When I'm dictator, I plan to radically overhaul the country's approach to taxation.
But until then, I'll play the current game to my advantage.
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Breaking: Trump Tax Records Reveal He Could Have Avoided Paying Taxes for Nearly Two Decades
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But until then, I'll play the current game to my advantage.
What he isn't, is not what is troublesome.
Parchment
Active Member
That is a logical approach
On rare occasions it is both reasonable and responsible to hate both. Trump is dangerous scum.
Going by the link that Sunstone posted earlier (https://thinkprogress.org/7-tweets-...-are-very-awkward-now-75b500ea4f45#.8smi3xx9g), here are a few examples of quotes from Trump's tweets that have now been exposed as either lies or hypocritical:
Was it Trump who gained the tax code, or his accountants?
Regardless of whether he has the technical knowledge of the tax code to fix it, I don't trust someone who has benefitted by tax loopholes to the tune of (as a conservative guess) tens of millions of dollars to be the one to close those loopholes. It would go against his self-interest.
In any case, he's made announcements about his tax plan, so we don't need to speculate about whether he's willing or able to fix the problems. He's said what he plans to do; does it fix them?
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Trump-vs-Clinton-Tax-Plan (tip of the hat to @idav for the link)
Exactly!
Can anyone show a substantial event where Trump chose something against his own best interests?
I cannot. Anybody who has gotten elected to high office has had to balance competing interests. Trump has never done that to the best of my knowledge. Why does anyone think he will advocate for tax policies that would negatively impact his ability to avoid paying his share?
Tom
Everyone uses tax deductions. The amount one can deduct is arbitrary. If one can, then one should.
This is just a double standard.
BTW, I vote consistently on taxes that affect the rich because I do believe that the rich should pay more. I try to fix this by legally changing the processes instead of forcing and shaming individuals for "they should do this or should do that."
How dare these lowlife scum point a finger at big business! If they are going to point fingers they should point them in the right direction. At the Mexicans.
Parchment
Active Member
Just because some people aren't in as good of a financial position as they want or could be doesn't make them lowlife scum fp, it just makes them people that haven't gotten to where they want to be yet if they are trying and not blaming others for their situation. What did Mexicans ever do to you? there are many people of Hispanic descent in the U.S. who are hardworking, productive members of society. I don't get you
GoodbyeDave
Well-Known Member
It's irony. He's poking fun at the sort of thing Trump might say in defending his tax avoidance.
Parchment
Active Member
If that was the case then why did fp quote my post?
Because it was a really good subject for industrial strength sarcasm.
Tom
I disagree.
His not being some things is very troubling......
- Politically predictable
- Civil
- Considered
- Ethical
I'm seldom accused of being logical, so you're responsible if I spill my cocoa.
I am not being serious, I thought it would be apparent that my post was dripping with irony.
The point is that Trump has based his entire campaign on pointing fingers and blaming others. Started the campaign by telling people that all their problems were caused by to nasty Mexicans.
I don't dispute his being dishonest or hypocritical at times.
I'm just addressing the tax situation.
Both.
In business, one teams up with one's accountants, lawyers & tax advisers.
We plan strategies both before (to plan ahead)& after (when things turn out differently from plans) events.
I don't trust any of them.
But Trump would have the keenest knowledge of dysfunction in the tax code.
I know that when I discuss such things with people not in business, I discover
that they've no clue how things work. Worse yet, they get their understanding
from media talking heads who also don't understand.....or even movies.
I read his tax proposals a month or so ago.
I'd prefer a different approach.
Tax avoidance is very common.
Even lefties do it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyph...soros-may-owe-billions-in-taxes/#322bc91c7428
Good for them.
Even lefties do it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyph...soros-may-owe-billions-in-taxes/#322bc91c7428
Good for them.
Do you know how lame this is?
Do you know THE NEW YORK TIMES ITSELF PAID NO TAXES IN 2014 because of such huge losses because no one wants to read their stupid newspaper anymore?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/10/02/new-york-times-paid-no-taxes-2014/
This is the same newspaper running a Hillary Clinton hit piece that "Trump" (due to business losses) "may" not have paid taxes in 1995 - they actually do not have any proof that he didn't, in 1995 due to the horrible home prices which continued to slide in many regions, and new residential construction failed to recover as expected and Atlantic City casinos were in trouble economically and Trump had some business losses that can be written off as losses and is of course legal - this isn't Trump personally, there is no evidence that Trump personally paid no taxes and of course business losses should be written off, I write off things in my taxes every year legally and to the letter of the law including my IRA contributions and I say "good job" to everyone who does as I want to give as little money to these crooks in government as possible who squander my money without any accountability at all and who are selfish corrupt crony capitalists like Jerry Brown, Democratic governor of California.
This is laughable, a comedy, such piggish hypocrits with this "might have not" b.s. from the New York Times about 1995 when these sob's paid NO TAXES THEMSELVES IN 2014 BECAUSE THEIR CIRCULATION SUCKS AND THEIR PAPER SUCKS AND BECAUSE THEY GOT TAX BONUS BECAUSE THEY ARE LOSERS AND ABOUT TO GO BANKRUPT AND FIRING EMPLOYEES and who is the tax "cheaters" here?
Do you know THE NEW YORK TIMES ITSELF PAID NO TAXES IN 2014 because of such huge losses because no one wants to read their stupid newspaper anymore?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/10/02/new-york-times-paid-no-taxes-2014/
This is the same newspaper running a Hillary Clinton hit piece that "Trump" (due to business losses) "may" not have paid taxes in 1995 - they actually do not have any proof that he didn't, in 1995 due to the horrible home prices which continued to slide in many regions, and new residential construction failed to recover as expected and Atlantic City casinos were in trouble economically and Trump had some business losses that can be written off as losses and is of course legal - this isn't Trump personally, there is no evidence that Trump personally paid no taxes and of course business losses should be written off, I write off things in my taxes every year legally and to the letter of the law including my IRA contributions and I say "good job" to everyone who does as I want to give as little money to these crooks in government as possible who squander my money without any accountability at all and who are selfish corrupt crony capitalists like Jerry Brown, Democratic governor of California.
This is laughable, a comedy, such piggish hypocrits with this "might have not" b.s. from the New York Times about 1995 when these sob's paid NO TAXES THEMSELVES IN 2014 BECAUSE THEIR CIRCULATION SUCKS AND THEIR PAPER SUCKS AND BECAUSE THEY GOT TAX BONUS BECAUSE THEY ARE LOSERS AND ABOUT TO GO BANKRUPT AND FIRING EMPLOYEES and who is the tax "cheaters" here?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Couldn't it be possible that it is a problem with both? The tax code for allowing it, and Trump for taking advantage of such a situation?
Here's why that is irrelevant to the Trump situation.
The NYT isn't claiming that their business acumen is a reason to read their paper or website.
Trump is claiming that his ability to make money is a reason (the only reason really) to vote for him to be POTUS. Now he's claiming that it is smart to lose money, because then you don't have to pay taxes.
Tom