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I'm not proud of myself for that...
Please people. This is a family forum
Don't count on "real" evidence Rev. When he posts research, he totally exaggerates what the author's findings and studies report.
I find it hard to believe that your scenario of some women humiliating others for having peaches instead
of melons actually exists outside of your imagination. You say you have research...let's see some links.
I disagree. I think you're comparing breast implants with sexual objectification of women in the same way that porn is demonized as the cause of sexual objectification. .
One can choose not to be humiliated. One can still choose to value herself and her goodies as da bomb regardless of what anybody else thinks. Please stop trying to protect the archetypal "poor defenseless weak and fragile female." We don't need it.
And besides, what if another woman wants to be assaulted by my breastesses? :rainbow1:
Your sources say otherwise and that it's weight, media, and Hollywood with whom they compare with.Perhaps I am going overboard on this website and perhaps it’s my time to move along to other posts/websites, but my point is this: (1) women are still socialized to see so much of their worth via breast size
Skewed numbers. You don't relate what those record numbers reflect. How many were reconstructive? How many were for women who already had big breasts just wanted them "lifted"? What is the comparison for those who do it for sexual objectification and those who do it to because "they feel" it will round out their personal physiques? How many were lesbians?(2) it’s the sexual objefification of women which leads them to record numbers toward breast implants. How sad, that so many women today are no different than the women of yesteryear that in many ways still have to wear corsets – but the suitors of today are plastic surgeons.
Objectification is an attitude that regards a person as a commodity or as an object for use, with insufficient regard for a person's personality or sentience.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_objectification#cite_note-Bartky-0Perhaps right at the very beginning I should have posted this link. See below. I think this Wikipedia account does a good job of explaining what I have been arguing, which connects sexual objectification with breast implants.
Sexual objectification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This website also outlines male sexual objectification (such as beefcake calendars and CFNM events) and its harm, along with the problems of pornography and sexual objectification.
Again, I do not oppose reconstructive surgery (in fact I advocate it) and have no problems with women with larger breasts. In fact, I think women with larger breasts may have a more difficult in life than women with smaller breasts because of how men treat women (e.g., being sexually objectified, women self objectifying themselves because they are larger). (And I would argue the same and perhaps it is even worse, related to men who are larger between the legs). It is the act of getting breast implants so that a woman can feel more credible and feminine that I oppose and the men and women who advocate this.
Yup. It's the outdoor look that's now all the rage among the more stylish bovines.Is that a plaid bra?
Thanks. They give me something to occupy my hands while I watch mindless TV.I love your edits.
Heh. I cannot remember the title, but there was some hoopla over a movie starring Colin Farrel that featured him in a full frontal nude scene.
Apparently, he's packin' some serious heat. Either that, or they enhanced things for the camera. Anywho, it was reported (I was not there) that several men objected to this scene. They put up such a fuss, it was said to have been cut from the movie completely.
I don't know if it was in fact cut, but I found the idea of guys being ruffled by it quite funny. Welcome to our world, boys.
I think we ladies should start a restaurant chain called "Wieners". Nah...that doesn't sound manly enough. I'd have to think about this a bit more. It would of course feature male servers who share a certain characteristic.
And hot wings.
Hah! I knew it!I know Anne was just joking in this post from long ago quoted above, but I have this emotional view that sometimes rises in me that I would like more and more men....
Sounds like NinerbuffI think the youtube clip below about the remora fish is more fitting for ninerbuff. The remora fish simply attaches to sharks, follow them everywhere they go and eat the left over fragements of what a shark attacks (and when very hungry and desperate will eat the shark’s feces).
I'm OK with men being objectified. We can take it....especially if it's done by hot women.In all serious Rev, what are your thoughts about the sexual objectification of men? Can it help men gain empathy toward the sexual objectification of women, or will it make the overall sexual objectification of people worse? Of course, I am interested in other people thoughts about this also.
Sounds like Ninerbuff
I'm OK with men being objectified. We can take it....especially if it's done by hot women.
You don't get it. Any male or female would want sexual objectification from people they are attracted to even if it's someone they don't know. It's the ones that they aren't interested in or attracted to that they don't want it from. That's why people oogle, flirt, and dress up.But Rev, do you think it can help men gain empathy toward the harm of sexual objectification or will it make sexual objectfication become even more pervasive?
I just don't see the harm that you do for the general level of objectification we have.But Rev, do you think it can help men gain empathy toward the harm of sexual objectification or will it make sexual objectfication become even more pervasive?
I just don't see the harm that you do for the general level of objectification we have.
My criteria for what constitutes objectification aren't nearly as broad as yours.That might be because we are attaching different definition. I have no problem with normative flirting and so forth. Sexual ojectification is when a person is truely rendered into an object and the person's only worth is their sexual attributes -- others see no other worth.
My criteria for what constitutes objectification aren't nearly as broad as yours.
Boob jobs don't measure up. Hmmm....somehow, that sounds wrong.