British Values

[Notanumber]

Way to both strawman and spectacularly miss the point at the same time.

Nobody is saying we should "have a general election every other week". Nevertheless, the fact we have more than one general election in our lifetimes is a tacit admission that democracy is a process; that if a political party lies to get what it wants at the ballot box the electorate has the right to change their minds or not.

With Brexit the same principle should apply; and the only people who oppose this are the same people who claim they are the true supporters of democracy while

• continuing to stand by a result that was achieved through deception and outright law-breaking;
• claiming that people should not be allowed a say on the subject now that they have a better idea of what Brexit will actually involve;
• continuing to insist that the Government must enact the result of an advisory referendum where entire affected parties were disenfranchised, possibly to give the Leave side more of a chance to win;
• liberally reinterpreting the result of the vote far beyond the remit of the question to mean whatever they want;
• waiting until after the ballot came in and you got the result you wanted to tell us what Brexit meant - or at least try to;

Your claims that you are defending democracy are thoroughly dishonest while:

1. Supporting the idea that we cannot vote again based on new information;
2. You support a news rag that called judges 'the enemies of the people' because they stopped Theresa May from using archaic statutes to keep Parliament out of the process;
3. You support far-right parties preoccupied with cultural & ideological purity;
4. You support populist thugs trying to get a toe in the door of politics who intimidate their detractors;
5. You continue to defend an argument that saw a sitting MP killed for opposing it;
6. You constantly try to blame things going wrong as a result of the Brexit vote on everyone except the people who voted for Brexit.

In your eyes, I must be a terrible person and all because I want my country back.

I’m backing Britain!

 

[Altfish]

In your eyes, I must be a terrible person and all because I want my country back.

I’m backing Britain!

I was born and still live in the UK, I never lost my country, it's a great place and I still love it despite the hate brought about by Brexit.

 

[Notanumber]

I was born and still live in the UK, I never lost my country, it's a great place and I still love it despite the hate brought about by Brexit.

You will love it even more when we take back control.

 

[Altfish]

You will love it even more when we take back control.

I very much doubt it; are you planning to bring back smog and rationing?

 

[Notanumber]

I very much doubt it; are you planning to bring back smog and rationing?

It is poor reflection on our politicians if Great Britain & NI cannot find anyone better than the EU commissioners to ensure that we avoid the reoccurrence of smog and rationing.

No wonder they are so desperate to stay in the EU if they are so incompetent.

 

[Altfish]

It is poor reflection on our politicians if Great Britain & NI cannot find anyone better than the EU commissioners to ensure that we avoid the reoccurrence of smog and rationing.

No wonder they are so desperate to stay in the EU if they are so incompetent.

Well at the moment it is ...... EU Negotiators 5 UK Negotiators 0

So to answer your question, no we don't have the calibre of people that are better than the EUs

 

[Notanumber]

Well at the moment it is ...... EU Negotiators 5 UK Negotiators 0

So to answer your question, no we don't have the calibre of people that are better than the EUs

If Brexit has shown us anything, it has shown us that we need to drain the swamp.

We need a political party that will stand up to the EU. We need Gerard Batten and UKIP.

 

[Altfish]

If Brexit has shown us anything, it has shown us that we need to drain the swamp.

We need a political party that will stand up to the EU. We need Gerard Batten and UKIP.

And about 1% of the electorate agree with you.
If you get to Betfair they'll give you 400-1; so you should be able to bet some £.s.d. on that

 

[Notanumber]

And about 1% of the electorate agree with you.
If you get to Betfair they'll give you 400-1; so you should be able to bet some £.s.d. on that

What a good job we did not listen to the experts and join the Euro.

There was a wailing and a gnashing of teeth by the doom and gloom Europhile merchants over that.

 

[ChristineM]

You will love it even more when we take back control.

Brexit straw man. The uk govt has control, they are just to cowardly to admit they have no clue how to wield it so they blame the eu

And the gullible fall for it?

 

[Altfish]

What a good job we did not listen to the experts and join the Euro.

There was a wailing and a gnashing of teeth by the doom and gloom Europhile merchants over that.

And another strawman, Brown set criteria that all had to be met before we joined the Euro.
They were never met so we were never going to join.

 

[ChristineM]

And another strawman, Brown set criteria that all had to be met before we joined the Euro.
They were never met so we were never going to join.

He "thinks" he is very good at straw men.

 

[exchemist]

Fortunately, he still has a voice. Just imagine what this country will be like when our voices are silenced.

Then those with privileged speech will be able to spout their propaganda unchallenged.

Yup he has a voice all right. What a nice chap he is: Tommy Robinson boasts about drugs and proclaims himself 'king of the whole Islam race', in leaked video

 

[Notanumber]

Yup he has a voice all right. What a nice chap he is: Tommy Robinson boasts about drugs and proclaims himself 'king of the whole Islam race', in leaked video

Has Tommy ever claimed to be some kind of saint?

He is not the only one that likes a pint but that does not mean that he takes drugs.

How many bars are there in Parliament?

Talking of MP’s, was whatever he has said and done in your link been bad enough that he has been forced to wear an electronic tag?

Jailed MP to become first to wear electronic tag in Parliament | Metro News

He admits he was drunk and what he said was just banter between mates but one of those “mates” turned out to be a Judas.

As he says, would he be stupid enough to get involved with drugs in a Sharia controlled Islamic country?

After all the dirt digging that the MSM have been busy doing to try to discredit him is this the best that they can do?

I believe Tommy’s comments were private and made a long time ago. Most people have some skeletons in their closet. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

I couldn’t access your link but I have provided some links for you with some relevant information.

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The Sun reporter said he had no respect for Tommy because he beat up his pregnant wife and attacked a police officer that was trying to defend her, but this is the only incident that I can find involving police and they were attacking Tommy.

It will be interesting to find out what Tommy has discovered about the BBC.

 

[Altfish]

Has Tommy ever claimed to be some kind of saint?

He is not the only one that likes a pint but that does not mean that he takes drugs.

How many bars are there in Parliament?

Talking of MP’s, was whatever he has said and done in your link been bad enough that he has been forced to wear an electronic tag?

Jailed MP to become first to wear electronic tag in Parliament | Metro News

He admits he was drunk and what he said was just banter between mates but one of those “mates” turned out to be a Judas.

As he says, would he be stupid enough to get involved with drugs in a Sharia controlled Islamic country?

After all the dirt digging that the MSM have been busy doing to try to discredit him is this the best that they can do?

I believe Tommy’s comments were private and made a long time ago. Most people have some skeletons in their closet. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

I couldn’t access your link but I have provided some links for you with some relevant information.

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The Sun reporter said he had no respect for Tommy because he beat up his pregnant wife and attacked a police officer that was trying to defend her, but this is the only incident that I can find involving police and they were attacking Tommy.

It will be interesting to find out what Tommy has discovered about the BBC.

You are now trying to defend the un-defendable. He is a drug fueled thug at times. It was always rumoured that he liked his 'Charlie'

 

[Notanumber]

You are now trying to defend the un-defendable. He is a drug fueled thug at times. It was always rumoured that he liked his 'Charlie'

Being a rough diamond does not mean that you are a druggie. Rumours are rumours and facts are facts. Where are your facts?

 

[Altfish]

Being a rough diamond does not mean that you are a druggie. Rumours are rumours and facts are facts. Where are your facts?

If I had facts (other than today's Sun article) I'd not have said rumours.

 

[Notanumber]

If I had facts (other than today's Sun article) I'd not have said rumours.

Thanks for the heads-up about what Jacob said.

If it comes to it, I hope Tommy does stand as a UKIP candidate for the European Parliament.

Given the chance, I would not be the only one that would willingly vote for him.

Rumours should not be British values!

 

[Altfish]

Thanks for the heads-up about what Jacob said.

If it comes to it, I hope Tommy does stand as a UKIP candidate for the European Parliament.

Given the chance, I would not be the only one that would willingly vote for him.

Rumours should not be British values!

Rumours, mostly untrue, are why we are in the Brexit mess we are now in.

 

[Notanumber]

Rumours, mostly untrue, are why we are in the Brexit mess we are now in.

Regardless of the rumours spread by the Remoaners, we are only in a Brexit mess if we fail to escape with a clean break.

Always look on the bright side of life.