Britain out of the EU

[oldbadger]

Wow!
I've just been reading (in another forum) that the Netherlands is rumbling about a possible exit, and then another post mentioned that France and Czech is hearing a lot of calls for exits.

Folks are beginning to say that this could eventually mean a Euro crash, while the Brit pound will almost certainly recover, and Brit do well from it.

So not everyone in the World thinks we are chumps today.

 

[Ultimatum]

Czech is hearing a lot of calls for exits.

Otherwise know as...


A Czeckout.

 

[Altfish]

And it was at this moment we knew A Greased Scotsman knew nothing about participation in the Single Market.

Once more you call people out as ignorant. So sad from someone who should be gracious in victory

 

[Altfish]

I'll bet that you're pleased, today!
But the Remains are kicking and screamin' so hard you'd think they were being robbed in a back alley.
Bad campaigners, nasty threats of higher costs, lower house values, lost businesses...... and then, poor losers.

Let's see, come back to that post in say 2-years time.

Meanwhile onward into the future, let's all get behind Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson and head for the riches in this promised land free from the shackles of the EU

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Meanwhile onward into the future, let's all get behind Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson and head for the riches in this promised land free from the shackles of the EU

I'm quite worried about what's going to become of the NHS with these right-wing eccentrics running things. Nigel Farage has called for an insurance-based system to replace the NHS, Michael Gove is co-author of a book that says the NHS is “no longer relevant in the 21st century”, and Boris Johnson has said: “If people have to pay for NHS services, they will value them more”.

 

[Flankerl]

It's like watching footage of the Hindenburg disaster. You ever seen that? Absolutely breath-taking... until you realise everyone is screwed.

Yeah especially those ones running out of the fire.

If you squint your eyes hard enough one may even wear a kilt.

And it was at this moment we knew A Greased Scotsman knew nothing about participation in the Single Market.

Says the one who is against EU regulations and Freedom of Movement but wants to join EFTA.

Wow!
I've just been reading (in another forum) that the Netherlands is rumbling about a possible exit, and then another post mentioned that France and Czech is hearing a lot of calls for exits.

Folks are beginning to say that this could eventually mean a Euro crash, while the Brit pound will almost certainly recover, and Brit do well from it.

So not everyone in the World thinks we are chumps today.

I chuckled.

Netherlands: The country has been in a quasi monetary union with Germany since 1983, the year the Dutch Guilder was pegged to the German Mark. Its heavily reliant on Europe as a trade hub and is closely interlinked in the BeNeLux and with Germany. (oh and regarding the trade hub, there is a rather unused one in Lower Saxony that is dying to be used in case you want to use it as an argument for leaving)

France: So who will pay the French Farmers all their money? No one? Cool.

Czech Republic: So the country is kinda land locked, completely surrounded by EU members, I imagine trade would be hilarious. Oh and its heavily reliant on EU subsidies. But ssssh don't tell the British yellow press.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

Also, I agree it is an appeal to authority, but if we cannot make a rational decision with the aid of authority (experts in the fields) then by what are we making a decision from? The facts I read about are from those experts. I'd rather side with people who know what they're talking about rather than listen to Joe Pleb down the road who knows nothing about economics or the way the EU functions.

Some of the economists who warned against Brexit were the ones who wanted us in the ERM or even in the euro! Did any of them warn us before the the 2008 crisis? For that matter, how many economists have warned against any financial crisis in the last 100 years? Or agreed on a solution after it happened? Economics is the ultimate pseudoscience.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

I'm quite worried about what's going to become of the NHS with these right-wing eccentrics running things. Nigel Farage has called for an insurance-based system to replace the NHS, Michael Gove is co-author of a book that says the NHS is “no longer relevant in the 21st century”, and Boris Johnson has said: “If people have to pay for NHS services, they will value them more”.

The Germans and the Dutch have an insurance-based system. The French have state finance of health care, but they don't have an NHS: health-care run as a nationalised industry. Nor do any of the three have 4-hour waiting in the emergency departments, to the best of my knowledge. They certainly have far better prognoses for most diseases.

Of course, if you don't like Brexit you could always go back to the Irish Republic!

 

[Rick O'Shez]

So not everyone in the World thinks we are chumps today.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I chuckled.

Netherlands: The country has been in a quasi monetary union with Germany since 1983, the year the Dutch Guilder was pegged to the German Mark. Its heavily reliant on Europe as a trade hub and is closely interlinked in the BeNeLux and with Germany. (oh and regarding the trade hub, there is a rather unused one in Lower Saxony that is dying to be used in case you want to use it as an argument for leaving)

Wales voted for Brexit even though it's the poorest of the British home nations and the EU funding it receives goes some way to countering the underspend by Westminster. Always bet on stupidity.

 

[Yerda]

And over night the UK lost 20 years of investment. The entire economy is down by 10%.
The British Pound as low as 30 years ago.

Oh my this is so beautiful.

I suppose it isn't by chance that you guys invented the term schadenfreude.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

The Germans and the Dutch have an insurance-based system. The French have state finance of health care, but they don't have an NHS: health-care run as a nationalised industry. Nor do any of the three have 4-hour waiting in the emergency departments, to the best of my knowledge. They certainly have far better prognoses for most diseases.

They are also more expensive. But my point stands, I don't believe these characters can be trusted with the future of the NHS.

 

[oldbadger]

Let's see, come back to that post in say 2-years time.

Meanwhile onward into the future, let's all get behind Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson and head for the riches in this promised land free from the shackles of the EU

Come back to it now. It was referring to recent campaigning, and attitudes today!
Anyway, a week is a long time in politics, and there you are, needing blooming years!

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Otherwise know as...


A Czeckout.

That was quite clever. Well done

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

And it was at this moment we knew A Greased Scotsman knew nothing about participation in the Single Market.

Of course. I'm ignorant and you know more than me. How can the UK get into the EFTA when we're against Freedom of Movement and have no bargaining position?

 

[oldbadger]

I chuckled.

Netherlands: The country has been in a quasi monetary union with Germany since 1983, the year the Dutch Guilder was pegged to the German Mark. Its heavily reliant on Europe as a trade hub and is closely interlinked in the BeNeLux and with Germany. (oh and regarding the trade hub, there is a rather unused one in Lower Saxony that is dying to be used in case you want to use it as an argument for leaving)

France: So who will pay the French Farmers all their money? No one? Cool.

Czech Republic: So the country is kinda land locked, completely surrounded by EU members, I imagine trade would be hilarious. Oh and its heavily reliant on EU subsidies. But ssssh don't tell the British yellow press.

What a mess.
Thank goodness we will be clear of it.

 

[oldbadger]

I suppose it isn't by chance that you guys invented the term schadenfreude.

Ha ha,!
Well, with such a devalued pound, our commerce and industry is going to take off somewhat.

They laugh, but they be daft!

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

No such thing as good or bad loosers in politics.
you just keep on plugging away for what you believe.

The UK, as it was, may become a distant memory of faded glory.
and return to being an insignificant island. But we shall all live in hopes of better things. Our rise and fall over the past 500 years has been interesting, but not good reading.
Our try at being able to cooperate with other nations for the past 40 or so years has ended in abject failure. We are like a spoilt brat who will not share anything. Wants the biggest slice of the cake, and who always wants to steer the ship.
This latest exploit will leave us with few friends and the poorer in every way.

I feel sorry for the young who have had their hopes and futures dashed by a bitter older generation who were never up to the task.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

It means that Poles, Latvians, Czecks and other Eastern Europeans are taking many jobs that Brits don't even apply for. It means that a % of Brits are living on benefits almost continuosly. It means what it says. It means that we have to all get back into a work for pay lifestyle.

So what part of leaving the EU do you think will change that? Do you think that leaving the EU means all these 'undeserving foreigners' will upsticks and go back to their countries of origin? Do you think that when they do all these unemployed Britons will wake up and think "Oh Lord, there are jobs out there that need doing and now there are no migrants to do them! I shall apply to sweep streets for minimum wage post-haste!" - especially in an environment where the Tories will be free to repeal the Human Rights Act and not replace it with anything close to meeting the same standard or even at all?

You didn't know what such a simple sentence meant?
I can read that you are pessimistic, negative, Europhile, which m,eansd that this is a bad day, week, month and yrear for you. But for the Europhobes they need to understand that after this week's p--s ups they will need to get serious.

Actually I'm a cautiously optimistic Scottish European who believes the UK (and, more importantly, Scotland) is going to suffer because of Little England Syndrome but that Scotland has a way to finally be free of it. Oh, and I'm reacting emotively to a situation I feel strongly about which deeply affects the lives of people I care for. **** me, there must be something wrong with me for daring to display emotion, right? Thanks for the free and unasked for psychiatric evaluation. I'll be sure to pay in a currency suited to your qualifications, doctor.

 

[Osal]

I think the US gov should recall our embassy and close our military bases in England and its dependencies. If Brits think they can go it alone, so be it. Brits have never liked us, anyway.

The Scots and Irish would welcome us ........ and our money.