Britain out of the EU

[Ultimatum]

They will not attempt to invoke article 50
they will simple make life untenable for us, firsly by ignoring us, and secondly by deferring payments and decisions. We will no nonger be consulted on anything. Eventually they will cease all new trade and break all ties with cooperative ventures.

Citation needed?

 

[Rick O'Shez]

As you will have heard, some folks are asking if the situation might renew the idea of a united Ireland, but that would, no doubt, upset the Protestant Irish intensely. What do you think about such ideas?

I think Irish unification is inevitable eventually.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

The workers in the banking and financial world will be hit especially hard. As will farming communities, when they realise that agriculture was kept afloat by EU subsidies. Though they might not care to belive it, if farmers loose half their income, they will not be able to pay wages.

It's going to get very messy in a couple of years when the EU subsidies dry up, and people look to Westminster to make up the difference, particularly if the government is still on an austerity drive, which seems likely.

 

[oldbadger]

I think Irish unification is inevitable eventually.

...I reckon so...
Martin McGuiness was on telly earlier, and inferring that since Eire is 'in', and Northern Ireland wants to 'remain', that some attempts at unification might be considered.

 

[oldbadger]

It's going to get very messy in a couple of years when the EU subsidies dry up, and people look to Westminster to make up the difference, particularly if the government is still on an austerity drive, which seems likely.

A good perception ^^....
If anybody thought they were voting 'leave' for an easy ride then they are in for a shock.
We need a tough leader who can steer us through a tough time, and we need to be 'pushing' for the next ten years rather than 'free-wheeling'.

But I'm thinking that we did get the right vote........ we'll see...... in about ten years!

 

[oldbadger]

Citation needed?

I don't think that you will get a good source for that.......
Anybody who wants to ignore us is simply closing doors on many potentially very good deals and opportunities.
The fact that some EU leaders are stamping, shouting, challenging and threatening is clearly indicative that we did do the right thing.

We could be the first crack in the dam!

 

[Rick O'Shez]

...I reckon so...
Martin McGuiness was on telly earlier, and inferring that since Eire is 'in', and Northern Ireland wants to 'remain', that some attempts at unification might be considered.

I don't think it will be practical now, but the majority vote for "remain" in Northern Ireland feels significant, the sense of people wanting to be part of something bigger. It might be a generational thing too, younger people wanting a different future.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

A good perception ^^....
If anybody thought they were voting 'leave' for an easy ride then they are in for a shock.
We need a tough leader who can steer us through a tough time, and we need to be 'pushing' for the next ten years rather than 'free-wheeling'.
But I'm thinking that we did get the right vote........ we'll see...... in about ten years!

Things are in a complete mess at the moment, political and economic meltdown, a feeling of the country being divided. Hopefully we will avoid a serious punch-up like that business with the cavaliers and roundheads.

 

[oldbadger]

Things are in a complete mess at the moment, political and economic meltdown, a feeling of the country being divided. Hopefully we will avoid a serious punch-up like that business with the cavaliers and roundheads.

Things are in a complete mess at the moment, political and economic meltdown, a feeling of the country being divided. Hopefully we will avoid a serious punch-up like that business with the cavaliers and roundheads.

Can the leavers be the roundheads, please?

Yes, give it a generation or two and Ireland might get back together.
There is still too much strong feeling around.....

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Just heard Sturgeon on the BBC say that westminster have to have the approval of the scottish government to invoke clause 50. And that she will not do anything to harm Scottish interests.
When she was asked if this would not anger those who had voted for exit. She replied that not to do so would angerScotlands voters

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Can the leavers be the roundheads, please?

No, it would be the other way round, Boris is a toff and would be the king. Not sure who would lead the New Model Army though, Corbyn is too much of a wimp.

 

[Altfish]

Citation needed?

That's rich.

The Leave campaign has been built on lies and false promises with no reference to fact in the last 4-months. The campaigner leaders and their Murdoch press lackeys are now back peddling as fast as they can and down playing expectations.
Cameron and Osborne are basically saying, "You got us in this mess, sort it"
Johnson, Gove, Duncan-Smith, Rees-Mogg, etc. have gone to ground.
Europe has basically said, "OK get your act together UK we don't give a damn"

All of this was totally predictable - but it was the Remain camp that was 'Project Fear' - we'll see.

 

[Ultimatum]

That's rich.

The Leave campaign has been built on lies and false promises with no reference to fact in the last 4-months. The campaigner leaders and their Murdoch press lackeys are now back peddling as fast as they can and down playing expectations.
Cameron and Osborne are basically saying, "You got us in this mess, sort it"
Johnson, Gove, Duncan-Smith, Rees-Mogg, etc. have gone to ground.
Europe has basically said, "OK get your act together UK we don't give a damn"

All of this was totally predictable - but it was the Remain camp that was 'Project Fear' - we'll see.

Excuse me, I despise the Leave campaign and the coprophagic Johnson/Gove/Farage trio.

They have sold a lie. I knew what I was voting for when I crossed "Leave", unlike the 17M+ who did so for "muh immigrunts".

The significant minority of us in the Leave Alliance are with you and your views of these people!

 

[oldbadger]

That's rich.

The Leave campaign has been built on lies and false promises with no reference to fact in the last 4-months. The campaigner leaders and their Murdoch press lackeys are now back peddling as fast as they can and down playing expectations.
Cameron and Osborne are basically saying, "You got us in this mess, sort it"
Johnson, Gove, Duncan-Smith, Rees-Mogg, etc. have gone to ground.
Europe has basically said, "OK get your act together UK we don't give a damn"

All of this was totally predictable - but it was the Remain camp that was 'Project Fear' - we'll see.

That's amzing! You mean to say that you knew, all along, what the vote would be?
So you made a killing with the right financial moves this week? Fantastic!

The Leavers got it right, but it will take time before you will see it, and by then you might have convinced yourself that it was your idea all along....?

 

[Altfish]

Excuse me, I despise the Leave campaign and the coprophagic Johnson/Gove/Farage trio.

They have sold a lie. I knew what I was voting for when I crossed "Leave", unlike the 17M+ who did so for "muh immigrunts".

The significant minority of us in the Leave Alliance are with you and your views of these people!

Oh, good.

You agree - you got your wish on a total lie.

Fair enough

 

[Rick O'Shez]

The Leavers got it right...

Hmm, that is far from clear at the moment.

 

[oldbadger]

No, it would be the other way round, Boris is a toff and would be the king. Not sure who would lead the New Model Army though, Corbyn is too much of a wimp.

Wot?!
Listen.... my old fowlin' piece can stay in the attic if I can't be a friggin' Roundhead.

And Boris would look great in Cromwellian armour!

 

[Rick O'Shez]

And Boris would look great in Cromwellian armour!

No, look here, he loves dressing up as royalty:

 

[oldbadger]

Hmm, that is far from clear at the moment.

Sometimes, just sometimes, a decision, taken on a flyer, based on gut feeling, can beat the bat---t out of decsions taken by Oxbridge (and Durham) graduates who took their time to consider their moves with precision intellectual care.

You would not need examples, but you know what some members are like..... 'citation, citation, citation....!'

So, how about:-
Helping to arm Sadam against Shia Iran, leaving all those armaments laying around for terrorism?
Helping to topple Sadam on a total lie and leaving the mid-East as a boiling pot for terrorism?
Helping to topple Gadaffi and leaving Libya as a boiling pot for terrorism?
Leaving Eu fishing craft to (all but) wipe out our fish stocks?
et al, et................

..... You know.... the errors caused by our top brains have cost so much. And so, just for once, can the lay folks take a shot-in-the-dark ....? but I do admit, we have taken a shot in the dark, and the ride is going to be one hell of a rollercoaster!

 

[Rick O'Shez]

..... we have taken a shot in the dark, and the ride is going to be one hell of a rollercoaster!

Well, yes, that's what is worrying about it. I'm glad I've got an Irish passport though.