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Breaking: Trump Tax Records Reveal He Could Have Avoided Paying Taxes for Nearly Two Decades

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No!
First of all, how many people are you offing every day with your CO2 emissions? I know...you don't know. But from what you are implying about CO2 emissions, you are indeed slowly killing us all. Are you killing us purposefully and with intent? I don't think so. I mean you know very well that all pollutants are harmful to people and other living beings, yet you willingly continue to leave behind your Carbon footprint and a wake of other pollutants that is slowly killing us all each and every day. Is it your intention to kill us?

No. A mother who kills her own child is a cold blooded killer. Her entire intent is to kill the child she doesn't want because its too inconvenient for her to take responsibility for the life she created. As if wanting to get laid could ever be considered a good reason for killing an innocent and helpless child. I understand that it is pretty selfish to not try to reduce and limit the amount of pollution that one puts off into the environment, but no one who does this is intent on killing anyone. Aside from self defense, to intentionally kill another human being for selfish reasons is abhorrent. Those who do such things are not worthy of the breaths they take.
If we didn't have abortion, we wouldn't need 1 or 2 billion of us to die off, we'd need closer to 21 or 22 billion of us to die off.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
If we didn't have abortion, we wouldn't need 1 or 2 billion of us to die off, we'd need closer to 21 or 22 billion of us to die off.
So you believe it is good to kill innocent unborn human beings in order to save yourself from overpopulation? Why not try abstinence if you don't want children?
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
She is a liar and you are defending her, and I believe that is pathetic.
And I can't wait until I see her in jail.
No need to get upset about it. You wanna get your bash Democrats and Hillary session in apparently, but nobody don't dare say anything about Trump. Warren Buffet showed Trump to be liar with his false accusations claiming, "other rich people do what I did" and said things about Buffet that he apparently didn't appreciate. If it doesn't matter like you said then I don't see the big deal.
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
No need to get upset about it. You wanna get your bash Democrats and Hillary session in apparently, but nobody don't dare say anything about Trump. Warren Buffet showed Trump to be liar with his false accusations claiming, "other rich people do what I did" and said things about Buffet that he apparently didn't appreciate. If it doesn't matter like you said then I don't see the big deal.

That's just it though, it's not a lie to say other rich people do it just because Buffet doesn't.

Whether Warren Buffet does release taxes or not, other rich people do do what Trump did.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
This is completely ridiculous.

If our government said to the people, all the people, "if you feel you really need 1 million dollars, just ask us, and we'll give it to you." I bet you every single person in the nation would take them up on it. That doesn't make them people that do not care about their country, it means that every single person on the planet is a selfish B******. It means he's smart.

In what way is what I said ridiculous?

The difference is most of those people will have actually paid taxes at some point - probably more taxes than Trump - and will have actually worked a day in their lives. Unlike Trump, these people more than likely won't have been able to take advantage of tax loopholes, grants and creative accounting available to business owners and the affluent which reduces their tax burden. And of course people would take them up on it - money is a constant worry for a lot of folk. The difference is a lot of people would need that million for more than a few things. Wanting to fulfil your needs is hardly selfish - especially when you've already paid into the system. Trump isn't being smart here - he should have known that if he wanted to be President, to show that he'll put the welfare of America over his own selfish desires, that he'd be pressured to release his tax returns like every other Presidential candidate. If he had a modicum of foresight he should have known that this, coupled with his infamously selfish attitude, would come back to bite him.

Why should Americans trust a man to put their country first as President when he didn't in all the years before now as a businessman?

I'll be the first to admit the above is based on the assumption that Trump can actually turn a taxable profit and just moves it offshore. Of course, he may suck complete balls at business and his losses are 100% genuine - no fiddling involved.


Don't let our business owners move money overseas, and they won't move it overseas. If you catch them doing it...lock them up...forever...all of them.

So you admit there's something wrong here after all and that something should be done about it. Unfortunately there's a clause in the U.S. Constitution that prevents the Government from just taking peoples' property for 'no good reason' which I think would be used in the event the Feds tried something.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
That's just it though, it's not a lie to say other rich people do it just because Buffet doesn't.

Whether Warren Buffet does release taxes or not, other rich people do do what Trump did.
You miss the point. Yes I'm sure rich people do it but when trump called out someone specifically likening him to trump, the celebrity released their taxes the very next day to prove him wrong. Therefore Trump got caught in a lie mixed with half truths.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
No need to get upset about it. You wanna get your bash Democrats and Hillary session in apparently, but nobody don't dare say anything about Trump. Warren Buffet showed Trump to be liar with his false accusations claiming, "other rich people do what I did" and said things about Buffet that he apparently didn't appreciate. If it doesn't matter like you said then I don't see the big deal.
I'm not upset. But I do believe that the supposed lie that you are claiming that Donald Trump made about Buffet's taxes are quite a bit different than what Hillary lied about. She said to the public that Benghazi was a demonstration gone out of control because of a video, when she knew darn well that it was a terrorist attack on the Embassy. Donald Trump in my opinion was only trying to suggest that Buffet, like himself does what ever he can do to pay less taxes. They will find what ever loop holes they can to pay less taxes. And that is what any intelligent person ought to do. I think Trump mis-spoke, or did not hear the question properly, which happens often. But Hillary will give bold faced lies, knowing very well that she is not telling the truth. She's a liar, and she always has been. I don't like liars...and never will. It is one thing to to be wrong, but it's quite another to lie intentionally. And that's what she does.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Trump Tax Records Obtained by The [New York]Times Reveal He Could Have Avoided Paying Taxes for Nearly Two Decades



The full article is quite illuminating, and is well worth the read for any open-minded person. But please don't read the full article if you're a Trump supporter: Ignorance of your candidate is the strongest reason for voting for him.

Comments?[I Don't support Trump. But what he did was within the law. Don't be angry at him for following the law. Plenty of other things to make you angry at him.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
In what way is what I said ridiculous?

The difference is most of those people will have actually paid taxes at some point - probably more taxes than Trump - and will have actually worked a day in their lives. Unlike Trump, these people more than likely won't have been able to take advantage of tax loopholes, grants and creative accounting available to business owners and the affluent which reduces their tax burden. And of course people would take them up on it - money is a constant worry for a lot of folk. The difference is a lot of people would need that million for more than a few things. Wanting to fulfil your needs is hardly selfish - especially when you've already paid into the system. Trump isn't being smart here - he should have known that if he wanted to be President, to show that he'll put the welfare of America over his own selfish desires, that he'd be pressured to release his tax returns like every other Presidential candidate. If he had a modicum of foresight he should have known that this, coupled with his infamously selfish attitude, would come back to bite him.

Why should Americans trust a man to put their country first as President when he didn't in all the years before now as a businessman?

I'll be the first to admit the above is based on the assumption that Trump can actually turn a taxable profit and just moves it offshore. Of course, he may suck complete balls at business and his losses are 100% genuine - no fiddling involved.




So you admit there's something wrong here after all and that something should be done about it. Unfortunately there's a clause in the U.S. Constitution that prevents the Government from just taking peoples' property for 'no good reason' which I think would be used in the event the Feds tried something.
You honestly believe you've paid more taxes than Trump. That's a laugh. We shall see eventually I suppose.

When did Hillary put our country first?
What has Hillary done for this country?

All I see from you so far is speculation. Come back when you know something.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
well how did the IRS miss 916 mill.. those are just things that catch your eyes.
Trump says he's been audited for 15 years and this is probably why especially considering his four bankruptcies. I'd hate to be the IRS agent trying to figure out that mess.
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
Trump says he's been audited for 15 years and this is probably why especially considering his four bankruptcies. I'd hate to be the IRS agent trying to figure out that mess.
Oh he's already started building the wall ..
He might not be made of money you know...
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
Hillary might not be about the power...
Well find out..
If I vote for an outside party they say I'm voting for the opponent or tossing it to them according to michelle, how does she know I'm not throwing it Hillary's way?
Its stuff like that suggests everyone else is already completely brainwashed, or they "have to be".
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
Aye, few are aware of the massive subsidies he gets, especially for those spendy but unnecessary little electric toys burning up the roads.
The money he gets would go much farther if it were spent on affordable efficient cars instead of rich guys' playthings.
(I'm OK with their being rich. But I don't wanna subsidize'm.)

Elon Musk's growing empire is fueled by $4.9 billion in government subsidies http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html


The only person I know with a $200+k Tesla on order, is one of my clients, who is very wealthy & has several other newer cars inc. a couple of nice SUVs for winter . Very nice guy, but I am literally trying to juggle right now, fixing my 200+k miles car to make it safe before winter, and paying enough taxes to avoid penalties next year.

The government redistributing wealth from rich to poor is questionable enough, but as often as not it is clearly the other way around, and increasingly in the name combating global warming, which the Dem ticket openly puts right up there with terrorism...
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
You honestly believe you've paid more taxes than Trump. That's a laugh. We shall see eventually I suppose.

No I don't because I'm not American. Where in my previous post did I ever reference myself as having paid more taxes than Trump?


When did Hillary put our country first?
What has Hillary done for this country?

She's served for decades in political office, which is more than can be said for Trump. She's represented America on the world stage which is more than can be said for Trump. Hilary respects checks & balances which is more than can be said for Trump.


All I see from you so far is speculation. Come back when you know something.

So opinions and speculations based on observation aren't allowed in a debate now :rolleyes:
 
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