions of baptism yet not be sincere about repentance and still expect to be forgiven.
Remember Jesus taught water baptism is a requirement for salvation (except for John).

Mark "16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
A person must learn that Jesus desires mercy and not sacrifice and believe water baptism removes sin not blood sacrifice of an innocent life.
 
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Bree

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The "kingdom of heaven is at hand" (Matthew 10:7), and can be verified when the disciples healed the sick, raised the dead, and cleansed the lepers. (Matthew 10:8). The "kingdom of heaven" is the power and spirit of God on earth. The "kingdom of God", is when Judah and Ephraim are combined on the land given to Jacob, under the rule of King David (Ezekiel 37:22-28), and will be fulfilled at the end of the age, after 2 days/two thousand years (Hosea 5:14-6:5).

does this mean you believe the kingdom of heaven to be an earthly with a location in jerusalem?
 

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does this mean you believe the kingdom of heaven to be an earthly with a location in jerusalem?
does this mean you believe the kingdom of heaven to be an earthly with a location in jerusalem?

Adults need to stop believing in Santa at some point and see the reality explained in the Bible.
Just like Satan, Devil and Lucifer all mean 3 different things so does the kingdom of Heaven, the kingdom of God and Paradise.
Paradise is the grave where pain on Earth is no longer felt. When Jesus and the thief died, they no longer felt the agony of being on a cross. When pain stops that is Paradise. Jesus did not go to the kingdom of God that day and neither did the thief.
Heaven as told to us in Genesis 1 is the air where birds fly. Without air, heaven, we would die. When Jesus ascended he had to go through our heaven on the journey to the kingdom of God that is not on Earth. His disciples could not follow him because they lacked the technology to build the required aircraft. Jesus left Earth in a physical body and he will return to Earth in a physical body.

Paintings of angels with feathers and Jesus floating up in the air by himself are very wrong images. Jesus was TAKEN up in an aircraft, he did not float away by himself. The angels of God do not live on this planet but they do live on a planet that has it's own heaven, air to breathe. That is why the Bible speaks of heavens, plural because there is more than one planet that can sustain biological life with air to breathe. Jesus is on one of those planets right now preparing it for his disciples.

The kingdom of heaven is the air above nations that each nation declares they own. Other nations are not allowed into that airspace without permission or they
will be perceived as a threat to national security. That is where war in heaven will happen near the End of Days explained in Revelation when fighter jets, attack helicopters and missiles are in our heaven.

When Jesus said this,
Matthew 11:12
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force "
The Jews started killing water baptized Christians for their rejection of the Temples blood sacrifice for sin removal laws. The air, heaven, those people breathe to stay alive was taken by force when they died by the hand of the Jews.

The House of God is the entire universe. In it are many mansions= livable planets with heavens, air to breathe. The kingdom of God is the planet where Jesus lives.
There is peace there so that heaven is never taken by force.
The right hand is the military, sword hand. Jesus obeys the Commandment of God to not kill so Jesus is in the hand of God where no war is ever fought. Peace is attained by being Peaceful.
 
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2ndpillar

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does this mean you believe the kingdom of heaven to be an earthly with a location in jerusalem?

The kingdom of heaven is a spiritual heaven on earth, whereas it is of power and Spirit, manifested in the healing of the sick, the rising of the dead, and the tossing out of demons (Matthew 10:7-8). The "Christian" church is without such power or spirit. The pope tried to cast out a demon and failed, and he certainly fits the category of the "fat shepherds" who scatter the flock and do not feed nor heal the flock (Ezekiel 34), and who will be replaced by "My servant" David. (Ezekiel 34). Of course the "fat shepherds" will be "destroyed" (Ezekiel 34:16), "in that day", when the heir of Peter, the pope, will "fall", and those hanging on to him will be "cut off" (Isaiah 22:15-25). The "King" will rule over the survivors of the nations from Jerusalem per Zechariah 14:16. As for the kingdom of God, when David will be king, Judah and Ephraim will be reunited on the land given to Jacob, and "keep My statutes" (Ezekiel 37:22-28). The Christians follow the false prophet Paul, whose message of the "enemy"/"devil" (Matthew 13:37-42), will bring them down the wide path to "destruction" (Matthew 7:13-15), and thrown into the "furnace of fire" (great tribulation). .
 

2ndpillar

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GOD selected John to remove sins so removed John's sin before he started his water baptism mission so he would be pure from the start. There was no need for John to be baptized because remission of sin had already been granted John by God. Jesus was born of a woman yet respected John as greater than he was because Jesus was required to be water baptized but John was not. John offers sin removal by laying on of hands, Jesus commands people to believe it removes sins. God determines if the person is repentant and decides if the sins are to be removed. A person can not just go through the actions of baptism yet not be sincere about repentance and still expect to be forgiven.
Remember Jesus taught water baptism is a requirement for salvation (except for John).

Mark "16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
A person must learn that Jesus desires mercy and not sacrifice and believe water baptism removes sin not blood sacrifice of an innocent life.

Matthew 3 describes 3 types of baptism. Baptism by water, which represents repentance, which also requires confession and good fruit, or else one is thrown into the furnace of fire (Matthew 13:39-42), referred to as the "wrath to come" (Matthew 3:7), or "thrown into the fire" (Matthew 3:10). The baptism of the "Holy Spirit and fire" executed by "My beloved son" (Matthew 3:12-17). John preached the "kingdom of heaven is at hand". As for John the Baptist, there were no recording healings by John. The healings were done by Yeshua. I am not sure where you get your information, but it is false, and Yeshua never called Abraham "the father of the lie".
 

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Matthew 3 describes 3 types of baptism. Baptism by water, which represents repentance, which also requires confession and good fruit, or else one is thrown into the furnace of fire (Matthew 13:39-42), referred to as the "wrath to come" (Matthew 3:7), or "thrown into the fire" (Matthew 3:10). The baptism of the "Holy Spirit and fire" executed by "My beloved son" (Matthew 3:12-17). John preached the "kingdom of heaven is at hand". As for John the Baptist, there were no recording healings by John. The healings were done by Yeshua. I am not sure where you get your information, but it is false, and Yeshua never called Abraham "the father of the lie".
The furnace of fire, wrath to come, is man's wrath in man made Thermonuclear WW3 that fills the heaven= sky=air we breathe (where fowl/birds fly explained in Genesis 1), to stay alive with smoke and radiation that kills people. The radiation will be in the air = heaven.
People are spoken of as a unit when the word kingdom is used not individuals so it is their influence on future generations of their bloodlines that will continue to believe in the same principles as their fathers believed. Our forefathers are the seed of the condition of strife in the world today especially in conflict of religious beliefs based on belief in the liar Abraham; Jews, Pauline Christians and Muslims.
The baptism of the Holy Spirit is Love, Jesus said God is Love, understanding to have peace one must be peaceful even toward people perceived as an enemy.
To be one with Jesus and God is to Love one another as Jesus loves us.
This is symbolically called a "baptism of fire" (Jesus wants no one to burn alive!) because Truth destroys lies completely and Love destroys hate so it ceases to exist just as Peace destroys war. Love cleanses the Spirit making it Holy, acceptable to God. People must believe what Jesus said when he said love everyone as beloved family during the time they are water baptized having their sins removed. It is often difficult to love people that are aggressively hateful. One must love the person wishing them no harm but stand firm against the hate in that person agreeing to not be hateful to them in return. It is good to remain calm in the face of adversity but often very difficult to do.
HAND is the key word to "the kingdom of heaven is at hand". It is the hand of man that kills people so they can not breathe. The God given right at birth to air= heaven, the right to life, can be taken by force when a person is killed.
Just sin removal is not enough for salvation, and yes John never physically healed people as Jesus did. But John leads people to follow Jesus that leads people with his parables and prophecy to the path to the kingdom of God. Those that are baptized and believe what Jesus taught, the Words of God, are saved.
The first thing people need to learn for salvation is to reject belief in blood sacrifice for sin removal.
1 Peter 2:10
Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy."
The Hebrews that believed in blood sacrifice for sin removal claimed they were the people of God, but were not and they had no mercy on the people they killed for not paying them money for sin removal.
Matthew 5:7
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy."
Jesus was innocent, teaching the truth and commanding people to forsake belief in blood sacrifice by accepting merciful water baptism for sin removal.
The Temple priests refused water baptism because blood sacrifice made them rich with power over the people by death threats if they didn't pay money for sins (laws they made up out of man's imagination defined as sin to not obey the law, like women were sinful for having a baby and had to pay money to the rich temple priests to have that sin removed! That is not a law of God, that is a vile man-made law that especially punished the poor that had no money to pay.) They had no mercy for Jesus that taught against their man-laws claimed to be from God but were not and Jews demanded Jesus die for not agreeing with them.
Have no mercy on Jesus , receive none from God His Father.
Matthew 9:13
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."
The water baptized disciples of Jesus were cleansed of sin, thus righteous. The sinners were the people that believed in killing an innocent life to remove sin because sin cannot be transposed from the guilty making the innocent be punished for it. That is inequity, unjust and impossible. God rejects it. Loving God with water baptism is more than all the blood sacrifices the pagan Hebrews that died in their sins ever did.
 
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Bree

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Adults need to stop believing in Santa at some point and see the reality explained in the Bible.
Just like Satan, Devil and Lucifer all mean 3 different things so does the kingdom of Heaven, the kingdom of God and Paradise.
Paradise is the grave where pain on Earth is no longer felt. When Jesus and the thief died, they no longer felt the agony of being on a cross. When pain stops that is Paradise. Jesus did not go to the kingdom of God that day and neither did the thief.
Heaven as told to us in Genesis 1 is the air where birds fly. Without air, heaven, we would die. When Jesus ascended he had to go through our heaven on the journey to the kingdom of God that is not on Earth. His disciples could not follow him because they lacked the technology to build the required aircraft. Jesus left Earth in a physical body and he will return to Earth in a physical body.

Paintings of angels with feathers and Jesus floating up in the air by himself are very wrong images. Jesus was TAKEN up in an aircraft, he did not float away by himself. The angels of God do not live on this planet but they do live on a planet that has it's own heaven, air to breathe. That is why the Bible speaks of heavens, plural because there is more than one planet that can sustain biological life with air to breathe. Jesus is on one of those planets right now preparing it for his disciples.

The kingdom of heaven is the air above nations that each nation declares they own. Other nations are not allowed into that airspace without permission or they
will be perceived as a threat to national security. That is where war in heaven will happen near the End of Days explained in Revelation when fighter jets, attack helicopters and missiles are in our heaven.

When Jesus said this,
Matthew 11:12
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force "
The Jews started killing water baptized Christians for their rejection of the Temples blood sacrifice for sin removal laws. The air, heaven, those people breathe to stay alive was taken by force when they died by the hand of the Jews.

The House of God is the entire universe. In it are many mansions= livable planets with heavens, air to breathe. The kingdom of God is the planet where Jesus lives.
There is peace there so that heaven is never taken by force.
The right hand is the military, sword hand. Jesus obeys the Commandment of God to not kill so Jesus is in the hand of God where no war is ever fought. Peace is attained by being Peaceful.


Jesus being taken up in an aircraft does not sound like reality to me.
 

Bree

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The kingdom of heaven is a spiritual heaven on earth, whereas it is of power and Spirit, manifested in the healing of the sick, the rising of the dead, and the tossing out of demons (Matthew 10:7-8). The "Christian" church is without such power or spirit. The pope tried to cast out a demon and failed, and he certainly fits the category of the "fat shepherds" who scatter the flock and do not feed nor heal the flock (Ezekiel 34), and who will be replaced by "My servant" David. (Ezekiel 34).
Of course the "fat shepherds" will be "destroyed" (Ezekiel 34:16), "in that day", when the heir of Peter, the pope, will "fall", and those hanging on to him will be "cut off" (Isaiah 22:15-25). The "King" will rule over the survivors of the nations from Jerusalem per Zechariah 14:16. As for the kingdom of God, when David will be king, Judah and Ephraim will be reunited on the land given to Jacob, and "keep My statutes" (Ezekiel 37:22-28). The Christians follow the false prophet Paul, whose message of the "enemy"/"devil" (Matthew 13:37-42), will bring them down the wide path to "destruction" (Matthew 7:13-15), and thrown into the "furnace of fire" (great tribulation). .


The christian scriptures tell us that Jesus will be the King. Hebrew prophecy's after the life of King David say that no one will sit on the throne of Gods Kingdom until the Messiah comes and only he will be given the kingship. King David was not the Messiah.

“This Jesus God resurrected . . . he was exalted to the right hand of God . . . Actually David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says, ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’” (Acts 2:32-35) From this it became evident that Jesus was to receive something greatly superior to an earthly throne such as David had had. His kingdom was to be heavenly and include rulership over all the earth.

David foretold Psalm110 Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand+ Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.

David calls the Messiah 'my Lord' so it is not reasonable to think that David will again one day be King.
 

2ndpillar

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The christian scriptures tell us that Jesus will be the King. Hebrew prophecy's after the life of King David say that no one will sit on the throne of Gods Kingdom until the Messiah comes and only he will be given the kingship. King David was not the Messiah.

“This Jesus God resurrected . . . he was exalted to the right hand of God . . . Actually David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says, ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’” (Acts 2:32-35) From this it became evident that Jesus was to receive something greatly superior to an earthly throne such as David had had. His kingdom was to be heavenly and include rulership over all the earth.

David foretold Psalm110 Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand+ Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.

David calls the Messiah 'my Lord' so it is not reasonable to think that David will again one day be King.

"Christian" "scripture" would be classified by Yeshua, as the mix of the tare seed, the message of the "enemy"/"devil", with the message of the "son of man" (Matthew 13). Yeshua was the "prophet to come" that Moses told Israel they were to listen too. As for the term "messiah", meaning the anointed, all prophets, kings, judges, and high priest of Israel were considered "anointed". As for Yeshua being the king, ruling from Jerusalem (Zechariah 14) at this time, that is nullified by your quote from Psalms whereas YWHY "said to my Lord: sit at my right hand, until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet." This has not happened. The "enemies" still are the rulers of the world by way of 8th head of the beast (Revelation 17) which still presides over the world, along the daughters of Babylon, who still reside on the "scarlet beast" (Revelation 17). "My servant David" will be made head shepherd after the Lord God judges the sheep, starting with destroying the "fat" sheep who do not feed or heal the flock (Ezekiel 34:16-23), and "My servant David will be prince among them; I, the LORD have spoken". At that time, "they will no longer be a prey to the nations, and the beasts of the earth will not devour them; but they will live securely, and no one will make them afraid". As for Yeshua, as a son of David, as with the tribe of Judah, Judah, the Jews are considered Judah, and Yeshua can be tied to David, but he is sitting at the right hand of God in heaven and not ruling the earth from Jerusalem.
 

2ndpillar

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The furnace of fire, wrath to come, is man's wrath in man made Thermonuclear WW3 that fills the heaven= sky=air we breathe (where fowl/birds fly explained in Genesis 1), to stay alive with smoke and radiation that kills people. The radiation will be in the air = heaven.

The "furnace of fire", in which the "tares", those who "commit lawlessness" (Matthew 13:39-42) are thrown into, is on par with those who get baptized and do not produce "good fruit", and yet are cut down and thrown "into the fire" (Matthew 3:10). The "wrath to come" or drinking from the cup of God's anger, seems to be reserved for those with the "mark of the beast" (Revelation 14:10), which is the mark placed upon the followers of the beast with two horns like a lamb, Constantine, who established the dogma of the Roman church and her daughters, in 325 A.D., . The image the beast promoted was the image of the cross stemming from his military victory in 312 A.D.. His attempting to change the law and the times (Daniel 7:25) is with respect to changing the day of the Sabbath being the 7th day, to keeping the day of his sun god, Sol Invictus, who image presided over his 312 A.D. military victory, which is the day of the sun (Sunday). By the way, the birthdate of Sol Invictus is 25 December.
 

stanberger

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"Christian" "scripture" would be classified by Yeshua, as the mix of the tare seed, the message of the "enemy"/"devil", with the message of the "son of man" (Matthew 13). Yeshua was the "prophet to come" that Moses told Israel they were to listen too. As for the term "messiah", meaning the anointed, all prophets, kings, judges, and high priest of Israel were considered "anointed". As for Yeshua being the king, ruling from Jerusalem (Zechariah 14) at this time, that is nullified by your quote from Psalms whereas YWHY "said to my Lord: sit at my right hand, until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet." This has not happened. The "enemies" still are the rulers of the world by way of 8th head of the beast (Revelation 17) which still presides over the world, along the daughters of Babylon, who still reside on the "scarlet beast" (Revelation 17). "My servant David" will be made head shepherd after the Lord God judges the sheep, starting with destroying the "fat" sheep who do not feed or heal the flock (Ezekiel 34:16-23), and "My servant David will be prince among them; I, the LORD have spoken". At that time, "they will no longer be a prey to the nations, and the beasts of the earth will not devour them; but they will live securely, and no one will make them afraid". As for Yeshua, as a son of David, as with the tribe of Judah, Judah, the Jews are considered Judah, and Yeshua can be tied to David, but he is sitting at the right hand of God in heaven and not ruling the earth from Jerusalem.
 

Dogknox20

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Born of water is not being immersed in the body of Jesus. Water baptism connects one to the Father not the Son. God forgives sin and it is God the Father we are taught by Jesus to pray to for forgiveness in Baptism. GOD sent John to the world. Jesus did not select John, God did. God had already accepted John before birth in the spirit of baptism, forgiveness. John had no need to be baptized because he is the spirit of baptism accepted by God. John remained faithful all his life in service to God. But because John had free will he could have rejected his faith up to his death. Those already in the kingdom of God are no longer in trial so are greater than all that have not proven their worth yet. At death the trial is over. John is saved because he is faithful to the mission given him by God.
Jesus denied he was a king in a court of law and Jesus never lies.
People called him a king but he did not accept that title. Jesus did not want the government on his shoulders. The role of Jesus is teacher of the words of God so people can learn to be righteous governing themselves. Jesus taught against any man sitting on a throne of rule and said he that is least is the greatest. Kings refuse to be considered the least in their kingdom of status and power. Jesus taught against bloodline royalty and said the Christ is not a son of Abraham/David so there is no covenant. The mission of Jesus is to lead people to worship the correct God and to separate religion from secular government.

Triumph 3000 people were ADDED to the Body of Jesus the first day of Pentecost... Clearly you are WRONG... Baptism does Connect us to Jesus!
Acts 2:40
With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day......
 
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