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By Faith. Why?

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member

The only "cabals" left with power, meet at the Progressive, leftist WEF (World Economic Forum) every year. And they just determined that you should eat bugs and meal worms, and go without energy, for heat and production of fertilizers, so that China can produce solar panels for your northern Germany sunless landscape. A narrative that the young and naive, kind of gobble up. We may live to see them actually having to find enough bugs to keep themselves alive. At least China is advising their people to stock of for a coming bad time.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
No, it is extremists that do that. And you appear to be one yourself. You abuse terms like "Marxist" all of the time. That is no different from others calling you a fasicst.

Do you not understand that by your own standards you are a fascist?

Can you reason rationally? A simple yes or not will do.

And Dr. Malone has lowered himself to the level of a quack. That millions died is easily shown.

OMG!!! Tucker Carlson interview? Are you kidding me? Malone might as well hung a sign on his head stating "I'm with stupid".


FOX News, when they were sued because of something that Tucker Carlson said came up with the "Tucker Carson Defense":

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/9177...s-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

Fox's own lawyers said that you cannot trust anything that Carlson says.

Well, Dr. Malone, who invented the mRNA process, along with 17,000 other physicians, wrote a letter to the Administration, asking them to stop the use of the vaccine because of adverse effects, and the government was able to subvert that message by producing a clone empty web site. As for the FDA, which has not approved of the vaccine, 65% of the funding comes from the pharmaceutical companies. Bill Gates who helps fund WHO, which is run by a Chinese backed leader, invests his money in poison factories, such as Coca Cola, and the pharmaceutical companies, along with Fauci, who help fund Wuhan, and who also gets personal payments from the Pharmaceutica companies, predicted the covid plague months before it was exposed by the news media. Dr. Aseem Malhotra, a UK heart specialist, has also done the same type of research, and has asked for the cessation of covid vaccinations due to "adverse effects". Carlson is well liked outside of the Progressive leftist camp, and he was only the interviewer, not the interviewee. The Fascist Progressive left will always be quick to throw any adversary into the fire of name calling, disrespect and shaming, while they hold up their leaders Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, Swalwell, and Harris, as the best of the best and well diversified. I think their days are numbered. They should be glad that their partner China, didn't have a EMP bomb on their latest balloon, or their days would have been limited to about a month of life left for the majority of Americans, when faced with no electrical grid.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
The only "cabals" left with power, meet at the Progressive, leftist WEF (World Economic Forum) every year. And they just determined that you should eat bugs and meal worms, and go without energy, for heat and production of fertilizers, so that China can produce solar panels for your northern Germany sunless landscape. A narrative that the young and naive, kind of gobble up. We may live to see them actually having to find enough bugs to keep themselves alive. At least China is advising their people to stock of for a coming bad time.
Naive is thinking as you do.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Well, Dr. Malone, who invented the mRNA process, along with 17,000 other physicians, wrote a letter to the Administration, asking them to stop the use of the vaccine because of adverse effects, and the government was able to subvert that message by producing a clone empty web site. As for the FDA, which has not approved of the vaccine, 65% of the funding comes from the pharmaceutical companies. Bill Gates who helps fund WHO, which is run by a Chinese backed leader, invests his money in poison factories, such as Coca Cola, and the pharmaceutical companies, along with Fauci, who help fund Wuhan, and who also gets personal payments from the Pharmaceutica companies, predicted the covid plague months before it was exposed by the news media. Dr. Aseem Malhotra, a UK heart specialist, has also done the same type of research, and has asked for the cessation of covid vaccinations due to "adverse effects". Carlson is well liked outside of the Progressive leftist camp, and he was only the interviewer, not the interviewee. The Fascist Progressive left will always be quick to throw any adversary into the fire of name calling, disrespect and shaming, while they hold up their leaders Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, Swalwell, and Harris, as the best of the best and well diversified. I think their days are numbered. They should be glad that their partner China, didn't have a EMP bomb on their latest balloon, or their days would have been limited to about a month of life left for the majority of Americans, when faced with no electrical grid.
No, Malone invented only one part of it.

No one has found any of these adverse effects that you are talking about.

Do you even know what a reliable source is?
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
The new spirit and new heart happens after the house of Israel is taken out of the nations (Ezekiel 36:24-28) when they will be resettled in the "land that I gave to your forefathers", under the leadership of David (Ezekiel 37:15-28). At that time "they will walk in My ordinances, and keep My statutes, and observe them." (Ezekiel 37:24). At that time "they will no longer defile themselves" and "I will cleanse them" (Ezekiel 37:23). The covenant that the Gentile church follows is the "covenant with death" which "shall not stand" (Isaiah 28:18), which is better known as the gospel of grace/cross. And as stated in Ezekiel 37, the house of Ephraim/Israel, and the house of Judah, have not been joined, and will not be joined until after the "day of the LORD", when the nations/Gentiles are "crushed", and the "kingdom" is established "forever". (Daniel 2:44-45).
You are moving toward a position that makes Jesus (the 'suffering' servant) superfluous. Yet, what stands out from Jeremiah 31 is that a new heart and spirit are not given until sin is removed.

The last to come to faith are those that have clung to the law, awaiting the arrival of the Messiah. In the meantime, the Gospel has had to reach the four corners of the earth, in order that the Gentiles might receive the Gospel, just as lsaiah prophesied [lsaiah 42:6].
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
You are moving toward a position that makes Jesus (the 'suffering' servant) superfluous. Yet, what stands out from Jeremiah 31 is that a new heart and spirit are not given until sin is removed.

The last to come to faith are those that have clung to the law, awaiting the arrival of the Messiah. In the meantime, the Gospel has had to reach the four corners of the earth, in order that the Gentiles might receive the Gospel, just as lsaiah prophesied [lsaiah 42:6].

The "new covenant" of Jeremiah 31:32-33, is that "I will put My law within them". It is not that I will make My law "obsolete" or nail it to a cross. As for who "My servant" is, well Ezekiel 34:23 and Ezekiel 37:24 makes that clear, that the shepherd, who will be king/prince, and "shepherd over My flock" is David. As for the timing, that will be when Ephraim and Judah "acknowledge their guilt" (Hosea 5:15 -6:2), which will be "after two days" (2000 years), on the 3rd day, when "He will heal us". As for the Gentile church, the church of the false prophet Paul, well that church is shown to be as the "adulterous woman" (Hosea 3), who Hosea paid with the equivalence of 30 shekels of silver, and that she would stay for "many days", until the "sons of Israel" "return".
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Naive is thinking as you do.

I am thinking that you don't even have a clue as to what the WEF represents, so I will give you a link to a good socialist/communist main point of their program.
you will own nothing and be happy wef - Search Videos (bing.com)

In brief, WEF is an organization which supports the green agenda, central population control, eugenics, zero freedoms. As group of world leaders, which can trace its movement into the past, but with respect to the US, comes most recently out of Standard oil's monopolist JD Rockefeller, who went into the patent medicine business, which became the huge Pharmaceutical empire, which pulls the strings in Congress through the largest segment of contributed money, who support 65% of FDA funding in the US, and an equivalent type of funding in the UK at the rate of 78% of the funding of their clone of our FDA. It was David Rockefeller who financed the "Club of Rome" which mirrors the WEF, whose policies of selective chose, which was called eugenics, practiced through such organizations as Planned Parenthood founders, they can get rid of the Jews, the disabled, and whomever they pleased, as was well carried out by Hitler's 3rd Reich (3rd Roman empire). Bill Gates who invests in poison companies such as Coke a Cola, high processed food companies, and the pharmaceutical companies, who now supports WHO and WEF in place of David Rockefeller. Their aim is to reduce world population, of which plagues and starvation have worked in the past, and in the case of China, a fellow socialist state, with their one child policy, which is going to cause that nation to come crashing down. As for current information on China, I would suggest that you listen to the Chinese statistician who now lives in the US via her podcast (1) Lei's Real Talk - YouTube Facts often undermine "naive" positions.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
No, Malone invented only one part of it.

No one has found any of these adverse effects that you are talking about.

Do you even know what a reliable source is?

I am thinking that Dr. Malone and Dr. Malhotra, who both work in the field, and have studied the reports out of Pfizer, know a lot more about the subject than you. Keep in mind that in the US, the funding for the FDA and scientific research is primarily based on pharmaceutical industry funding, which is 65% funding for FDA in the US, and 78% for the UK similar institution. Keep in mind, that Dr. Malone had 17,000 signatures of other physicians requesting the stopping of the vaccine. Maybe instead of blindly following an industry, whose fiduciary duty is to make money for their investors, versus keeping the population healthy, you should read the report yourself, or actually watch the interview with Dr. Malone, who summarizes the data. Dr. Robert Malone joins 'Tucker Carlson Today' on Fox Nation | Fox News Video Suppressing of information is only going to get more people killed. I don't mean that people don't have the right to choose lousy politicians, such as Biden and Harris, which should be obvious except to the blind, and make poor uniformed choices, but they will have to live with the consequences, which could affect people around me. Dr. Malhotra suggested that his doctor father, who was in excellent health, take the vaccine, and the father quickly died of a heart stroke, and he had just had a checkup and had checked up clean, yet the autopsy showed rapid artery deterioration quickly after he received the covid vaccine. That is when he started researching the data. American Thought Leaders: Dr. Aseem Malhotra: From Vaccine Pusher to Vaccine Debunker—How I Changed My Mind About the COVID-19 Jab on Apple Podcasts
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I am thinking that Dr. Malone and Dr. Malhotra, who both work in the field, and have studied the reports out of Pfizer, know a lot more about the subject than you. Keep in mind that in the US, the funding for the FDA and scientific research is primarily based on pharmaceutical industry funding, which is 65% funding for FDA in the US, and 78% for the UK similar institution. Keep in mind, that Dr. Malone had 17,000 signatures of other physicians requesting the stopping of the vaccine. Maybe instead of blindly following an industry, whose fiduciary duty is to make money for their investors, versus keeping the population healthy, you should read the report yourself, or actually watch the interview with Dr. Malone, who summarizes the data. Dr. Robert Malone joins 'Tucker Carlson Today' on Fox Nation | Fox News Video Suppressing of information is only going to get more people killed. I don't mean that people don't have the right to choose lousy politicians, such as Biden and Harris, which should be obvious except to the blind, and make poor uniformed choices, but they will have to live with the consequences, which could affect people around me. Dr. Malhotra suggested that his doctor father, who was in excellent health, take the vaccine, and the father quickly died of a heart stroke, and he had just had a checkup and had checked up clean, yet the autopsy showed rapid artery deterioration quickly after he received the covid vaccine. That is when he started researching the data. American Thought Leaders: Dr. Aseem Malhotra: From Vaccine Pusher to Vaccine Debunker—How I Changed My Mind About the COVID-19 Jab on Apple Podcasts


Neither of those two work in the field. Malone did, but that was quite a while ago. Malhortra is just a cardiologist. His opinion means no more than mine since he cannot support his claims at all. In fact since I can find actual scientific articles that support me, my opinion probably is worth more than his. Malone has been thoroughly discredited too. Do you have anything of substance?

Of course you do not. All that you can rustle up are science deniers.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
The "new covenant" of Jeremiah 31:32-33, is that "I will put My law within them". It is not that I will make My law "obsolete" or nail it to a cross. As for who "My servant" is, well Ezekiel 34:23 and Ezekiel 37:24 makes that clear, that the shepherd, who will be king/prince, and "shepherd over My flock" is David. As for the timing, that will be when Ephraim and Judah "acknowledge their guilt" (Hosea 5:15 -6:2), which will be "after two days" (2000 years), on the 3rd day, when "He will heal us". As for the Gentile church, the church of the false prophet Paul, well that church is shown to be as the "adulterous woman" (Hosea 3), who Hosea paid with the equivalence of 30 shekels of silver, and that she would stay for "many days", until the "sons of Israel" "return".
The follow-up question is, How is the law written on the heart?

You appear to have assumed that writing the law on the heart is exactly the same as writing the law on a man's memory. But such an interpretation fails to deal with the fundamental issue of sin.

There are many people with good memories, capable of learning 613 laws, and reciting them without error. Is this what 'written on the heart' means? I don't think so! In fact, it's an absurd idea, because just having laws in the memory does not ensure their practice. Hypocrites abound, do they not?

The real 'writing of the law on the heart' is not about the letter of the law, but about the Spirit. This is exactly what Jesus emphasised when speaking to his fellow Jews. Why else would he have concluded that the law could be summed up as 'loving God and your neighbour'?

The real issue is about resolving sin. When this is resolved, then it is possible to be 'born again' of the Spirit of God. But how can one hope to have one's sins forgiven if one rejects the 'Lamb of God'?
 
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2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Neither of those two work in the field. Malone did, but that was quite a while ago. Malhortra is just a cardiologist. His opinion means no more than mine since he cannot support his claims at all. In fact since I can find actual scientific articles that support me, my opinion probably is worth more than his. Malone has been thoroughly discredited too. Do you have anything of substance?

Of course you do not. All that you can rustle up are science deniers.

Since you didn't listen to Dr. Malhotra, or Dr Malone, how would you know? They read the reports, you didn't, and papers paid for by the pharmaceutical industries, which are responsible only to their stockholders, is less than an unbiased point of view. If the vaccine is so safe, why hasn't the FDA approved it? The FDA just put out a report stating a possible connection with the vaccine and palsy. The Pfizer initial report listed one "adverse effect" for every 800 jabs. Go ahead and spread the Progressive elite media propaganda which is being shown by emails to have been pushed by the present administration, in the form of subverting free speech. Listen, people can listen to this administration and its followers, and its media, or they can look at the health of the people they know, following them getting the vaccine. The meta statistics show that the people that didn't get the vaccine, such as those in Africa, did better than those in the west who did receive the vaccine, in spite of the supposed negative role their race played in the west. No, you can beat your dead horse, but it isn't going to make it over the finish line. Keep your "faith" in your experts, but I am thinking they have either headed for the door, such as with Fauci, or are looking for a rock to hide under.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I am thinking that you don't even have a clue as to what the WEF represents, so I will give you a link to a good socialist/communist main point of their program.
you will own nothing and be happy wef - Search Videos (bing.com)

In brief, WEF is an organization which supports the green agenda, central population control, eugenics, zero freedoms. As group of world leaders, which can trace its movement into the past, but with respect to the US, comes most recently out of Standard oil's monopolist JD Rockefeller, who went into the patent medicine business, which became the huge Pharmaceutical empire, which pulls the strings in Congress through the largest segment of contributed money, who support 65% of FDA funding in the US, and an equivalent type of funding in the UK at the rate of 78% of the funding of their clone of our FDA. It was David Rockefeller who financed the "Club of Rome" which mirrors the WEF, whose policies of selective chose, which was called eugenics, practiced through such organizations as Planned Parenthood founders, they can get rid of the Jews, the disabled, and whomever they pleased, as was well carried out by Hitler's 3rd Reich (3rd Roman empire). Bill Gates who invests in poison companies such as Coke a Cola, high processed food companies, and the pharmaceutical companies, who now supports WHO and WEF in place of David Rockefeller. Their aim is to reduce world population, of which plagues and starvation have worked in the past, and in the case of China, a fellow socialist state, with their one child policy, which is going to cause that nation to come crashing down. As for current information on China, I would suggest that you listen to the Chinese statistician who now lives in the US via her podcast (1) Lei's Real Talk - YouTube Facts often undermine "naive" positions.

You are the naif not me.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Since you didn't listen to Dr. Malhotra, or Dr Malone, how would you know? They read the reports, you didn't, and papers paid for by the pharmaceutical industries, which are responsible only to their stockholders, is less than an unbiased point of view. If the vaccine is so safe, why hasn't the FDA approved it? The FDA just put out a report stating a possible connection with the vaccine and palsy. The Pfizer initial report listed one "adverse effect" for every 800 jabs. Go ahead and spread the Progressive elite media propaganda which is being shown by emails to have been pushed by the present administration, in the form of subverting free speech. Listen, people can listen to this administration and its followers, and its media, or they can look at the health of the people they know, following them getting the vaccine. The meta statistics show that the people that didn't get the vaccine, such as those in Africa, did better than those in the west who did receive the vaccine, in spite of the supposed negative role their race played in the west. No, you can beat your dead horse, but it isn't going to make it over the finish line. Keep your "faith" in your experts, but I am thinking they have either headed for the door, such as with Fauci, or are looking for a rock to hide under.
What makes you think that I have not listened to such quacks?

The problem is that you do not know how to properly support your claims. You do not even know what it means when an "adverse effect" is reported. If you did you would say ""One out of one hundred, that sounds as if there were no adverse claims". Let me explain this to you. If you have a large group of people. Let's day 80,000 . Within a certain amount of time do you think that something of a medical origin might occur to ten of them? For example out of a population of 80,000 and a month it would not be unreasonable for a one or two of them to have a strong allergic reaction to something. One or two might have a heart attack. Or a case of the runs. There are things that are going to go wrong with a large number of people with or without a vaccine.

As to your purported study from Africa if it is a proper peer reviewed study I will gladly look at it. If it is just a "study" by hacks you still have nothing.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
The follow-up question is, How is the law written on the heart?

You appear to have assumed that writing the law on the heart is exactly the same as writing the law on a man's memory. But such an interpretation fails to deal with the fundamental issue of sin.

There are many people with good memories, capable of learning 613 laws, and reciting them without error. Is this what 'written on the heart' means? I don't think so! In fact, it's an absurd idea, because just having laws in the memory does not ensure their practice. Hypocrites abound, do they not?

The real 'writing of the law on the heart' is not about the letter of the law, but about the Spirit. This is exactly what Jesus emphasised when speaking to his fellow Jews. Why else would he have concluded that the law could be summed up as 'loving God and your neighbour'?

The real issue is about resolving sin. When this is resolved, then it is possible to be 'born again' of the Spirit of God. But how can one hope to have one's sins forgiven if one rejects the 'Lamb of God'?

There is no resolution of sin. The transgression of the law is sin, and "everyone will die for their own iniquities" (Jeremiah 31:30), which is to say everyone will die, including yourself, despite what the false prophet Paul might have said. As stated in Jeremiah 31:29, everyone will suffer for their own sins, and not the sins of their fathers. As for after the "day of the LORD" the nations/Gentiles will have free will to sin, as in not obeying the commandments of God, but if they don't come to Jerusalem as commanded, once a year, they will have no rain, a general consequence being starvation. The difference between the Jew and the Gentiles, is that the nations/Gentiles will in the "day of distress" (day of the LORD) will confess, "our fathers have inherited nothing but falsehood" (Jeremiah 16:19). The difference is that anyone dying before 100 years of age, will be considered "accursed" (Isaiah 65:20). As for what Yeshua said, to enter into the kingdom of heaven, one must be more righteous than the Pharisees (Matthew 5:20), and then listed how much better one must be, such as one could not even look at a woman with lust in their eyes (Matthew 5:28) otherwise it is better to pluck out that eye. No, you have apparently pretty much missed the mark. And Yeshua listed the Commandments you must keep to "enter into life" (Matthew 19:16-19) and went on to say they weren't that they weren't "burdensome". Although if one has a heart of stone, that might be a problem.

Matthew 15:3 - But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
You are the naif not me.

Keep thinking that if it makes you feel better. Keep in mind, that I might not share my meal worms with you, even though I might let you have some of the bugs that WEF hands out. On the other hand, I could feed the chickens with any meal worms or bugs you don't want.
 
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2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
What makes you think that I have not listened to such quacks?

The problem is that you do not know how to properly support your claims. You do not even know what it means when an "adverse effect" is reported. If you did you would say ""One out of one hundred, that sounds as if there were no adverse claims". Let me explain this to you. If you have a large group of people. Let's day 80,000 . Within a certain amount of time do you think that something of a medical origin might occur to ten of them? For example out of a population of 80,000 and a month it would not be unreasonable for a one or two of them to have a strong allergic reaction to something. One or two might have a heart attack. Or a case of the runs. There are things that are going to go wrong with a large number of people with or without a vaccine.

As to your purported study from Africa if it is a proper peer reviewed study I will gladly look at it. If it is just a "study" by hacks you still have nothing.

The last two times the government shut down a vaccine program was when there were 1 in 10,000 adverse effects, and the time before 1 in 100,000 adverse effects. According to Pfizers own study, there were 1 in 800 adverse effects which is much more than 1 or 2 in 80,000. I think you are grabbing for straws. You can call better men than yourself "quacks", but no one is going to heed your howling. There are more than 1 or two very young healthy people dying of strokes. Reports from autopsies of people dying of heart attack or stroke are showing a large number of people having veins full of long strands of clotting. Embalmers Find Veins and Arteries Filled With Rubbery Clots – The Burning Platform I mean, they don't get extra pay for saying people die of covid, as with the medical profession who get a bonus payment if their patients died of covid. It doesn't take a peer review of people paid by the pharmaceutical industry to count the rate of deaths in Africa versus the death rates of the west. Why Has Africa Suffered Fewer COVID-19 Deaths than Predicted? (northeastern.edu)

Not only has Africa utilized unrecognized strengths to help fend off COVID-19, says Wamai, but it also offers clues that can be applied against future pandemics. Africa represents 12.5 percent of the global population, but it accounted for just 4 percent of the 3.4 million deaths that had been reported around the world as of May 18.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The last two times the government shut down a vaccine program was when there were 1 in 10,000 adverse effects, and the time before 1 in 100,000 adverse effects. According to Pfizers own study, there were 1 in 800 adverse effects which is much more than 1 or 2 in 80,000. I think you are grabbing for straws. You can call better men than yourself "quacks", but no one is going to heed your howling. There are more than 1 or two very young healthy people dying of strokes. Reports from autopsies of people dying of heart attack or stroke are showing a large number of people having veins full of long strands of clotting. Embalmers Find Veins and Arteries Filled With Rubbery Clots – The Burning Platform I mean, they don't get extra pay for saying people die of covid, as with the medical profession who get a bonus payment if their patients died of covid. It doesn't take a peer review of people paid by the pharmaceutical industry to count the rate of deaths in Africa versus the death rates of the west. Why Has Africa Suffered Fewer COVID-19 Deaths than Predicted? (northeastern.edu)

Not only has Africa utilized unrecognized strengths to help fend off COVID-19, says Wamai, but it also offers clues that can be applied against future pandemics. Africa represents 12.5 percent of the global population, but it accounted for just 4 percent of the 3.4 million deaths that had been reported around the world as of May 18.
I am sorry, just because you have no clue as to what you are talking about is no excuse to be rude.

You need to find reliable sources, not kook sources if you want to gain any traction. Your article about Africa does not appear to support you. It only explains why the deaths were lower in Africa. One of the reasons is that Africa is a huge continent, and yet still has a rather small population. Low population density has a lot to do with how fast the virus can spread. You only quoted a small part of that article. You missed this:

"Wamai acknowledges that cases have been undercounted in Africa, where fewer tests for SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19, have been conducted than on any continent other than Antarctica. There is a need for more hospitals in Africa, he says."

And this:

"Africa also features the youngest population among global regions, with a median age of 19.7 years that is roughly half as young as that of the United States (38.5) and the United Kingdom (40.5), which have been hit hard by the pandemic. And people in Africa suffer a relatively low burden of noncommunicable diseases, such as cardiovascular disease, respiratory disease, and cancer, which increase the risk of dying from COVID-19."

The disease affects elderly far stronger than it affects young people so the high percentage of young people in Africa, also explains why there were fewer deaths there.

And there is even this:

"Wamai also cites research showing that exposure of people in Africa to the Bacillus Calmette-Guérin vaccination, which is administered against tuberculosis, could make them less vulnerable to COVID-19."

There were quite a few factors that lowered their death rate. None of them had anything to do with not being vaccinated.


In other words you posted one article from a garbage site and another that does not support you.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
There is no resolution of sin. The transgression of the law is sin, and "everyone will die for their own iniquities" (Jeremiah 31:30), which is to say everyone will die, including yourself, despite what the false prophet Paul might have said. As stated in Jeremiah 31:29, everyone will suffer for their own sins, and not the sins of their fathers. As for after the "day of the LORD" the nations/Gentiles will have free will to sin, as in not obeying the commandments of God, but if they don't come to Jerusalem as commanded, once a year, they will have no rain, a general consequence being starvation. The difference between the Jew and the Gentiles, is that the nations/Gentiles will in the "day of distress" (day of the LORD) will confess, "our fathers have inherited nothing but falsehood" (Jeremiah 16:19). The difference is that anyone dying before 100 years of age, will be considered "accursed" (Isaiah 65:20). As for what Yeshua said, to enter into the kingdom of heaven, one must be more righteous than the Pharisees (Matthew 5:20), and then listed how much better one must be, such as one could not even look at a woman with lust in their eyes (Matthew 5:28) otherwise it is better to pluck out that eye. No, you have apparently pretty much missed the mark. And Yeshua listed the Commandments you must keep to "enter into life" (Matthew 19:16-19) and went on to say they weren't that they weren't "burdensome". Although if one has a heart of stone, that might be a problem.

Matthew 15:3 - But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition
You're quite right to say that the transgression of the law is sin. And can you tell me who is without sin?
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
I am sorry, just because you have no clue as to what you are talking about is no excuse to be rude.

You need to find reliable sources, not kook sources if you want to gain any traction. Your article about Africa does not appear to support you. It only explains why the deaths were lower in Africa. One of the reasons is that Africa is a huge continent, and yet still has a rather small population. Low population density has a lot to do with how fast the virus can spread. You only quoted a small part of that article. You missed this:

"Wamai acknowledges that cases have been undercounted in Africa, where fewer tests for SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19, have been conducted than on any continent other than Antarctica. There is a need for more hospitals in Africa, he says."

And this:

"Africa also features the youngest population among global regions, with a median age of 19.7 years that is roughly half as young as that of the United States (38.5) and the United Kingdom (40.5), which have been hit hard by the pandemic. And people in Africa suffer a relatively low burden of noncommunicable diseases, such as cardiovascular disease, respiratory disease, and cancer, which increase the risk of dying from COVID-19."

The disease affects elderly far stronger than it affects young people so the high percentage of young people in Africa, also explains why there were fewer deaths there.

And there is even this:

"Wamai also cites research showing that exposure of people in Africa to the Bacillus Calmette-Guérin vaccination, which is administered against tuberculosis, could make them less vulnerable to COVID-19."

There were quite a few factors that lowered their death rate. None of them had anything to do with not being vaccinated.


In other words you posted one article from a garbage site and another that does not support you.

As blacks are supposedly more suspectable to covid than other races in the U.S., around 23 to 13, and Haiti, a small country with a dense population, had 22 per million deaths versus the highly vaccinated US with a less dense population, had a death rate of 1800 per million which is around 90 times less, kind of negates your population density theory. I kind of doubt if large swaths of Africa had been inoculated with a tuberculosis vaccine. If that were the case, then the US should stop using covid vaccine, and start using tuberculosis vaccine. What is known is that deaths by covid have been overcounted in the US due to the scale in payment for covid death treatment was higher than for having one's head cut off in a motorcycle accident while positive testing for covid being called death by covid instead of by accident. While the deaths for the morbid obese was high in the US, because of the high number of obese, by reason of medical advice with respect to diet over the years, and the use of high processed foods, such as corn syrup and vegetable oils, urged by commercial enterprises, and originally backed by doctors. That obese status hasn't reached over 50% versus the 90 fold increase in deaths versus Haiti, or the 3-fold increase versus Africa. As for the age range of 20 versus 40 years old, that age range is not within the health risk range, which is for the very old, and the ratio of old to young in the US is in favor of the young at this time. While not everyone is obese or overweight in Africa, it is a sign of being rich, and being overweight and getting diabetes is a large problem in Africa, mostly because they drink, Coca Cola products, from the company which Bill Gates, a supporter of WHO, which supported Wuhan research, who owns a large share of stocks of Coca Cola Consolidated,
COVID-19 Death Rates Are Impressively Low In Haiti : Goats and Soda : NPR
Obesity in Africa – DW – 09/12/2019

There is a silent epidemic sweeping through Africa and it’s worse than HIV. Out of the 20 fastest rising countries with obesity, nearly half of them are in Africa.
The health burden on the continent is rising.Black Americans make up 13% of the US population. They make up 23% of COVID-19 deaths. - USAFacts

You throwing mud at the wall does not mean it will stick. I am sure the chickens will come home to roost, but in the meantime, do as you will.
 
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2ndpillar

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You're quite right to say that the transgression of the law is sin. And can you tell me who is without sin?

Apparently, no one is without sin, and they will all die, for the result of sin is death. (Jeremiah 31:30). Apparently, you have not asked the right question. (Proverbs 14:12) & (Matthew 7:13-14)
James 1:15
Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death

Proverbs 14:12
There is a way which seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death.
 
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