Bye, Bye Theresa

[exchemist]

Maybe that judge will be getting a brown envelope from these fat cat lawyers for services rendered.

That is a silly remark. There is no evidence whatsoever that UK judges are corrupt.

 

[Notanumber]

That is a silly remark. There is no evidence whatsoever that UK judges are corrupt.

I would not put anything past our Remainer establishment having witnessed their shenanigans since our democratic vote to leave the EU was trashed.

If they want the respect of the population, they are going to have to start earning it instead of trying to turn the UK into a banana republic.

Jacob has now realised that. What a great shame it is that we cannot say the same about many of the others.

 

[Altfish]

I would not put anything past our Remainer establishment having witnessed their shenanigans since our democratic vote to leave the EU was trashed.

If they want the respect of the population, they are going to have to start earning it instead of trying to turn the UK into a banana republic.

Jacob has now realised that. What a great shame it is that we cannot say the same about many of the others.

Is that JRM the best selling author ...

Jacob Rees-Mogg's Victorians has sold 734 copies – will publishers take note?

Mr 2% could sell more than that.

 

[exchemist]

I would not put anything past our Remainer establishment having witnessed their shenanigans since our democratic vote to leave the EU was trashed.

If they want the respect of the population, they are going to have to start earning it instead of trying to turn the UK into a banana republic.

Jacob has now realised that. What a great shame it is that we cannot say the same about many of the others.

You have no evidence of any "shenanigans" by the judges.

 

[exchemist]

Is that JRM the best selling author ...

Jacob Rees-Mogg's Victorians has sold 734 copies – will publishers take note?

Mr 2% could sell more than that.

Especially if it was on his special subject: artificial tans.

I wonder if Trump might make a visit to Luton, to get own tan topped up by someone with politics he finds congenial.

 

[Notanumber]

You have no evidence of any "shenanigans" by the judges.

Jacob had callers that wanted to discuss that topic but they were unable to do so for legal reasons.

He said he had other things he wanted to say but was informed by the LBC that he could not discuss those either. That is free speech for you in the UK.

 

[Notanumber]

Is that JRM the best selling author ...

Jacob Rees-Mogg's Victorians has sold 734 copies – will publishers take note?

Mr 2% could sell more than that.

Jacob commented about his book, which is loathed by the Guardian. Who would have thought!

Apparently, Ian Dale has done a very good podcast about it.

 

[exchemist]

Jacob had callers that wanted to discuss that topic but they were unable to do so for legal reasons.

He said he had other things he wanted to say but was informed by the LBC that he could not discuss those either. That is free speech for you in the UK.

That will be the universal sub judice rule, which has existed for centuries, for sound and impartial reasons. How is that evidence of corruption by judges?

 

[Altfish]

Jacob commented about his book, which is loathed by the Guardian. Who would have thought!

Apparently, Ian Dale has done a very good podcast about it.

How about the Tory Daily, The Telegraph ...
The Victorians by Jacob Rees-Mogg, review: this clichéd, lazy history often reads like it was written by a baboon

Now who would have thought that!

Link to Ian Dale's podcast?

 

[Notanumber]

That will be the universal sub judice rule, which has existed for centuries, for sound and impartial reasons. How is that evidence of corruption by judges?

Plenty will be making big money out of it and where there is big money there tends to be corruption.

Look what happened to Shami when she produced that Labour whitewash.

Shami Chakrabarti’s fall from grace: how a liberal hero lost her reputation

 

[Notanumber]

How about the Tory Daily, The Telegraph ...
The Victorians by Jacob Rees-Mogg, review: this clichéd, lazy history often reads like it was written by a baboon

Now who would have thought that!

Link to Ian Dale's podcast?

If you are interested, I am sure it is not beyond your capabilities to find it.

BTW, were you contemplating buying his book before you read these reviews?

 

[Altfish]

If you are interested, I am sure it is not beyond your capabilities to find it.

BTW, were you contemplating buying his book before you read these reviews?

So, there is no link.

Certainly not but I'd have though Brexiteers would want to support a fellow Victorian intent on returning this country to that era with Poor Houses, No votes for Women, Capital Punishment, etc., etc.

 

[exchemist]

Plenty will be making big money out of it and where there is big money there tends to be corruption.

Look what happened to Shami when she produced that Labour whitewash.

Shami Chakrabarti’s fall from grace: how a liberal hero lost her reputation

Don't talk nonsense. How is anyone going to make "big money" out of this piffling case involving Bozo?

And how is the mere fact that money is earned by lawyers in the case evidence of corruption of the judiciary?

Frankly I'm beginning to wonder if you run a tanning salon yourself.

 

[Notanumber]

So, there is no link.

Certainly not but I'd have though Brexiteers would want to support a fellow Victorian intent on returning this country to that era with Poor Houses, No votes for Women, Capital Punishment, etc., etc.

If you want to avoid all that, Tommy Robinson is your man.

 

[exchemist]

If you want to avoid all that, Tommy Robinson is your man.

Yeah, free tanning for all! The rousing manifesto of Steve Yobbinson.

 

[Altfish]

Yeah, free tanning for all! The rousing manifesto of Steve Yobbinson.

Free tanning for the 2%

 

[Notanumber]

Don't talk nonsense. How is anyone going to make "big money" out of this piffling case involving Bozo?

And how is the mere fact that money is earned by lawyers in the case evidence of corruption of the judiciary?

Frankly I'm beginning to wonder if you run a tanning salon yourself.

How much money has the troublemaker raised by crowd funding. Apparently, he has used some of it for personal gain but there is plenty left for the lawyers.

Was Shami a lawyer?

 

[Altfish]

How much money has the troublemaker raised by crowd funding. Apparently, he has used some of it for personal gain but there is plenty left for the lawyers.

Less than Boris earns for his weekly propaganda article in the Torygraph

 

[LuisDantas]

I would not put anything past our Remainer establishment having witnessed their shenanigans since our democratic vote to leave the EU was trashed.

You better be with your tongue glued to your cheek while you say that.

Or better yet, just apologize immediately, seeing how dishonest the leading Leavers are.

 

[Notanumber]

You better be with your tongue glued to your cheek while you say that.

Or better yet, just apologize immediately, seeing how dishonest the leading Leavers are.

Apologize to whom?

• Payment to Brussels, net of rebate and money returned to the UK: £9.4 billion a year, or £181 million a week.
• Payment to Brussels, net of rebate: £13.9 billion a year, or £267 million a week.
• Gross payment to Brussels: £18.9 billion a year, or £363 million a week.

As far as the average voter is concerned, £181 million and £350 million both sound like a lot of money. Either would get the point across, with the same force. So why did Boris use the gross figure, when the convention is to use the net figure? Simple: it drives the other side quite loopy. They threaten to sue. And as they explode with anger, the discussion turns to how much of British money is spent to the EU – a conversation subject that suits Brexiteers. This tactic worked so effectively in the referendum because their opponents rose to the bait every time.

Was the £350m figure misleading? Yes, if it was spoken of as the net figure. Would the lower figure have been fairer, and got the point across just as well? Of course. But it would not have been as effective as a campaigning tool, because it would have generated less fuss.

In elections, politicians frequently use valid-but-misleading figures, seeing if the other side will make a fuss and take the bait. It’s seen as rough and tumble of democracy: if one side misleads, the other side can call them liars and voters decide. In 2005, Gordon Brown falsely accused the Tories of planning to ‘cut’ £35 billion a year from services. Here’s the poster.

A young Nick Robinson was at the poster launch, for ITV. and made his name by pointing out that this is a lie (rather than an exaggeration). The Tories were planning to increase spending, just not by as much as Labour. Brown thought that, given he thought he’d outspend the Tories by £35bn, he could then say they’d cut. To compound the lie, Labour said this was “the equivalent of sacking every nurse, every teacher and every doctor’ in the country. As Robinson said: “you can’t cut money that hasn’t been spent”. But this is an election: a more competent Tory party could have exposed the lie. Interestingly, Blair used the Vote Leave logic: a row over a figure is good for hype. Blair later told Robinson that he was glad about the fuss, as it kept attention on the subject of Tory cuts.