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Bye, Bye Theresa

Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
Ester talks the talk but is it too late to save the Tories?


If they are taking Boris to court for lying, will they be taking Theresa straight to prison because she has no defence.

It will be one law for a Leaver and another for a Remainer. Yet another example of the UK’s dualistic society.
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Is this the same Ester who has said that Muslims can take their kids out of sex education lessons?
 
exchemist

exchemist

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
Ester talks the talk but is it too late to save the Tories?


If they are taking Boris to court for lying, will they be taking Theresa straight to prison because she has no defence.

It will be one law for a Leaver and another for a Remainer. Yet another example of the UK’s dualistic society.
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Absurdly hysterical. Nobody goes "straight to prison" in the UK.

There is in English law an offence called misconduct in public office, which is what Bozo is being prosecuted for, on the basis that he lied repeatedly to the public about the supposed benefits of leaving the EU during the referendum campaign. What charge are you imagining could be brought against May and why?

(P.S. Esther McVey will get about 6 votes from Tory MPs and will be one of the first to be eliminated from the leadership contest.)
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
exchemist said:
Absurdly hysterical. Nobody goes "straight to prison" in the UK.

There is in English law an offence called misconduct in public office, which is what Bozo is being prosecuted for, on the basis that he lied repeatedly to the public about the supposed benefits of leaving the EU during the referendum campaign. What charge are you imagining could be brought against May and why?

(P.S. Esther McVey will get about 6 votes from Tory MPs and will be one of the first to be eliminated from the leadership contest.)
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Speaking to TalkRADIO, the former Conservative leader claimed it was "all about the leadership election" if former Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson was being taken to court for claims he lied by saying the UK gave the EU £350million a week during his pro-Brexit campaign. Mr Duncan-Smith branded the district judge decision "ludicrous" and explained it was a debatable matter far from being taken to court. He said: “It’s ludicrous in practical terms and it’s also bizarre in the sense of bringing the courts into what is essentially a debating point.

IDS challenges courts to investigate him on £350m Brexit bus promise – 'What about me?'

Marcus Ball, 29, who is bringing a case for alleged misconduct in a public office, spent the money self-defence classes, a luxury flat and branded cupcakes.

Allies of the Tory leadership frontrunner have attacked the court's decision to summons him over the allegations following the private prosecution by Mr Ball.

A source close to the ex-foreign secretary said the prosecution was 'nothing less than a politically motivated attempt to reverse Brexit and crush the will of the people'.

'The claimant has openly admitted that his plan is to overturn the referendum via a legal challenge and he clearly intends to try and undermine the one man who can truly deliver Brexit.

Remainer prosecuting Boris Johnson 'spent £50,000 of donations' | Daily Mail Online
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
Speaking to TalkRADIO, the former Conservative leader claimed it was "all about the leadership election" if former Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson was being taken to court for claims he lied by saying the UK gave the EU £350million a week during his pro-Brexit campaign. Mr Duncan-Smith branded the district judge decision "ludicrous" and explained it was a debatable matter far from being taken to court. He said: “It’s ludicrous in practical terms and it’s also bizarre in the sense of bringing the courts into what is essentially a debating point.

IDS challenges courts to investigate him on £350m Brexit bus promise – 'What about me?'

Marcus Ball, 29, who is bringing a case for alleged misconduct in a public office, spent the money self-defence classes, a luxury flat and branded cupcakes.

Allies of the Tory leadership frontrunner have attacked the court's decision to summons him over the allegations following the private prosecution by Mr Ball.

A source close to the ex-foreign secretary said the prosecution was 'nothing less than a politically motivated attempt to reverse Brexit and crush the will of the people'.

'The claimant has openly admitted that his plan is to overturn the referendum via a legal challenge and he clearly intends to try and undermine the one man who can truly deliver Brexit.

Remainer prosecuting Boris Johnson 'spent £50,000 of donations' | Daily Mail Online
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What a surprise the Right Wing press are rallying round their saviour and trying to throw muck at the accuser.
Anyone would think that Boris was 'clean' - he blew £53m on his Garden Bridge folly ...
Failed Garden Bridge project cost £53m
 
exchemist

exchemist

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
Speaking to TalkRADIO, the former Conservative leader claimed it was "all about the leadership election" if former Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson was being taken to court for claims he lied by saying the UK gave the EU £350million a week during his pro-Brexit campaign. Mr Duncan-Smith branded the district judge decision "ludicrous" and explained it was a debatable matter far from being taken to court. He said: “It’s ludicrous in practical terms and it’s also bizarre in the sense of bringing the courts into what is essentially a debating point.

IDS challenges courts to investigate him on £350m Brexit bus promise – 'What about me?'

Marcus Ball, 29, who is bringing a case for alleged misconduct in a public office, spent the money self-defence classes, a luxury flat and branded cupcakes.

Allies of the Tory leadership frontrunner have attacked the court's decision to summons him over the allegations following the private prosecution by Mr Ball.

A source close to the ex-foreign secretary said the prosecution was 'nothing less than a politically motivated attempt to reverse Brexit and crush the will of the people'.

'The claimant has openly admitted that his plan is to overturn the referendum via a legal challenge and he clearly intends to try and undermine the one man who can truly deliver Brexit.

Remainer prosecuting Boris Johnson 'spent £50,000 of donations' | Daily Mail Online
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Oddly enough :D , I don't seem to see any answer to the question I asked you here.

Perhaps you might ask an authority of the sort you favour to help you. Someone who, ooh, let's see, runs a tanning salon in Luton, perhaps.
 
exchemist

exchemist

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
That judge has been dragged into politics by a Remainer. That should tell you something.
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Good so you agree the court has not been politicised. Anyone can bring an action: it is the job of the court to rule on it. In this case I think the action may well be dismissed. As Bozo was a backbencher, I have some trouble seeing what "public office" he is really deemed to have held at the time.

I tend to agree that it seems a bit chilling to democracy if mere MPs, who could be simple scum-of-the-earth chaps that run tanning salons or something, are treated as if they are public officials with responsibilities to the public.
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
It tells me that in the civil courts the individual can attempt to call the privileged to justice
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When will the Remoaners get over their sour grapes?


Brexiteer Mr Rees-Mogg, who is supporting Mr Johnson's leadership campaign, blasted the decision to prosecute him.

The European Research Group chairman said: 'It is an attack on free speech and the courts are ill advised to be used as the tools of political activists.'

He added: 'It is trying to use the courts to achieve a political end which, I think, is neither right or proper.

'This is involving the courts in something that is not their area.

'We need courts and politicians to respect each other, and it is an abuse of process, and a troubling one.

'It has been brought by people who are resentful of the referendum result.'

Leadership candidate Matt Hancock said: 'However people voted in the Referendum, we shouldn't have courts judging on political debates. Let's have robust debate to test arguments - and keep courts out of politics.'

Tory Brexiteer David TC Davies said it was 'deeply sinister' that Brexiteers were being dragged to court, adding: 'EU supporters falsely claimed that a Leave vote would collapse the economy. No action (is) being taken against them.'

Boris Johnson fires back at judge's decision to send him to court | Daily Mail Online
 
exchemist

exchemist

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
When will the Remoaners get over their sour grapes?


Brexiteer Mr Rees-Mogg, who is supporting Mr Johnson's leadership campaign, blasted the decision to prosecute him.

The European Research Group chairman said: 'It is an attack on free speech and the courts are ill advised to be used as the tools of political activists.'

He added: 'It is trying to use the courts to achieve a political end which, I think, is neither right or proper.

'This is involving the courts in something that is not their area.

'We need courts and politicians to respect each other, and it is an abuse of process, and a troubling one.

'It has been brought by people who are resentful of the referendum result.'

Leadership candidate Matt Hancock said: 'However people voted in the Referendum, we shouldn't have courts judging on political debates. Let's have robust debate to test arguments - and keep courts out of politics.'

Tory Brexiteer David TC Davies said it was 'deeply sinister' that Brexiteers were being dragged to court, adding: 'EU supporters falsely claimed that a Leave vote would collapse the economy. No action (is) being taken against them.'

Boris Johnson fires back at judge's decision to send him to court | Daily Mail Online
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Nobody is above the law. But thankfully the law is enforced properly by our judges. I find it amusing that the Moggatollah is arguing free speech must include the freedom to lie to voters in a campaign, but there we are. As I observed earlier, Bozo could I think argue he was not in public office at the time.

This Davis bloke is a jerk. Nobody claimed leaving would "collapse" the economy. What was said was it would cause great damage. In fact the Bank of England did a lot in the immediate aftermath to shore up the economy to prevent the shock being too bad and it worked to large degree. However the economy is demonstrably suffering, as events at Honda, Nissan British Steel and daily reports in the Financial Times already show. It is not often the CBI and the TUC agree, but they do on Brexit.

If we leave (and do not forget we have not left yet) the damage will take place over a period of 5-10 years, as auto companies and others put their new investment elsewhere and let their UK assets atrophy.
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
When will the Remoaners get over their sour grapes?


Brexiteer Mr Rees-Mogg, who is supporting Mr Johnson's leadership campaign, blasted the decision to prosecute him.

The European Research Group chairman said: 'It is an attack on free speech and the courts are ill advised to be used as the tools of political activists.'

He added: 'It is trying to use the courts to achieve a political end which, I think, is neither right or proper.

'This is involving the courts in something that is not their area.

'We need courts and politicians to respect each other, and it is an abuse of process, and a troubling one.

'It has been brought by people who are resentful of the referendum result.'

Leadership candidate Matt Hancock said: 'However people voted in the Referendum, we shouldn't have courts judging on political debates. Let's have robust debate to test arguments - and keep courts out of politics.'

Tory Brexiteer David TC Davies said it was 'deeply sinister' that Brexiteers were being dragged to court, adding: 'EU supporters falsely claimed that a Leave vote would collapse the economy. No action (is) being taken against them.'

Boris Johnson fires back at judge's decision to send him to court | Daily Mail Online
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Surprise, surprise; nutcase far right politician supports nutcase far right politician.

So what they are basically saying is, "It is ok to make promises that you have no intention of keeping because I'm a politician." and you keep talking about honesty.
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
Surprise, surprise; nutcase far right politician supports nutcase far right politician.

So what they are basically saying is, "It is ok to make promises that you have no intention of keeping because I'm a politician." and you keep talking about honesty.
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Right wing politicians are the only ones with a sense of sanity.

The Remoaners are going to end up like Hillary Clinton.

 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
It is called accountability.
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It is called profitability for the lawyers.

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