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Breaking: Trump Tax Records Reveal He Could Have Avoided Paying Taxes for Nearly Two Decades

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
As a nonparent I don't much either. And it's parents who are mostly causing the problems. If they don't care, why should I?

Frankly, I think WWIII is the greater threat. And we continue to create technology that can make that war ever more horrible.
Tom
I believe I agree with you here.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Within 100 years, more than 7 billion people on this planet will die. I don't see what difference a few years makes in the grand scheme of things.
Something I struggle with, ethically, is that the same argument is even more appropriate to the abortion discussion.
Wouldn't it be better to off people before they're born than after?
Tom
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
Something I struggle with, ethically, is that the same argument is even more appropriate to the abortion discussion.
Wouldn't it be better to off people before they're born than after?
Tom

No!
First of all, how many people are you offing every day with your CO2 emissions? I know...you don't know. But from what you are implying about CO2 emissions, you are indeed slowly killing us all. Are you killing us purposefully and with intent? I don't think so. I mean you know very well that all pollutants are harmful to people and other living beings, yet you willingly continue to leave behind your Carbon footprint and a wake of other pollutants that is slowly killing us all each and every day. Is it your intention to kill us?

No. A mother who kills her own child is a cold blooded killer. Her entire intent is to kill the child she doesn't want because its too inconvenient for her to take responsibility for the life she created. As if wanting to get laid could ever be considered a good reason for killing an innocent and helpless child. I understand that it is pretty selfish to not try to reduce and limit the amount of pollution that one puts off into the environment, but no one who does this is intent on killing anyone. Aside from self defense, to intentionally kill another human being for selfish reasons is abhorrent. Those who do such things are not worthy of the breaths they take.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The earth has pretty much exceeded its carrying capacity for human beings. It would not be a terrible thing if 1 or 2 billion of us died.
And you think Jesus would approve of doing nothing to prevent billions from dying since I see "Following Christ" at the end of your posts? There are other ways of dealing with this.
 

Lighthouse

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Sonofason

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Trump tried to compare to himself to others naming Buffet in the second presidential debate saying Warren Buffet used the tax loss carry-forward but this was debunked pretty immediately yet Trump still will not release his returns. Buffet has apparently paid taxes every year since 1944.
Buffet calls Trumps bluff from second debate and releases his income taxes!
I guess Buffet is not undergoing a tax audit.

Edit: Let me continue.

Who is it that is responsible for tax audits? The Federal Government.
Who is in charge of the Federal Government right now? O'bamma
Does the current administration want to make things easy for Trump? Of course not.

Why wouldn't O'bamma order Donald Trump to be audited and then let Hillary Clinton, (the sex offender supporter) and the fanatically liberal and biased media demand that he release his tax returns just to make him look like he's trying to avoid revealing his tax statements.

Democrats are the most dirty fighters. And the sheeple that belong to that party don't even see it. Or if they do see it, they allow it because a democratic government will continue to allow them to kill innocent children, commit sodomy with same sex partners, and will continue to make them promises of free stuff without them having to work for it.
 
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Sonofason

Well-Known Member
The audit has nothing to do with it.
Trump has been free to release the records any time he wants to. That is straight from the lawyers and the IRS.
Trump is hiding behind a lie.
Tom
Proof that your statement is true would be nice. And who does the IRS work for?
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
The audit has nothing to do with it.
Trump has been free to release the records any time he wants to. That is straight from the lawyers and the IRS.
Trump is hiding behind a lie.
Tom

It's not going to end well for Trump in either direction. Either;

  1. He really is a terrible businessman who has bankrupted multiple times and can't turn a profit to save himself - in which case do Americans want a guy like this handling their economy and subsequently affecting the world's? or;
  2. He actually isn't terrible at business and is hiding millions, if not billions, in off-shore accounts because "he's smart" by avoiding taxes - in which case he doesn't give two f**ks about the country he grew up in, whose resources he spent making his millions but hasn't paid for, so how can he be trusted to govern in America's interest when he clearly doesn't care about it enough to pay taxes and contribute to society?
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
It's not going to end well for Trump in either direction. Either;

  1. He really is a terrible businessman who has bankrupted multiple times and can't turn a profit to save himself - in which case do Americans want a guy like this handling their economy and subsequently affecting the world's? or;
  2. He actually isn't terrible at business and is hiding millions, if not billions, in off-shore accounts because "he's smart" by avoiding taxes - in which case he doesn't give two f**ks about the country he grew up in, whose resources he spent making his millions but hasn't paid for, so how can he be trusted to govern in America's interest when he clearly doesn't care about it enough to pay taxes and contribute to society?
This is completely ridiculous.

If our government said to the people, all the people, "if you feel you really need 1 million dollars, just ask us, and we'll give it to you." I bet you every single person in the nation would take them up on it. That doesn't make them people that do not care about their country, it means that every single person on the planet is a selfish B******. It means he's smart.

Don't let our business owners move money overseas, and they won't move it overseas. If you catch them doing it...lock them up...forever...all of them.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Proof that your statement is true would be nice. And who does the IRS work for?
IRS statements on the subject are easy to find.
The claim that Trump can't release personal information, here in the USA, is the claim Trump is making.
It doesn't matter who the IRS is "working for". They can't stop Trump from telling the truth to the voters.
He just doesn't want to do that. He has something more important to hide than coming clean to the electorate. As a private citizen, that is his right. It is even his perogative to lie about it.
I don't want a president who exercises that kind of right and perogative.
Tom
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
IRS statements on the subject are easy to find.
The claim that Trump can't release personal information, here in the USA, is the claim Trump is making.
It doesn't matter who the IRS is "working for". They can't stop Trump from telling the truth to the voters.
He just doesn't want to do that. He has something more important to hide than coming clean to the electorate. As a private citizen, that is his right. It is even his perogative to lie about it.
I don't want a president who exercises that kind of right and perogative.
Tom
You say he has something to hide, but you cannot prove the statement you are making. Thus, I choose not to believe you, because to me, you are not a reliable source. When you have proof, I'd be more than happy to listen. But conjecture is a waste of everyone's time.

Furthermore, I do not believe any person actually has a right to see any one else's tax returns. If the IRS feels you are doing something illegal, and you are convicted of a crime, then that perhaps ought to be public information.
 
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