British Values

[Notanumber]

Like the fact that the EDL are deafeningly silent over the number of white paedophiles who are often of a Christian background.

Tommy has not been connected with the EDL for ages.

 

[Notanumber]

So the answer to my question: "How many rape gangs did Stephen bring to light that weren't already being dealt with by the legal system?" is the same as it was before: zero.

Plenty of people are more than satisfied with effort that Tommy has put in and they appreciate it.


You can’t please all of the people all of the time, but he is doing his best.

 

[Altfish]

Plenty of people are more than satisfied with effort that Tommy has put in and they appreciate it.


You can’t please all of the people all of the time, but he is doing his best.

His best being, to almost get the cases thrown out through his crass stupidity.

 

[Notanumber]

His best being, to almost get the cases thrown out through his crass stupidity.

It is obvious that you don’t like Tommy, but you can’t put your head above the parapet these days without making enemies even if you are in the right.

 

[Altfish]

It is obvious that you don’t like Tommy, but you can’t put your head above the parapet these days without making enemies even if you are in the right.

Is there anything I have said that is untrue?
Contempt of Court, not just once, twice - for someone who praises British Values, it is obvious that British Courts do not fall under his definition of those values.

 

[Notanumber]

Is there anything I have said that is untrue?
Contempt of Court, not just once, twice - for someone who praises British Values, it is obvious that British Courts do not fall under his definition of those values.

Has he been found guilty for the harsh punishment that he received?

In May 2018, he was jailed for potentially prejudicing a court case after broadcasting on social media outside Leeds Crown Court.

He was sentenced to 13 months - 10 months for the contempt of court in Leeds and a further three months for breaching the previous suspended sentence.

Mr Yaxley-Lennon appealed against both contempt findings.

Three judges quashed the Leeds ruling, saying the judge should not have commenced contempt proceedings that day.

They ordered the case be reheard so that the allegations could be fully examined and, after a brief appearance at the Old Bailey in September, the case was adjourned until today.

Mr Yaxley-Lennon says the whole thing is a "political witch-hunt" designed to stop him telling the truth about what he calls "Muslim rape gangs".

The anti-Islam campaigner described the media as the "enemy of the people" and blamed the government, police and social services for "sacrificing a generation of our daughters at the hands of the multiculturalism altar".

Robinson case referred to attorney general

 

[Altfish]

Has he been found guilty for the harsh punishment that he received?

In May 2018, he was jailed for potentially prejudicing a court case after broadcasting on social media outside Leeds Crown Court.

He was sentenced to 13 months - 10 months for the contempt of court in Leeds and a further three months for breaching the previous suspended sentence.

Mr Yaxley-Lennon appealed against both contempt findings.

Three judges quashed the Leeds ruling, saying the judge should not have commenced contempt proceedings that day.

They ordered the case be reheard so that the allegations could be fully examined and, after a brief appearance at the Old Bailey in September, the case was adjourned until today.

Mr Yaxley-Lennon says the whole thing is a "political witch-hunt" designed to stop him telling the truth about what he calls "Muslim rape gangs".

The anti-Islam campaigner described the media as the "enemy of the people" and blamed the government, police and social services for "sacrificing a generation of our daughters at the hands of the multiculturalism altar".

Robinson case referred to attorney general

But he did potentially prejudice the court cases.

 

[Notanumber]

But he did potentially prejudice the court cases.

So committing a potential crime is sufficient justification to imprison someone in modern Britain.

How disgusting is that?

 

[Altfish]

So committing a potential crime is sufficient justification to imprison someone in modern Britain.

How disgusting is that?

It's a good job we have the European Court of Human Rights as a back stop to the disgusting British Laws...oh, wait a minute...that's one of the reasons we are leaving...I'll get my coat

 

[ImmortalFlame]

So committing a potential crime is sufficient justification to imprison someone in modern Britain.

How disgusting is that?

Um, no. They were arrested for actually committing a crime. The crime was an act that could potentially prejudice a case, and that's the reason the act he carried out was a crime. It wasn't a "potential" crime. It was a crime. In the same way that leaving a child unattended in a car for long periods of time, even if it doesn't result in the child's death, is a crime. It's called child endangerment. A person can be arrested and tried for endangering the life of a child in much the same way a person can be arrested and tried for endangering the validity of a court case. He committed contempt of court, which is a crime. Not a "potential crime".

 

[Notanumber]

It's a good job we have the European Court of Human Rights

How effective were they in preventing an injustice in Tommy’s case?

 

[Notanumber]

Um, no. They were arrested for actually committing a crime. The crime was an act that could potentially prejudice a case, and that's the reason the act he carried out was a crime. It wasn't a "potential" crime. It was a crime. In the same way that leaving a child unattended in a car for long periods of time, even if it doesn't result in the child's death, is a crime. It's called child endangerment. A person can be arrested and tried for endangering the life of a child in much the same way a person can be arrested and tried for endangering the validity of a court case. He committed contempt of court, which is a crime. Not a "potential crime".

Are all these other culprits of potential crimes imprisoned without a trial?

 

[Maqsood]

Are all these other culprits of potential crimes imprisoned without a trial?

One has to assume deliberate disingenuity, to quote a post explaining that they were not potential crimes but actual crimes, and to then persist in the belief that the crimes were only potential.

 

[Altfish]

How effective were they in preventing an injustice in Tommy’s case?

It has to be referred to them

 

[Notanumber]

It has to be referred to them

In the meantime, the British justice system had recklessly put Tommy’s life in danger.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

So committing a potential crime is sufficient justification to imprison someone in modern Britain.

How disgusting is that?

You're using the word 'potential' in the wrong context here.

In 2017 Stephen was ordered by a judge to not make any more videos outside court houses as he had done previously - for fear he might prejudice the trials going on at the time - and was given a suspended sentence.

In 2018 he proceeded to ignore the judge's instruction and do exactly that which resulted in his prison sentence becoming active. This is why he was charged with contempt of court: for ignoring the judge's instructions.

I honestly can't tell if you attempting to describe Stephen's contempt of court as "a potential crime" is just you not understanding the context in which the word potential is being used or if you're deliberately taking it out of context as a desperate form of cop-out.

In the meantime, the British justice system had recklessly put Tommy’s life in danger.

By taking his TV away so he couldn't watch Love Island. Even though he told one of the stars of the show that Love Island got him through his prison sentence.

Methinks there's a lie in there somewhere...

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Tommy has not been connected with the EDL for ages.

But he did influence the group during its earliest years. They are what they are thanks to him and they've not changed much in the time since he left.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Plenty of people are more than satisfied with effort that Tommy has put in and they appreciate it.

Sounds like those people are both easily led and easily pleased. That doesn't change the fact that Stephen has brought no groups to the public light that weren't already being dealt with by the legal system.

You can’t please all of the people all of the time, but he is doing his best.

If he were trying to please all of the people he wouldn't be appealing to the lowest common denominator by constantly spewing populist bull****, appealing to peoples' ignorance and playing the victim.

 

[Notanumber]

But he did influence the group during its earliest years. They are what they are thanks to him and they've not changed much in the time since he left.

I think you are confusing him with somebody called Mohammad.

 

[Altfish]

In the meantime, the British justice system had recklessly put Tommy’s life in danger.

You have a strange grasp of reality.