British Israelism?

[Etritonakin]

I'm sorry that you can't recall your own posts.

Tell it to the hackers, I guess.

 

[SaintUriah]

Where, please?

Regards

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The problems is jews The Persians stole the Torah When they brought down Babylon made new Torah
The Book of Madi Kings its solomon not them

Krishnah in Torah

Krishna - Wikipedia

What's he doing?
are you interested

I will help you

Persians king take stolen
You find their king flies in the carpet of the wind it belong to solomon not them

What is the problem of the Israelis with Solomon? to make it not prophet's and they Witnesses that the Lord brought him in a dream as Torah say

4 holybooks talk about solomon
They stolen even haman was

What the Persian kings do in the Torah is definitely not the word of God

He is the advisor of the pharaoh in the Qur’an and the hieroglyph inscription
Maybe persian They stole the traces of Babylon and Sumer
You have to get out of this circle

Is it possible to provide Sanskrit books translated into English?

 

[Ebionite]

many of the northern tribes left for Jerusalem.

You left out the part about their purpose being to sacrifice at the temple.

During the reign of Asa of the southern kingdom more from the northern tribes of Israel came to Jerusalem.

Again you leave out the purpose, being to assemble to make offerings and enter into a covenant.

A decade after the Assyrian captivity, during the reign of King Hezekiah of Judah more from the northern tribes came to Jerusalem. ( 2 Chronicles 30: 1-27)

Again you leave out the purpose, this time of keeping the passover.

Here are the verses that describe the different deportations:

First deportation, circa 734 BCE:

And the Elah of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, and the spirit of Tilgathpilneser king of Assyria, and he carried them away, even the Reubenites, and the Gadites, and the half tribe of Manasseh, and brought them unto Halah, and Habor, and Hara, and to the river Gozan, unto this day.
1 Chronicles 5:26

Second deportation, circa 721 BC:

In the ninth year of Hoshea the king of Assyria took Samaria, and carried Israel away into Assyria, and placed them in Halah and in Habor by the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes.
2 Kings 17:6

Third deportation circa 702 BCE

And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall yet again take root downward, and bear fruit upward.
2 Kings 19:30

Fourth deportation circa 676 BCE.

Wherefore YHWH brought upon them the captains of the host of the king of Assyria, which took Manasseh among the thorns, and bound him with fetters, and carried him to Babylon.
2 Chronicles 33:11

Israelite Deportations by Assyria

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

You left out the part about their purpose being to sacrifice at the temple.


Again you leave out the purpose, being to assemble to make offerings and enter into a covenant.


Again you leave out the purpose, this time of keeping the passover.

Here are the verses that describe the different deportations:

First deportation, circa 734 BCE:

And the Elah of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, and the spirit of Tilgathpilneser king of Assyria, and he carried them away, even the Reubenites, and the Gadites, and the half tribe of Manasseh, and brought them unto Halah, and Habor, and Hara, and to the river Gozan, unto this day.
1 Chronicles 5:26

Second deportation, circa 721 BC:

In the ninth year of Hoshea the king of Assyria took Samaria, and carried Israel away into Assyria, and placed them in Halah and in Habor by the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes.
2 Kings 17:6

Third deportation circa 702 BCE

And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall yet again take root downward, and bear fruit upward.
2 Kings 19:30

Fourth deportation circa 676 BCE.

Wherefore YHWH brought upon them the captains of the host of the king of Assyria, which took Manasseh among the thorns, and bound him with fetters, and carried him to Babylon.
2 Chronicles 33:11

Israelite Deportations by Assyria[/QUOT

You go, Theo..

 

[Ebionite]

You go, Theo..

There's a connection between Isaac, Saxon as Isaac-son, the convenant of circumcision associated with Isaac, and the word British (bryt eysh), meaning covenant male in Hebrew.
Also the hundred of the English common law connects to Abraham who was one hundred years old when Isaac was born. Isaac is associated with laughter, both by his name and by his mother Sarah laughing when she heard that she would bear a son to Abraham. The archetype of laughter has a value of one hundred in the Sepher Yetzirah.

LEX TERRIE. The law of the land. The common law, or the due course of the common law ;the general law of the land. Bract. fol. 17b. Equivalent to "due process of law." In the strictest sense, trial by oath; the privilege of making oath. Bracton uses the phrase to denote a freeman's privilege of being sworn in court as a juror or witness, which jurors convicted of perjury forfeited, (legem terse amittant.) Bract. fol. 292b. The phrase means "the procedure of the old popular law." Thayer, Evid. 201, quoting Brunner, Schw. 254, and Fortesq. de Laud. c. 26 (Selden's notes). (Blacks 4th edition)

And Elohim said, This [is] the token[אות] of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that [is] with you, for perpetual generations:
Genesis 9:12

The Hebrew word אות is pronounced as oath, and means sign. The nations of Ephraim are a good match for the Commonwealth, too.

And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
Genesis 48:19

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

There's a connection between Isaac, Saxon as Isaac-son, the convenant of circumcision associated with Isaac, and the word British (bryt eysh), meaning covenant male in Hebrew.
Also the hundred of the English common law connects to Abraham who was one hundred years old when Isaac was born. Isaac is associated with laughter, both by his name and by his mother Sarah laughing when she heard that she would bear a son to Abraham. The archetype of laughter has a value of one hundred in the Sepher Yetzirah.

LEX TERRIE. The law of the land. The common law, or the due course of the common law ;the general law of the land. Bract. fol. 17b. Equivalent to "due process of law." In the strictest sense, trial by oath; the privilege of making oath. Bracton uses the phrase to denote a freeman's privilege of being sworn in court as a juror or witness, which jurors convicted of perjury forfeited, (legem terse amittant.) Bract. fol. 292b. The phrase means "the procedure of the old popular law." Thayer, Evid. 201, quoting Brunner, Schw. 254, and Fortesq. de Laud. c. 26 (Selden's notes). (Blacks 4th edition)

And Elohim said, This [is] the token[אות] of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that [is] with you, for perpetual generations:
Genesis 9:12

The Hebrew word אות is pronounced as oath, and means sign. The nations of Ephraim are a good match for the Commonwealth, too.

And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
Genesis 48:19

Thank you Theo, I'm well aware of this too. And I hope people in here are paying attention.

 

[Rival]

There's a connection between Isaac, Saxon as Isaac-son, the convenant of circumcision associated with Isaac, and the word British (bryt eysh), meaning covenant male in Hebrew.
Also the hundred of the English common law connects to Abraham who was one hundred years old when Isaac was born. Isaac is associated with laughter, both by his name and by his mother Sarah laughing when she heard that she would bear a son to Abraham. The archetype of laughter has a value of one hundred in the Sepher Yetzirah.

LEX TERRIE. The law of the land. The common law, or the due course of the common law ;the general law of the land. Bract. fol. 17b. Equivalent to "due process of law." In the strictest sense, trial by oath; the privilege of making oath. Bracton uses the phrase to denote a freeman's privilege of being sworn in court as a juror or witness, which jurors convicted of perjury forfeited, (legem terse amittant.) Bract. fol. 292b. The phrase means "the procedure of the old popular law." Thayer, Evid. 201, quoting Brunner, Schw. 254, and Fortesq. de Laud. c. 26 (Selden's notes). (Blacks 4th edition)

And Elohim said, This [is] the token[אות] of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that [is] with you, for perpetual generations:
Genesis 9:12

The Hebrew word אות is pronounced as oath, and means sign. The nations of Ephraim are a good match for the Commonwealth, too.

And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
Genesis 48:19

 

[Rival]

and the word British (bryt eysh), meaning covenant male in Hebrew.

Old English Breoton, Bryten etc., from Latin Britannia; later reinforced by Anglo-Norman Britaine, Old French Bretaigne, from Latin Brittannia, variant of Britannia, from Britannī. Ultimately from Proto-Brythonic *Prɨdėn (“Britain”) from *Pritanī (also compare *Prɨdɨn (“Picts”) from *Pritenī), attested to in Ancient Greek as Πρεττανική (Prettanikḗ), compare Welsh Prydain.

There's a connection between Isaac, Saxon as Isaac-son,

Proto-Germanic *sahsô, probably originally a derivative of Proto-Germanic *sahsą (“rock, knife”), from Proto-Indo-European *sek- (“to cut”).

I have only come across this nonsense on Stormfront.

Stormfront.

 

[Harel13]

probably

Probably shouldn't have put in "probably". That's a crack in the theory.

 

[Rival]

Probably shouldn't have put in "probably". That's a crack in the theory.

It's honest and in any case, far more likely

 

[dybmh]

the word British (bryt eysh), meaning covenant male in Hebrew.

When I searched, bryt eysh ("בר'ת א'ש") doesn't occur in Tanach. What's a bryt eysh, a covenant male? Is this a phrase/concept you've come up with on your own?

 

[paarsurrey]

"If what you are saying is true, my people would have a history, a national folktale, of being Israelites, a lost tribe"
"Our language would show traces of this, our folklore,"

I understand that ten (out of the total twelve) tribes of Israel who were in exile, they mostly went eastward and settled in Kashmir and the neighboring regions of Afghanistan and North Western part of Pakistan.

Regards
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Pashtun clue to lost tribes of Israel
Rory McCarthy, Jerusalem
Sun 17 Jan 2010
"Israel is to fund a rare genetic study to determine whether there is a link between the lost tribes of Israel and the Pashtuns of Afghanistan and northern Pakistan.
Historical and anecdotal evidence strongly suggests a connection, but definitive scientific proof has never been found. Some leading Israeli anthropologists believe that, of all the many groups in the world who claim a connection to the 10 lost tribes, the Pashtuns, or Pathans, have the most compelling case. Paradoxically it is from the Pashtuns that the ultra-conservative Islamic Taliban movement in Afghanistan emerged. Pashtuns themselves sometimes talk of their Israelite connection, but show few signs of sympathy with, or any wish to migrate to, the modern Israeli state."
Pashtun clue to lost tribes of Israel

To add further:

"Afghana or Avagana[3] is a tribal chief or prince in Pashtun, said to be of Bani Israel (Israelite) origin, who is traditionally considered the progenitor of modern-day Pashtuns,[4][5][6][7][8] the largest ethnic group in Afghanistan and second largest in Pakistan. The ethnonym "Afghan" is believed to derive from his name.[4][5][6][7][8]

According to the Tanakh, King Saul (Talut) was the son of Kish, a member of the tribe of Benjamin, one of the twelve Tribes of Israel (1 Samuel 9:1-2). Saul married Ahinoam, daughter of Ahimaaz and had four sons and two daughters. The sons were Jonathan, Abinadab, Malchishua and Ish-bosheth. Saul's daughters were named Merab and Michal.[9]

Pashtun folklore and some historians[who?] suggest that King Saul had five sons instead of four, the fifth was named Irmia (Jeremiah).[10][11][12]Family tree and lineage

Further information: Afghan (ethnonym)

The legend describes Malak Afghana as the son of Irmia (Jeremiah) and grandson of King Saul (Talut).[10][11][12] This name is mentioned in the form of Abgan in the 3rd century CE by the Sassanians[13] and as Avagana in the 6th century CE by Indian astronomer Varahamihira.[14]

It is mentioned that Afghana was orphaned at a young age, and brought up by King David. When Solomon became the king, Afghana was made commander-in-chief of the army. Malak Afghana is also credited with the building of the first temple in Jerusalem, the Temple Mount, known later in Arabic as the Haram al-Sharif (Arabic: الحرم القدسي الشريف‎, al-haram al-qudsī ash-sharīf):[15][16][17]

According to Tadhkirat al-Muluk, Malak Afghana migrated to the place known as Takht-i-Sulaiman and generations later Qais Abdur Rashid, a descendant of Malak Afghana, embraced Islam.[18]"

Afghana - Wikipedia
Regards

 

[Ebionite]

I have only come across this nonsense on Stormfront.

Stormfront.

Not my problem that you can't cope with the facts.

 

[Jedster]

When I searched, bryt eysh ("בר'ת א'ש") doesn't occur in Tanach. What's a bryt eysh, a covenant male? Is this a phrase/concept you've come up with on your own?

Actually it is a secret prophesy about Roundheads, who were the supporters of the Parliament of England during the English Civil War (1641–1652).

It is likely that only British people will understand this mystery. I shall say no more.

 

[Ebionite]

When I searched, bryt eysh ("בר'ת א'ש") doesn't occur in Tanach.

So what?

What's a bryt eysh, a covenant male?

What else would it be?

Is this a phrase/concept you've come up with on your own?

Would it make any difference it that was the case?

Covenant male is meaningful within the context of the covenant of circumcision, since only males are circumcised.

 

[dybmh]

So what?

If it were a Torah concept, that would make it more relevant. The fact that it's not makes it less relevant.

What else would it be?

An answer in the form of "What else" is the sign of a weak argument. Maybe it's a man who officiates over covenant. Or maybe it's someone who enforces the covenant?

Would it make any difference it that was the case?

Yes, it matters if you made it up.

Here's the thing. Brit-Ish is not the same as בר'ת א'ש. But, if it makes you happy, believe whatever you want.

 

[Rival]

Not my problem that you can't cope with the facts.

I can't cope with the nonsense as you have given no facts.

 

[Ebionite]

I can't cope with the nonsense as you have given no facts.

Denial of the facts just emphasises their significance.

 

[Ebionite]

If it were a Torah concept, that would make it more relevant. The fact that it's not makes it less relevant.

It's related to the concept from the Torah of the nations of Ephraim.

An answer in the form of "What else" is the sign of a weak argument.

No, it's the basis of Occam's razor. The fact that there's no alternative explanation means that covenant man is the best translation of the Hebrew phrase בר'ת א'ש.

Yes, it matters if you made it up.

It's absurd to think that recognizing the obvious is the same as "making something up".

Brit-Ish is not the same as בר'ת א'ש.

It sounds pretty much the same. Why are you so opposed to the idea that the British Empire is the manifestation of a prophecy about Jospeh's son Ephraim?

 

[dybmh]

It's related to the concept from the Torah of the nations of Ephraim.

OK. I'll go back through the thread and look for that link.

No, it's the basis of Occam's razor. The fact that there's no alternative explanation means that covenant man is the best translation of the Hebrew phrase בר'ת א'ש.

So far, there is no **Hebrew Phrase** like that. Here's the Google search on that phrase: ( link ). If you look at the results, there are no matches for "בר'ת א'ש". None.

It's absurd to think that recognizing the obvious is the same as "making something up".

It's not obvious. Words that sound similar in two different languages are not similar. Example: In Hebrew, the word for a fish... is dog Dalet+Gimmel. A Dog is not a fish. A British is not a Covenant Male. A "Son" is not a shining star in the sky.... It's just a very weak tenuous argument. The words sound the same therefore "obviously" the words are equivalent? No.

It sounds pretty much the same.

Except that to many folks, including me, it's a bris, not a brit. But besides that...

Why are you so opposed to the idea that the British Empire is the manifestation of a prophecy about Jospeh's son Ephraim?

I'm not familiar with it, to be honest. So I'm neither for nor against it. I'm just ignorant